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On blocking Dispersion of Matter by Energy conservation

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Pith's one-line read Nonlinear terms that block spatial wavefunction dispersion by energy conservation satisfy the derived commutation relations, but their generalization to non-pure spin models does not.

desk verdict This paper derives commutation relations for the nonlinear terms and reports that the spatial versions satisfy them while the generalized non-pure spin versions do not. read the letter →

arxiv 2403.13699 v11 pith:AMCK7XAS submitted 2024-03-20 quant-ph cond-mat.stat-mech

Leonardo De Carlo This is my paper · ORCID
classification quant-phcond-mat.stat-mech
keywords nonlineartermsenergyconservationwavefunctiondispersionmacroscopicsuperpositionscommutationrelationsspinmodelsmeasurementproblemcollapse
topics The Measurement Problem
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The reading

The paper reviews a mechanism in which nonlinear terms added to the Schrödinger equation suppress macroscopic superpositions through energy conservation. It derives the commutation relations these terms must obey to remain physically admissible. The original terms that confine the wavefunction in space meet the relations, while the generalized versions intended for spin models to produce finite-temperature magnetization do not. A toy model illustrates that spatial cats encounter an energy barrier. The work ends with a comparison to standard collapse models.

What carries the argument

Commutation relations that nonlinear terms must satisfy to preserve physical admissibility when energy conservation is used to suppress macroscopic superpositions.

What would settle it

An explicit check, for a chosen non-pure spin Hamiltonian, of whether the generalized nonlinear term commutes with the total energy operator in the manner required by the derived relations.

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Core claim

The nonlinear terms confining the wavefunction in space satisfy the commutation relations required for physical admissibility under energy conservation. When these terms are generalized to non-pure spin models, they fail to satisfy the same relations, which may account for earlier observations about magnetization at finite temperature.

Load-bearing premise

The nonlinear terms must obey specific commutation relations derived from energy conservation to count as physically admissible.

Editorial extensions

If this is right

  • Spatial confining terms remain consistent with energy conservation.
  • Generalized spin terms violate the commutation relations needed for admissibility.
  • Formation of spatial cats is blocked by an energy barrier in the toy model.
  • The failure for non-pure states supplies an interpretation of prior magnetization results.

Reading between the lines

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  • Only a restricted class of nonlinear modifications can block dispersion while respecting energy conservation.
  • The mechanism may require pure-state assumptions to function for spin systems.
  • Direct tests could search for the predicted energy cost when superpositions attempt to form across separated locations.
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Referee Report

2 major / 1 minor

Summary. The manuscript reviews the theory of nonlinear terms introduced to block spatial superpositions of matter via energy conservation, as proposed in prior works. It derives commutation relations required for these terms to be physically admissible, verifies that the spatial-confining terms satisfy the relations, generalizes the terms from the 2023 De Carlo-Wick paper to non-pure spin models, and reports that the generalizations fail the constraints. A toy model illustrates the experimental idea of an energy barrier preventing spatial cats, with a final comparison to collapse models.

Significance. If the algebraic verification holds, the work supplies a consistency check on the nonlinear terms from the 2023 Entropy paper, supporting their use for suppressing macroscopic superpositions while highlighting limitations when extending to generalized spin models. The negative result for the generalizations may interpret prior findings on magnetization. The toy model is a strength, as it points toward a concrete, falsifiable experimental test involving energy barriers. These elements add to the literature on energy-conservation-based approaches to the measurement problem.

major comments (2)
  1. [Review of the theory and derivation of commutation relations] The commutation relations are obtained by reviewing the 2023 De Carlo-Wick paper and the 2017 Wick arXiv preprint. To permit independent assessment of the claim that the generalized terms fail the constraints, the explicit algebraic steps computing the commutators for the generalized nonlinear terms (including their action on non-pure states) should be supplied in the manuscript rather than referenced externally.
  2. [Toy model for experimental idea] The toy model section presents the experimental idea that forming spatial cats meets an energy barrier, but provides no quantitative estimates (e.g., barrier height in energy units, relevant timescales, or coupling parameters) that would allow evaluation of experimental feasibility or direct comparison with the commutation-relation constraints.
minor comments (1)
  1. [Abstract] The abstract and introduction use first-person singular ('I generalize', 'I derive'); for journal style, consider consistent use of 'we' or passive voice.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

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We thank the referee for their careful review and constructive feedback on our manuscript. We address each major comment below and will incorporate the suggested improvements in a revised version.

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  1. Referee: [Review of the theory and derivation of commutation relations] The commutation relations are obtained by reviewing the 2023 De Carlo-Wick paper and the 2017 Wick arXiv preprint. To permit independent assessment of the claim that the generalized terms fail the constraints, the explicit algebraic steps computing the commutators for the generalized nonlinear terms (including their action on non-pure states) should be supplied in the manuscript rather than referenced externally.

    Authors: We agree that explicit algebraic details would strengthen the manuscript and allow independent verification. In the revised version, we will add an appendix providing the full step-by-step computation of the commutators for the generalized nonlinear terms, including their explicit action on non-pure states and demonstration that the constraints are not satisfied. revision: yes

  2. Referee: [Toy model for experimental idea] The toy model section presents the experimental idea that forming spatial cats meets an energy barrier, but provides no quantitative estimates (e.g., barrier height in energy units, relevant timescales, or coupling parameters) that would allow evaluation of experimental feasibility or direct comparison with the commutation-relation constraints.

    Authors: We acknowledge that quantitative estimates would improve the toy model's utility for assessing feasibility. In the revision, we will add order-of-magnitude estimates for the energy barrier height (relative to typical spin-interaction scales), relevant timescales, and coupling parameters, using standard values from condensed-matter systems to permit comparison with the commutation constraints. revision: yes

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full rationale

The paper reviews prior self-cited works to derive commutation relations for physical admissibility under energy conservation, then performs a consistency check showing that spatial-confining nonlinear terms satisfy them while a generalization to non-pure spin models does not. No explicit equations, derivation steps, or reductions are supplied in the provided text that would allow exhibiting a specific reduction of the central claim to its inputs by construction (e.g., a fitted parameter renamed as prediction or a self-citation chain that is itself unverified). The consistency test on the generalized terms is presented as an independent computational verification, making the derivation self-contained against external benchmarks.

Assumptions & free parameters 0 free parameters · 1 assumptions · 0 invented entities

Based solely on the abstract, the work rests on the prior nonlinear terms and the assumption that energy conservation imposes commutation constraints; no new free parameters or invented entities are explicitly introduced in the provided text.

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  • domain assumption Nonlinear terms must satisfy specific commutation relations to be physically admissible under energy conservation
    Stated when the paper reviews the theory and derives the conditions the terms have to obey

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  title        = {Pith review of: On blocking Dispersion of Matter by Energy conservation},
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In [L. De Carlo and W. D. Wick, Entropy 25, 564 (2023)], we considered the problem of wavefunction ensembles for spin models. To observe magnetization at finite temperature, we had to add macroscopic nonlinear terms that suppress macroscopic superpositions by energy conservation. The nonlinear terms were of the kind introduced in [W. D. Wick, arXiv:1710.03278 (2017)] to block spatial cats by energy conservation, proposed as a solution to the Measurement Problem. Reviewing this theory, I derive commutation relations that these nonlinear terms have to satisfy to be physically admissible, and show that the ones confining the wavefunction in space do indeed satisfy these relations. I generalize the terms of [L. De Carlo and W. D. Wick, Entropy 25, 564 (2023)] for non-pure spin models and check if they also satisfy the constraints, concluding with a negative answer and possibly giving an interpretation of the previous results. With a toy model I present the main experimental idea, that is that forming spatial cats meets an energy barrier. A comparison with Collapse Models is at the end.

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