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Longitudinal correlations from fluctuating strings in Pb-Pb, p-Pb, and p-p collisions

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Pith's one-line read A semi-analytic string model with fluctuating endpoints reproduces the LHC data on rapidity spectra and two-particle correlations in Pb-Pb, p-Pb, and p-p collisions.

desk verdict A clear extension of the fluctuating-string model to LHC energies, with a genuine prediction for a11, but the uniform string-breaking kernel is assumed rather than tested, so the universality claim is conditional. read the letter →

arxiv 1909.01702 v2 pith:BXCUQSE6 submitted 2019-09-04 nucl-th

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A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.

The reading

This paper sets out to explain the long-range longitudinal correlations measured at the LHC—the tendency for particle multiplicities in different pseudorapidity bins to move together—using a minimal mechanism: each produced hadron comes from a string stretched between two endpoint partons whose positions in rapidity fluctuate from event to event. The authors show that the one-particle rapidity spectra of Pb-Pb and p-Pb collisions fix the emission profile of these strings, and that this profile in turn delimits the possible distributions of the string endpoints. When the endpoints are assumed to occupy disjoint rapidity ranges, the predicted strength of the two-particle correlations, quantified by the Legendre coefficient $a_{11}$, matches the measured values in Pb-Pb, p-Pb, and p-p collisions. If correct, this means the dominant source of these correlations is a universal string-breaking mechanism with fluctuating endpoints, and no separate explanation such as nuclear shadowing or baryon stopping is required.

What carries the argument

The central mechanism is the longitudinally extended string with two fluctuating endpoints, one attached to each wounded constituent. For a string breaking at spatial rapidity $y$, the emission is assumed uniform between endpoints $y_1$ and $y_2$, giving the one-body profile $f(y)=\omega\bigl(\tfrac12 - 2[G_1(y)-\tfrac12][G_2(y)-\tfrac12]\bigr)$. The same uniform breaking law builds the two-particle emission profile $f_2(y_1,y_2)=\omega^2\,G_1[\min(y_1,y_2)]\{1-G_2[\max(y_1,y_2)]\} + (1\leftrightarrow 2)$, from which the correlation function and its Legendre coefficients follow. The string endpoints are random, but the measured one-body spectra fix their cumulative distributions up to a two-parameter degeneracy; the two extreme solutions are the $g_1=g_2$ case and the disjoint case, and the data select the disjoint one.

What would settle it

Measure the two-particle correlation coefficient $a_{11}$ in the same systems over a substantially wider pseudorapidity window than the current $|\eta|<2.4$, or directly extract the shape of the two-particle emission profile $f_2$; a deviation from the model's prediction that grows with the rapidity span would indicate that the uniform string-breaking assumption is wrong.

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Extended reading notes

Core claim

The central claim is that a semi-analytic model in which hadrons are emitted from longitudinally extended strings pulled by wounded constituents—with the string endpoints fluctuating in rapidity according to distributions $g_1$ and $g_2$—reproduces, with 4 or 5 constituent partons per nucleon, the LHC data on rapidity spectra in Pb-Pb and p-Pb at 5.02 TeV and the measured values of the correlation coefficient $a_{11}$ for Pb-Pb, p-Pb, and p-p. The one-body emission profile $f(y)$ is related to the endpoint cumulative distributions by $f(y)=\omega\bigl(\tfrac12 - 2[G_1(y)-\tfrac12][G_2(y)-\tfrac12]\bigr)$, so the measured spectra place bounds on the endpoint distributions; the measured correlations then select the disjoint limiting case, where the left-going and right-going endpoints live on opposite sides of the profile maximum. In that case the intrinsic string-emission correlations account for about 40% of $a_{11}$ in Pb-Pb and dominate in p-Pb.

Load-bearing premise

The argument assumes that a string breaks uniformly in rapidity between its two endpoints; if the true breaking is non-uniform, the endpoint distributions extracted from the one-particle spectra and the predicted $a_{11}$ would both change, so the comparison to data would not be a clean test of the string picture.

Editorial extensions

If this is right

  • A single universal emission profile and endpoint distribution describe three different collision systems (Pb-Pb, p-Pb, p-p) with one set of parameters, so longitudinal correlations become a property of the string mechanism rather than of the specific nuclear size.
  • The extracted endpoint distributions provide definite predictions for the two-particle correlation function in pseudorapidity windows beyond the current ATLAS coverage of $|\eta|<2.4$.
  • The dominance of intrinsic string correlations in p-Pb (above 80% of $a_{11}$) means that in small systems the measured $a_{11}$ is a direct probe of the string-breaking mechanism, whereas in Pb-Pb source-number fluctuations contribute nearly as much.
  • The absence of any need for shadowing or baryon stopping in reproducing the data suggests these effects play a minor role in the longitudinal correlations at LHC energies.
  • The preference for 4 or 5 constituent partons per nucleon at LHC energies, compared with the earlier 3-constituent fit at RHIC energies, indicates an energy-dependent effective number of wounded partons.

Reading between the lines

Editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • A direct extension would be to measure $a_{11}$ over a substantially wider rapidity window; the model's specific prediction for how the coefficient scales with the rapidity span would distinguish uniform from non-uniform string breaking.
  • The same inversion of the one-body profile could be applied to three-particle or forward-multiplicity correlations, which would be more sensitive than $a_{11}$ to the shape of the string-breaking probability between endpoints.
  • The energy-dependent optimal number of constituents, if confirmed by future energy scans, would suggest that the effective partonic resolution of a nucleon grows with collision energy, a testable consequence that goes beyond the present paper's stated scope.
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Referee Report

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Summary. The paper extends a semi-analytic wounded-constituent string model from RHIC energies to LHC energies. The single-string emission profile f(η) is extracted point-by-point from a joint least-squares fit to Pb-Pb (ALICE) and p-Pb (ATLAS) pseudorapidity spectra at √sNN = 5.02 TeV, after generating wounded-parton numbers with GLISSANDO and overlaying a negative-binomial fluctuation. Passing from pseudorapidity to rapidity via an empirically estimated Jacobian, the authors assume uniform string breaking in rapidity and invert the one-body profile to obtain limiting endpoint distributions G1, G2 (the 'g1 = g2' and 'disjoint' cases). These are then used to compute two-particle correlations and the Legendre coefficient a11, which is compared with ATLAS data for Pb-Pb, p-Pb, and p-p collisions. The central claim, stated in Sec. VII, is that the model with 4 or 5 constituent partons per nucleon and disjoint endpoint distributions reasonably describes the data for all three systems.

Significance. If the central claim is correct, the paper provides a simple, almost analytic explanation of long-range longitudinal correlations at LHC energies in terms of fluctuating string endpoints, with no need for additional physics such as nuclear shadowing or baryon stopping. A genuine strength is that the two-particle correlations and a11 are not fitted to the correlation data; they are predicted from the endpoint distributions derived from the one-body spectra. The model is transparent and reproduces the order of magnitude and centrality trend of the ATLAS a11 data. However, the significance is limited by two unexamined assumptions: the uniform string-breaking kernel, which enters both the extraction of the endpoint distributions and the construction of the two-particle emission profile, and the comparison of a 5.02 TeV model with data at 2.76 TeV (Pb-Pb) and 13 TeV (p-p). The admitted large χ2 values also leave the quantitative goodness of fit unclear.

major comments (3)
  1. [Sec. IV, step 2; Eqs. (8) and (11)] The uniform string-breaking kernel s(y; y1, y2) is used twice: Eq. (8) inverts the fitted one-body profile f(y) to obtain the endpoint CDFs G1 and G2, and Eq. (11) builds the same-string two-particle emission profile with the same kernel. The predicted a11 is therefore a joint test of fluctuating endpoints together with this particular, uniform breaking law. If the true breaking rate is non-uniform (e.g., enhanced near the endpoints or peaked at the string center), both the extracted G1, G2 and the predicted a11 change, so the ATLAS comparison in Figs. 10 and 12 would not cleanly favor the disjoint endpoint scenario. The paper neither fits a shape parameter for the kernel nor checks the stability of a11 against reasonable alternative kernels. This is a load-bearing assumption for the central universality claim and should be addressed explicitly.
  2. [Secs. V and VI, Figs. 10 and 12] The model parameters (single-string profile f, negative-binomial parameter q, and the number of constituent partons) are determined at √sNN = 5.02 TeV from Pb-Pb and p-Pb spectra, but the ATLAS a11 data shown in Fig. 10 for Pb-Pb are at 2.76 TeV and those in Fig. 12 for p-p are at 13 TeV. The paper states that the energy mismatch is 'numerically not significant' without providing a quantitative argument. Since the number of constituent partons itself changes with collision energy (3 at RHIC, 4–5 at LHC), the energy dependence of the model parameters is apparently not negligible. The claimed universality across systems and energies would be much strengthened by comparing with data at matched energies or by demonstrating explicitly that the relevant predictions vary only weakly over the quoted energy range.
  3. [Sec. III, Table I and χ2 discussion] The goodness of fit is not quantitatively characterized. Table I lists the least-squares values L for the 3, 4, 5, and 6 constituent variants, but no number of fitted data points, no number of parameters per point, and no normalization are given, so the reader cannot judge whether L = 140 vs 137 is a meaningful difference. The text also concedes that χ2/d.o.f. values are 'large' and 'cannot be used as stringent measures.' This makes it difficult to assess the central claim that the model 'reasonably describes' the spectra. The authors should provide a more interpretable goodness-of-fit statistic, or at least state the number of fitted points and the typical size of experimental errors.
minor comments (4)
  1. [Footnote 1, Sec. III] The exclusion of the most central 1% p-Pb data from the fit is mentioned only in a footnote; this selection should be described and justified in the main text, because it could influence the extracted f(η) and hence the endpoint distributions.
  2. [Sec. IV, Eqs. (5)–(7)] The text says the Jacobian dη/dy is obtained from ALICE data for the 5% most central Pb-Pb collisions, but it is not stated whether this same Jacobian is applied to all systems (Pb-Pb, p-Pb, and p-p) and all centralities; the applicability of a single Jacobian to p-p and p-Pb should be clarified.
  3. [Sec. V, Eq. (11)] Equation (11) for the two-particle emission profile is taken from reference [1] without derivation; given that this is the main predictive object of the paper, a brief self-contained derivation or at least an intuitive explanation would improve readability.
  4. [Miscellaneous] Minor typographical issues: footnote 1 contains 'far of the optimal fit' (should be 'far from'); the text around Eq. (3) uses 'k(x;n,q)' with the negative-binomial notation and should clarify that x = 0 is removed.

Circularity Check

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No circularity found: the two-particle correlation predictions are not fitted inputs; they are derived from spectra-fitted profiles and compared to independent ATLAS correlation data.

full rationale

The derivation chain is self-contained and falsifiable. The one-body emission profile f(eta) is explicitly obtained by least-squares fits to ALICE and ATLAS pseudorapidity spectra via Eqs. (1)-(4), with the negative-binomial parameter q also fitted to those spectra. The string-end-point CDFs G1 and G2 are then constrained through Eq. (8), under the clearly stated assumption of a uniform string-breaking kernel. The two-particle emission profile, Eq. (11), is not fitted to the correlation data; it follows from the same kernel and the extracted endpoint distributions, and the resulting a11 coefficients are compared with external ATLAS measurements. This comparison has genuine discriminating power: the g1=g2 case overestimates a11 by roughly a factor of 4, while the disjoint case agrees with data, so the two-body observable selects between the two extreme solutions rather than being forced by the one-body fit. The p-p analysis is a genuine out-of-sample test, as it uses the profile fitted to Pb-Pb and p-Pb spectra to predict correlations in p-p collisions at a different energy. The uniform-breaking assumption is an explicit modeling choice, not an input smuggled in from the correlation data; changing the kernel would change the inversion of Eq. (8), but that is a robustness or correctness concern, not circularity. Self-citations to [1] and [2] provide the method, but the method was previously tested against independent d-Au and Au-Au data at 200 GeV, and the present paper states and uses the equations directly rather than relying on an unverified uniqueness theorem.

Assumptions & free parameters 3 free parameters · 6 assumptions · 0 invented entities

The model is deliberately phenomenological. The largest component brought in from outside is the single-string emission profile f(eta), which is fitted, not derived. The uniform-breaking and independent-endpoint assumptions are conventional but not tested here. No new particles or forces are introduced.

free parameters (3)
  • negative binomial parameter q = 0.245, 0.905, 0.785, 0.805 for 3, 4, 5, 6 constituents per nucleon
    Controls the variance of the number of strings around the wounded-parton count; chosen by minimizing the least-squares fit to the pseudorapidity spectra (Table I).
  • single-string emission profile f(eta) = pointwise profile extracted from joint fit to ALICE Pb-Pb and ATLAS p-Pb pseudorapidity spectra at 5.02 TeV
    The model does not derive the emission profile from QCD; it is adjusted to reproduce the one-body spectra, and all subsequent correlation predictions inherit it (Sec. III).
  • number of constituent partons per nucleon = 4 or 5 preferred; variants 3, 4, 5, 6 tested
    A discrete model choice governing the wounded-parton multiplicities; 4 and 5 give the lowest least-squares values, and the paper focuses on those (Table I).
assumptions (6)
  • domain assumption The single-string emission profile f(eta) is universal across collision systems and centralities at a given energy (Eq. 1).
    Stated in Sec. II; without universality the joint fit and the p-p prediction are not valid.
  • domain assumption The number of strings equals the number of wounded constituent partons from the Glauber model.
    Basis of the wounded-parton scaling law (Eq. 1), citing refs. [12,38].
  • domain assumption String breaking probability is uniform in rapidity between the string endpoints (Sec. IV, step 2).
    This uniformity lets the authors invert Eq. (8) to constrain endpoint CDFs and is the backbone of Eq. (11) for two-particle emission.
  • domain assumption The two string endpoints are statistically independent, with distributions g1 and g2.
    Needed to write the one-body and two-body emission convolutions in Eqs. (8) and (11).
  • domain assumption The rapidity-pseudorapidity conversion factorizes and is obtained from ALICE data for the 5% most central Pb-Pb collisions (Eq. 5).
    Used to convert the extracted f(eta) to f(y); assumes pion dominance and factorization of pT dependence.
  • domain assumption The two-particle emission profile from a single string has the form f2(y1,y2) = omega^2 G1[min(y1,y2)]{1-G2[max(y1,y2)]} + (1<->2), Eq. (11).
    This formula is adopted from the authors' earlier work [1] without a derivation in this paper; it directly controls the intrinsic correlation term that determines a11.

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In a framework of a semi-analytic model with longitudinally extended strings of fluctuating end-points, we demonstrate that the rapidity spectra and two-particle correlations in collisions of Pb-Pb, p-Pb, and p-p at the energies of the Large Hadron Collider can be universally reproduced. In our approach, the strings are pulled by wounded constituents appearing in the Glauber modeling at the partonic level. The obtained rapidity profile for the emission of hadrons from a string yields bounds for the distributions of the end-point fluctuations. Then, limits for the two-particle-correlations in pseudorapidity can be obtained. Our results are favorably compared to recent experimental data from the ATLAS Collaboration.

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Figure 1. FIG. 1. Model results (solid lines) and ALICE data [40] (points with bands indicating experimental errors) for the pseudorapidity [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p003_1.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 2. FIG. 2. Model results (solid lines) and ATLAS data [41] (points with bands indicating experimental errors) for the symmetric [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p004_2.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 3. FIG. 3. Same as in Fig. 2, but for the antisymmetric part of the p-Pb spectra. [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p004_3.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 4. Figure 4: FIG. 4. Emission profile in pseudorapidity, divided by its [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p005_4.png]
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Figure 5. Figure 5: FIG. 5. Symmetric (a) and antisymmetric (b) parts of the [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p005_5.png]
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Figure 6. Figure 6: FIG. 6. The Jacobian [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p006_6.png]
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Figure 7. Figure 7: The feature that can be seen when comparing [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p006_7.png]
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Figure 8. Figure 8: FIG. 8. Solutions for the cumulative distribution functions of [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p007_8.png]
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Figure 7. Figure 7: FIG. 7. Emission profiles of individual strings in rapidity for [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p007_7.png]
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Figure 9. Figure 9: c) the results for the 4 constituent model in the dis￾joint case, which is close to the 5 constituent case from panel b). To analyze CAB(y1, y2) in more quantitative detail, we also study its projections on the Legendre polyno￾mials [44] anm = R Y −Y dy1 R Y −Y dy2C(y1…
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Figure 10. Figure 10: FIG. 10. Model results for the coefficients [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p009_10.png]
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Figure 12. Figure 12: FIG. 12. The Legendre coefficient [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p010_12.png]

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