REVIEW 3 major objections 5 minor 46 references
A Novel Benchmark and Dataset for Efficient 3D Gaussian Splatting with Gaussian Point Cloud Compression
T0 review · 3 major / 5 minor · reviewed 2026-08-07 · deepseek-v4-flash
Pith's one-line read A learned codec trained on 1,000 Gaussian scenes cuts the bitrate of Gaussian positions by 8.2% over MPEG G-PCC v23 and runs about six times faster.
desk verdict Useful dataset and a plausible geometry codec, but the integration results are confounded by anchor-count changes that a lossless position codec cannot explain. read the letter →
The pith
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
The reading
What carries the argument
The object that carries the argument is the occupancy code, an eight-bit pattern that records which of a voxel's eight children are occupied at the next finer scale of a multi-scale voxel hierarchy. GausPcgc's Four-stage Occupancy Predictor (FOP) estimates the probability of each occupancy code in a 1-1-2-4 bit split, predicting bit 1, then bit 2, then bits 3-4, then bits 5-8, with each stage conditioned on the previously predicted bits and on features aggregated from neighboring voxels by sparse convolutions; the resulting cross-entropy loss is the per-point bitrate, and arithmetic coding turns the predicted distributions into a bitstream. The companion GausPcc-1K dataset supplies the training distribution: 1,000 Scaffold-GS scenes curated from DL3DV with average PSNR 29.01 dB, chosen to reproduce the locally dense, globally sparse geometry of Gaussian point clouds.
What would settle it
Train GausPcgc on GausPcc-1K and measure bits per point separately for every Mip-NeRF360, Tanks and Temples, and Deep Blending scene, not just the pooled average; if individual scenes land far from the 13.27 bpp mean, or if any scene's local-density histogram is closer to Kitti's than to GausPcc-1K's, the dataset-transfer premise behind the 8.2% gain fails. The paper's Table 1 already contains a version of this test: Octattention trained on Kitti scores 11.31 bpp on the same Gaussian positions, below GausPcgc's 13.27 bpp, so the practical claim stands only when decode latency is part of the comparison.
Extended reading notes
Core claim
The paper's central claim is that Gaussian positions can be compressed losslessly and far more efficiently by a learned geometry codec trained specifically on Gaussian-like point clouds, and that this codec can be dropped into existing 3DGS compression pipelines. Concretely, GausPcgc converts each Gaussian or anchor point set into multi-scale voxel occupancy codes and predicts each eight-bit code in four conditioned stages (bit 1, then bit 2, then bits 3-4, then bits 5-8), using sparse 3D convolutions over neighboring voxels; the predicted probabilities drive arithmetic coding. Trained on GausPcc-1K, it reaches 13.27 bpp average on the Mip-NeRF360, Tanks and Temples, and Deep Blending test positions versus 14.46 bpp for G-PCC v23, an 8.2% rate gain, with 0.797 s encoding and 0.834 s decoding versus 5.72 s and 4.04 s for G-PCC. Inserted into HAC, HAC++, CAT-3DGS, and TC-GS, it reduces total model size while holding or slightly improving PSNR; on the HAC bicycle scene the total bitstream drops from 45.67 MB to 36.39 MB, with the position stream falling to 1.08 MB and PSNR rising from 25.01 to 25.14 dB.
Load-bearing premise
The load-bearing premise is that the 1,000 Scaffold-GS scenes in GausPcc-1K, curated from DL3DV, share the position distribution of the Gaussian test scenes from Mip-NeRF360, Tanks and Temples, and Deep Blending, so a codec trained on the dataset transfers to those scenes; the paper validates this only with aggregate KL divergences, not per-scene or per-method transfer, and that premise carries the 8.2% gain in Table 1.
Editorial extensions
If this is right
- Gaussian position storage drops from the common 48 bits per point (3 coordinates times 16-bit quantization) to roughly 13.27 bits per point on the paper's test sets, so total 3DGS model sizes shrink without retraining the scene.
- Swapping G-PCC for GausPcgc inside HAC, HAC++, CAT-3DGS, and TC-GS reduces total bitstream size while preserving or slightly improving PSNR, SSIM, and LPIPS in the reported scenes.
- Because the position codec is lossless relative to voxel-size quantization, it avoids the duplicate-coordinate artifacts the paper attributes to 16-bit position quantization in HAC and CAT-3DGS.
- The benchmark establishes that point-cloud codecs trained on GausPcc-1K, rather than on Kitti or 8iVFB, are the ones that beat G-PCC on Gaussian geometry, giving future work a standard training set.
- GausPcc-1K retains attribute values alongside geometry, so the same dataset can later support learned Gaussian attribute compression, the paper's stated future direction.
Reading between the lines
- If the distribution-transfer premise holds, the same recipe, gather a few hundred trained scenes from a target representation, fit a learned occupancy predictor, and plug it into the existing compressor, should transfer to other anchor-based Gaussian variants, not just Scaffold-GS.
- The paper's own Table 1 shows that a Kitti-trained Octattention model reaches 11.31 bpp, below GausPcgc's 13.27 bpp, so in a regime where decode time is irrelevant the best-rate claim would not hold; GausPcgc's practical contribution is a rate-latency trade-off, not rate supremacy.
- Because GausPcc-1K is generated from Scaffold-GS anchors, a user working with dense per-Gaussian 3DGS rather than structured anchors may need a new training set, a regime the paper's benchmark does not directly test.
- A testable extension is to compare GausPcgc against a model trained on Kitti plus a small fine-tuning set of Gaussian scenes; if fine-tuning closes the gap, dataset size rather than distribution may be the active ingredient.
Editorial analysis
A structured set of objections, weighed in public.
Referee Report
Summary. The paper introduces GausPcc-1K, a dataset of 1,000 Scaffold-GS Gaussian point clouds curated from DL3DV, and GausPcgc, an AI-based lossless geometry codec for Gaussian positions that uses hierarchical occupancy codes and a four-stage conditional probability model. The authors report an 8.2% bits-per-point reduction over G-PCC v23 with roughly 6x faster inference on a new Gaussian point cloud compression benchmark, and they claim that plugging GausPcgc into HAC, HAC++, CAT-3DGS, and TC-GS reduces total bitstream size without visual quality loss. The paper also presents distribution analyses (local density, fractal dimension, KL divergence) to justify the need for a specialized dataset.
Significance. If the claims were supported by consistent evidence, the contribution would be valuable: the dataset creation effort is substantial, the distribution analysis is a useful step for bridging point cloud compression and 3DGS, and an AI codec that beats G-PCC v23 on Gaussian positions with lower latency would have practical impact. The authors commit to releasing code, data, and models, which would aid reproducibility. However, the current manuscript contains internal inconsistencies in the central benchmark table and uncontrolled integration experiments, so the headline claims are not yet established. The novelty of the dataset and the integration idea are genuine, but the evidence presented is not currently proportionate to the strength of the claims.
major comments (3)
- [§5.2, Table 1] The text states that “Models trained on Kitti fail to outperform G-PCC” and that retraining on GausPcc-1K makes “most methods surpass G-PCC,” but Table 1 contradicts both statements. Kitti-trained Octattention achieves 11.31 bpp versus G-PCC’s 14.46 bpp, and Kitti-trained EHEM (13.37) and RENO (13.89) also beat G-PCC. Meanwhile, among GausPcc-trained models, only RENO (Ours) and the proposed Ours column beat G-PCC, while SparsePCGC (Ours), Octattention (Ours), and EHEM (Ours) do not. Furthermore, the RENO (Ours) column is numerically identical to the proposed Ours column in every row, including Avg Bpp (13.27) and CR Gain (−8.2%), which indicates a table construction error. This table is the core evidence for the benchmark and for the claimed 8.2% gain, and it must be corrected and re-analyzed before the central claims can be assessed.
- [§5.2, Tables 3, 6, 7 and Appendix B.4/B.5] The integration experiments are confounded by differing anchor counts: Ours-HAC has 819,267 anchors versus HAC’s 912,838 (10.2% fewer), Ours-Cat-3DGS has 601,928 versus 623,483 (3.5% fewer), and Ours-TC-GS has 450,765 versus 511,792 (11.9% fewer). Appendix B.4 states that GausPcgc uses voxel-size-based quantization that guarantees “strictly lossless geometric representation,” but a lossless position codec cannot change the number of anchors in a trained model. Appendix B.5 then attributes the reduced anchor count to the compression method, which is internally inconsistent. Consequently, the size reductions and PSNR changes in Table 2 cannot be attributed to GausPcgc: a large portion of the savings comes from the reduced anchor count, as seen in Table 3 where feature, scaling, and offset costs fall by 5.12 MB combined while the position saving is only 4.14 MB. The authors should either run controlled experiments with matched anchor counts or explicitly state that the quantization is lossy and analyze the resulting rate-distortion trade-off.
- [§4.2, Table 8] The transferability of GausPcc-1K to the test scenes is a load-bearing premise for the claimed 8.2% gain, but it is supported only by aggregate KL divergences averaged across scales. No per-scene or per-method transfer analysis is provided, and the test point clouds in Section 5.1 are extracted from trained 3DGS models that likely use the same Scaffold-GS pipeline used to create GausPcc-1K. The fact that Kitti-trained Octattention already beats G-PCC on Gaussian point clouds (Table 1) further weakens the claim that the distribution mismatch is severe for all methods. The authors should provide per-scene transfer results and clarify the extent to which the evaluation set overlaps with the training distribution.
minor comments (5)
- [Table 1] The header layout with “Test/Train” is very difficult to parse, and the duplicated RENO/Ours columns should be corrected. Please also ensure that the CR Gain values are consistently defined (negative indicates improvement) and that the highlighted best/second-best cells match the corrected numbers.
- [Appendix B.1] The benchmark protocol mixes own reproductions (G-PCC, RENO on 8iVFB) with values taken from original papers’ RD curves (SparsePCGC, Octattention, EHEM). This should be disclosed in the main text, since differing reproduction protocols can bias the comparison.
- [§4.2] The dataset selection criteria are described only as “rigorous quality assessment criteria”; please specify the PSNR threshold or other filtering rules used to select the 1,000 scenes from the trained samples.
- [Appendix B.5] The sentence “our method requires fewer anchors to represent the entire scene” directly conflicts with the lossless claim in Appendix B.4. If the method is lossless with respect to voxel-size quantization, the anchor set should be unchanged; please reword or correct this statement.
- [Figure 5] The caption contains a typo: “llustration” should be “Illustration.”
Circularity Check
No significant circularity: the central compression benchmark trains on GausPcc-1K and tests on external Gaussian scenes against external baselines; reported gains are empirical. The anchor-count changes in integration experiments are a non-circular experimental confound.
full rationale
The paper's core result—GausPcgc's bitrate on Gaussian point clouds—is obtained by training on the newly constructed GausPcc-1K dataset and evaluating on the external Mip-NeRF360, Tanks and Temples, and Deep Blending scenes, with G-PCC v23 and other point cloud codecs as external baselines. No tested quantity is fitted to the evaluation data, and no reported number is defined in terms of the quantity it is claimed to predict. The dataset-suitability argument (local density, fractal dimension, KL divergence) is an empirical comparison rather than a derivation: GausPcc-1K is built from Scaffold-GS models on DL3DV scenes, while the test distributions are measured independently, so the claimed match is not an identity by construction. The self-citations (notably UniPCGC for non-uniform grouping and Octattention as a baseline) are transparent and individually ablated; they provide components but do not carry the central generalization claim. The main weaknesses are internal-validity issues rather than circularity: Appendix B.5 reports that 'Ours-*' variants have substantially fewer anchors than the baselines (e.g., HAC 912,838 to 819,267 in Table 3), which is hard to reconcile with the paper's assertion that GausPcgc provides 'strictly lossless geometric representation' and therefore should not change the anchor count; as a result, the size reductions in Table 2 may be partly attributable to model retraining or quantization changes rather than to the position codec itself. Similarly, the absence of a direct comparison with the authors' own UniPCGC baseline is a completeness concern. These issues affect the attribution of the empirical gains, but they do not make the derivation circular: the benchmark numbers remain externally evaluated results rather than reductions to the paper's own assumptions.
Assumptions & free parameters
free parameters (3)
- Non-uniform grouping structure =
1-1-2-4
- Spatial convolution kernel size =
5
- Feature channel dimension =
32
assumptions (4)
- domain assumption Scaffold-GS structured anchors (Eq. 2) are the geometry representation to compress, and Gaussian positions in other 3DGS variants share this distribution.
- standard math Arithmetic coding with predicted occupancy-code probabilities achieves lossless compression after quantization.
- domain assumption KL divergence and fractal dimension statistics at chosen voxel scales capture the properties relevant to compression performance.
- domain assumption The chosen test scenes are representative of the target Gaussian compression domain.
Cite this review
Pith. "Pith review of A Novel Benchmark and Dataset for Efficient 3D Gaussian Splatting with Gaussian Point Cloud Compression." pith.science (2026). https://pith.science/paper/IW624YZB
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Recently, immersive media and autonomous driving applications have significantly advanced through 3D Gaussian Splatting (3DGS), which offers high-fidelity rendering and computational efficiency. Despite these advantages, 3DGS as a display-oriented representation requires substantial storage due to its numerous Gaussian attributes. Current compression methods have shown promising results but typically neglect the compression of Gaussian spatial positions, creating unnecessary bitstream overhead. We conceptualize Gaussian primitives as point clouds and propose leveraging point cloud compression techniques for more effective storage. AI-based point cloud compression demonstrates superior performance and faster inference compared to MPEG Geometry-based Point Cloud Compression (G-PCC). However, direct application of existing models to Gaussian compression may yield suboptimal results, as Gaussian point clouds tend to exhibit globally sparse yet locally dense geometric distributions that differ from conventional point cloud characteristics. To address these challenges, we introduce GausPcgc for Gaussian point cloud geometry compression along with a specialized training dataset GausPcc-1K. Our work pioneers the integration of AI-based point cloud compression into Gaussian compression pipelines, achieving superior compression ratios. The framework complements existing Gaussian compression methods while delivering significant performance improvements. All code, data, and pre-trained models will be publicly released to facilitate further research advances in this field.
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