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Searching for Hot Water World Candidates with CHEOPS: Refining the radii and analysing the internal structures and atmospheric lifetimes of TOI-238 b and TOI-1685 b
T0 review · 3 major / 3 minor · reviewed 2026-08-08 · deepseek-v4-flash
Pith's one-line read TOI-238 b lies inside the hot water world triangle of mass-radius space at the 1σ level, and its water-dominated atmosphere could have survived to the present age, whereas TOI-1685 b is consistent with a bare core.
desk verdict Solid CHEOPS follow-up and a useful new selection criterion, but the water-world claim for TOI-238 b rests on a heating efficiency that the paper's own models suggest is not constant. read the letter →
The pith
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
The reading
What carries the argument
The load-bearing object is the Hot Water World triangle: the region in the mass-radius plane between the most extended bare-core model (iron-free silicate) and the most compact planet that still fits a 1% hydrogen/helium envelope, evaluated at a fixed equilibrium temperature and intrinsic luminosity. Inside this region a pure H/He atmosphere is not a viable explanation, so the planet must hold heavier volatiles such as water. The argument is carried by three complementary tools: the mass-radius exclusion geometry; an analytical energy-limited escape formula with a heating efficiency parameter $\eta$ whose plausible range is 0.01–0.15 and whose value is calibrated to about 0.05 for water-rich atmospheres using hydrodynamic escape simulations; and a neural-network-accelerated interior-structure inversion that maps measured mass and radius onto posterior distributions for the mass fractions of an iron core, silicate mantle, and volatile envelope.
What would settle it
A high-precision near-infrared transmission spectrum of TOI-238 b would settle the matter: the paper's models predict water absorption bands exceeding 100 ppm in transit depth for water mass fractions of 0.1 and 0.5, while a nearly flat spectrum at the level of about 20 ppm would contradict a detectable water layer and leave the water-world claim unsupported.
Extended reading notes
Core claim
The paper's central discovery is that the mass-radius degeneracy for close-in planets can be partially lifted by evaporation physics, and that applying this criterion to two targets of the photometric follow-up programme separates them cleanly. The 'Hot Water World triangle' for a given equilibrium temperature is bounded below by the lowest-density bare core (an iron-free rocky composition) and above by the most compact planet that could still carry a 1% H/He envelope (a Mercury-like core); because H/He envelopes below roughly 1% mass fraction evaporate within a few million years under strong irradiation, no purely rocky or H/He-enveloped planet should occupy the triangle. TOI-238 b falls inside this exclusion zone, meaning its low mean density requires a volatile layer heavier than H/He; the evaporation modelling shows hydrogen would be lost in under 1.3 Myr while a steam atmosphere could persist to the present age, making it a hot water world candidate. TOI-1685 b, by contrast, lies below the iron-free bare-rock model, so its density is compatible with a bare, rocky core even though a water-rich envelope is also allowed by the interior and evaporation analysis.
Load-bearing premise
The conclusion that a water atmosphere survives on TOI-238 b rests on the assumed heating efficiency of X-ray and extreme-ultraviolet irradiation on steam atmospheres: if the time-averaged efficiency is below the calibrated value of about 0.05, or if the XUV absorption radius is more compact than assumed, a 50% water envelope would be completely lost and the planet could be a bare core.
Editorial extensions
If this is right
- TOI-238 b becomes a priority transmission-spectroscopy target: if its envelope holds water at mass fractions of 0.1–0.5, the paper's forward spectra predict water absorption bands with transit-depth variations of roughly 100 ppm or more.
- Any atmosphere detected on TOI-238 b must have a high mean molecular weight, because a solar-composition H/He envelope cannot survive longer than about a million years under the assumed stellar XUV history.
- TOI-1685 b should not be counted as a securely established water world in demographic samples, since its radius below the pure-silicate model makes a bare rocky interior the conservative interpretation.
- Only about ten well-characterised planets currently lie fully inside hot water world triangles at the $2\sigma$ level, so radius-refinement follow-up can substantially enlarge the set of planets that definitely require heavy volatiles.
- If many close-in planets are confirmed inside these triangles, it would support formation models in which planets migrate inward from beyond the ice line, which predict exactly such water-rich close-in worlds.
Reading between the lines
- The triangle criterion is a necessary-condition test rather than a water detector: a planet inside the triangle could also be explained by envelopes dominated by CO$_2$, CO, or CH$_4$, and the paper itself notes that only atmospheric follow-up can break that remaining degeneracy.
- The literature disagreement on TOI-238 b's radius shows how sensitive triangle membership is: with the smaller published radius the planet would lie outside the triangle entirely, so other candidate water worlds with conflicting radius measurements should be re-examined before being classified.
- If TOI-238 b does retain a steam atmosphere, it would provide a rare calibration point for energy-limited evaporation of water-rich envelopes, but the paper states that self-consistently coupling the hydrodynamic escape model into the evolution calculation is not currently possible, leaving the surviving-water conclusion tied to the assumed heating efficiency.
Editorial analysis
A structured set of objections, weighed in public.
Referee Report
Summary. The paper introduces 'Hot Water World triangles' in mass-radius space for close-in planets, where low-mass H/He envelopes are expected to be unstable and heavier volatiles are required, and it presents a demographic census of known planets in these regions. It then reports CHEOPS photometry of TOI-238 b and TOI-1685 b, jointly fitted with TESS photometry and published radial velocities. For TOI-238 b the derived radius is 1.559 +/- 0.047 R_Earth and mass 3.37 +/- 0.49 M_Earth, placing it inside its Hot Water World triangle at the 1 sigma level; the paper argues that a pure H/He atmosphere would be lost in 0.4-1.3 Myr, while a water-dominated atmosphere could survive to the current age, making TOI-238 b a hot water world candidate. For TOI-1685 b the derived radius is 1.421 +/- 0.060 R_Earth and mass 3.07 +/- 0.34 M_Earth, placing it below the pure-silicate bare-core model, so a bare core cannot be ruled out. The paper also presents interior structure modelling with plaNETic, atmospheric escape simulations with CHAIN, synthetic JWST spectra, and comparisons with the NGPPS formation population.
Significance. The photometric analysis is careful and addresses long-standing literature discrepancies, and the paper is explicit about many of its model limitations. If the water-world status of TOI-238 b is confirmed, the planet would be an important atmospheric follow-up target, and the Hot Water World triangle framework is a useful target-selection tool. Strengths include the use of public codes (chexoplanet, plaNETic, FastChem, BeAR), the provision of detrended light curves, a systematic treatment of interior-structure priors, and the direct statement that self-consistent coupling of the hydrodynamic escape model into the evolution calculation is not currently possible. However, the central claim that a water-dominated atmosphere survives depends on escape-model parameters that are not fully propagated, and one calibration input in the hydrodynamic simulations is inconsistent with the fitted orbit.
major comments (3)
- [§3.1.6] The CHAIN hydrodynamic simulations that motivate the adopted heating efficiency eta=0.05 are run for a semi-major axis a=0.02556 AU, whereas the joint fit in Table 3 gives a=0.02120 +/- 0.00038 AU for TOI-238 b. Because the orbital distance sets the incident XUV flux, this means the calibration is not performed for the actual planet. The derived heating efficiency should be re-evaluated at the fitted semi-major axis, or the sensitivity of the water-survival conclusion to this inconsistency should be quantified.
- [§3.1.5 and §3.1.6] The back-evolution that yields the required initial water fractions treats the envelope as pure H2O over the entire lifetime and keeps eta=0.05 constant. CHAIN's own Figure 10 shows that the escape rate is non-monotonic in water fraction: at Z=10-30% the atmosphere is lost faster than a pure H/He envelope, so an early H/He-rich phase would correspond to a substantially higher effective heating efficiency than eta=0.05. Since the paper states in Section 3.1.6 that self-consistent coupling is not currently possible, the conclusion that a water-dominated atmosphere 'would have survived' should be presented as conditional on this assumption, with a quantitative test (e.g., an early phase at eta=0.15 with a fast-rotator XUV history) rather than as the main result.
- [§2.1 and §4.1] The statement that TOI-238 b lies inside its Hot Water World triangle at the 1 sigma level treats the triangle boundaries as fixed. Section 4.1 reports that the upper boundary depends on the assumed intrinsic luminosity L_int=10^21 erg/s and shifts by up to 13-17% for L_int between 10^20 and 10^22 erg/s. This model-induced boundary uncertainty is comparable to the 3% radius precision and is not propagated into the membership claim. The paper should either quantify the boundary shift at the mass and equilibrium temperature of TOI-238 b or soften the 1 sigma membership statement accordingly.
minor comments (3)
- [Figure 8 caption] The caption states 'the luminosity of 10^21 erg/s/cm2'; the units should be erg/s, not erg/s/cm2.
- [Table 3] The row 'Impact parameter, b' appears twice in the TOI-238 b column; one duplicate entry should be removed.
- [§3.1.5, Eq. (1)] The tidal correction factor K is introduced but its numerical evaluation is never specified; please state explicitly how K is computed.
Circularity Check
No significant circularity: the CHEOPS radius measurements and the H/He evaporation lifetimes are derived from independent data and external evaporation models; the water-survival inference depends on a calibrated heating efficiency but does not reduce to its inputs by construction.
full rationale
The paper's central measurements (CHEOPS/TESS photometry, adopted RV semi-amplitudes, and stellar parameters) are independent of the models used for interpretation. The Hot Water World triangle boundaries are defined using BICEPS mass-radius models and the Owen & Wu (2017) evaporation criterion, both external to this work, and the claim that TOI-238 b lies in the triangle is a data-driven classification. The pure H/He lifetime calculation (0.4-1.3 Myr) uses the Kubyshkina et al. (2018) grid and MESA, not the triangle definition, so it is an independent check. The water-survival inference does use the energy-limited formula with η=0.05, which is calibrated to the authors' CHAIN hydrodynamic simulations of the present-day planet. However, this is a model calibration, not a circular reduction: the survival conclusion (required initial water fraction below 50%) is not equal to the calibrated present-day mass-loss rate, and the paper explicitly explores the full η=0.01-0.15 range and fast/slow rotator cases, showing the conclusion is conditional. The paper also states that self-consistent coupling of hydrodynamics into the evolution is not currently possible, an honest limitation. Self-citations to BICEPS, plaNETic, CHAIN, Mors, and NGPPS are numerous, but they support model inputs rather than substitute for the measurement, and no uniqueness theorem or definitional identity forces the central claim.
Assumptions & free parameters
free parameters (7)
- Heating efficiency eta for energy-limited water escape =
0.01 to 0.15; preferred 0.05
- Intrinsic luminosity L_int for HWW triangle BICEPS models =
1e21 erg/s (tests over 1e20 to 1e22 erg/s)
- H/He envelope mass fraction cutoff for triangle upper boundary =
1%
- Photospheric pressure P_photo for XUV absorption radius =
100 mbar
- Mean molecular weight mu for Reff in water escape =
1.3 mH
- Initial stellar rotation periods for XUV scenarios =
TOI-238 slow rotator 15 d at 150 Myr; TOI-1685 9.6 d at 150 Myr; fast rotator 1 d
- Water-poor interior prior envelope water fraction =
Gaussian mean 0.5%, sigma 0.25%
assumptions (8)
- domain assumption Close-in H/He envelopes with mass fractions below about 1% are evaporated within a few Myr (Owen & Wu 2017; Lopez 2017; Jin & Mordasini 2018; Kubyshkina & Vidotto 2021).
- domain assumption BICEPS mass-radius models correctly represent bare rocky cores, Earth-like and Mercury-like cores, 1% H/He envelopes, and steam envelopes at a given equilibrium temperature.
- domain assumption The energy-limited escape formula with constant heating efficiency captures water-rich atmospheric escape over the planet's lifetime.
- domain assumption Stellar XUV luminosity evolution is described by Mors and Johnstone et al. for slow and fast rotators.
- domain assumption The known exoplanet catalog used for the demographic study is complete enough for the quoted counts of planets inside the triangles.
- domain assumption The planets' orbital semi-major axes have not changed since disk dispersal.
- domain assumption Primordial water mass fractions above 50% are unlikely.
- domain assumption Interior model layering with iron core, silicate mantle, and volatile layer, with no water dissolution into the mantle, is adequate.
Cite this review
Pith. "Pith review of Searching for Hot Water World Candidates with CHEOPS: Refining the radii and analysing the internal structures and atmospheric lifetimes of TOI-238 b and TOI-1685 b." pith.science (2026). https://pith.science/paper/LIQF3Q64
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author = {Pith},
title = {Pith review of: Searching for Hot Water World Candidates with CHEOPS: Refining the radii and analysing the internal structures and atmospheric lifetimes of TOI-238 b and TOI-1685 b},
year = {2026},
howpublished = {\url{https://pith.science/paper/LIQF3Q64}},
note = {Machine review of arXiv:2502.07887}
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read the original abstract
Studying the composition of exoplanets is one of the most promising approaches to observationally constrain planet formation and evolution processes. However, this endeavour is complicated for small exoplanets by the fact that a wide range of compositions is compatible with their bulk properties. To overcome this issue, we identify triangular regions in the mass-radius space where part of this degeneracy is lifted for close-in planets, since low-mass H/He envelopes would not be stable due to high-energy stellar irradiation. Planets in these Hot Water World triangles need to contain at least some heavier volatiles and are therefore interesting targets for atmospheric follow-up observations. We perform a demographic study to show that only few well-characterised planets in these regions are currently known and introduce our CHEOPS GTO programme aimed at identifying more of these potential hot water worlds. Here, we present CHEOPS observations for the first two targets of our programme, TOI-238 b and TOI-1685 b. Combined with TESS photometry and published RVs, we use the precise radii and masses of both planets to study their location relative to the corresponding Hot Water World triangles, perform an interior structure analysis and study the lifetimes of H/He and water-dominated atmospheres under these conditions. We find that TOI-238 b lies, at the 1-sigma level, inside the corresponding triangle. While a pure H/He atmosphere would have evaporated after 0.4-1.3 Myr, it is likely that a water-dominated atmosphere would have survived until the current age of the system, which makes TOI-238 b a promising hot water world candidate. Conversely, TOI-1685 b lies below the mass-radius model for a pure silicate planet, meaning that even though a water-dominated atmosphere would be compatible both with our internal structure and evaporation analysis, we cannot rule out the planet to be a bare core.
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