Maximum entropy principle for quantum processes

Siddhartha Das; Ujjwal Sen

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Maximum entropy principle for quantum processes

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Pith's one-line read This paper claims that among quantum channels with a fixed maximum mean output energy, the entropy-maximizing channels are exactly the absolutely thermalizing channels, whose output is always the Gibbs state of that energy.

desk verdict The paper's central if-and-only-if theorem is false; a simple measure-and-prepare counterexample breaks the claimed uniqueness, leaving only a straightforward 'if' direction. read the letter →

arxiv 2506.24079 v3 pith:WJLUAGYQ submitted 2025-06-30 quant-ph cond-mat.stat-mechhep-thmath-phmath.MP

Siddhartha Das , Ujjwal Sen This is my paper

classification quant-phcond-mat.stat-mechhep-thmath-phmath.MP MSC 81P4594A17

keywords maximumentropyprinciplequantumchannelsabsolutethermalizationthermalstatechannelprivaterandomnessdistillationenergyconstraintsthermodynamics

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The pith

A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.

The reading

This paper extends the maximum entropy principle from quantum states to quantum processes. It claims that among all quantum channels whose maximum mean output energy is $E$, the channel entropy $S[N]$ is maximized exactly by the absolutely thermalizing channel $T^{\beta(E)}$ — a process that discards every input and outputs the Gibbs state of inverse temperature $\beta(E)$. If correct, this gives an inference-based explanation for why absolute thermalization appears in nature: an unknown process about which only the mean energy is known is best described as a thermalizing one. The same result implies that thermalizing channels have minimal private randomness capacity under the energy constraint, connecting the principle to randomness distillation from quantum processes.

What carries the argument

The argument is carried by the channel entropy $S[N]=\inf_{\psi\in St(RA')} S(A|R)_{N(\psi)}$, the minimum conditional output entropy of a purification, together with the class of replacer channels $R^\omega$, which erase every input to a fixed output $\omega$. An absolutely thermalizing channel is the replacer channel whose output is the Gibbs state. The proof bounds the channel entropy by the minimum output entropy, asserts that equality occurs only for replacer channels, and then uses Fact 1 — Gibbs states maximize entropy among fixed-energy states — to identify the thermal state as the optimal fixed output. This reduction is what turns the state-level maximum entropy principle into a channel-level one.

What would settle it

For a measure-and-prepare channel $N(\rho)=\sum_k \langle k|\rho|k\rangle\,\sigma_k$ whose output states $\sigma_k$ all have equal von Neumann entropy but are not identical, compute the channel entropy $S[N]$ and the minimum output entropy $\inf_\rho S(N(\rho))$. If these coincide while $N$ is not a replacer channel, the load-bearing premise behind the converse direction is false and the theorem's 'only if' would need a new argument.

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Extended reading notes

Core claim

The paper's central result (Theorem 1) is a channel analogue of Jaynes' maximum entropy principle. Let $\hat H$ be a bounded Hamiltonian on the channel output system and define the channel mean energy as $\langle \hat H\rangle_N = \sup_\rho \operatorname{tr}[\hat H N(\rho)]$. The paper claims that for any channel $N_{A'\to A}$ with $\langle \hat H\rangle_N = E$, $$S[N] \le S[$T^{{\beta(E)}}$_{A'\to A}],$$ with equality if and only if $N$ is the absolutely thermalizing channel $T^{\beta(E)}$, i.e. the replacer channel that sends every input state to the thermal state $\gamma^{\beta(E)}$ with $\langle \hat H\rangle_{\gamma^{\beta(E)}} = E$. Because $S[N]$ and the private randomness capacity obey $S[N]+P_{\rm random}[N]=\log|A|$ for finite-dimensional outputs, the same channel minimizes $P_{\rm random}[N]$ among channels of mean energy $E$.

Load-bearing premise

The proof assumes that a channel's entropy equals the minimum entropy of its outputs only when the channel erases every input to the same fixed output state; the paper states this equivalence without proof, and it is not generally true.

Editorial extensions

If this is right

Under the maximum entropy principle, a quantum process about which only the mean output energy is known should be modeled as an absolutely thermalizing channel; every input state is mapped to the same Gibbs state.
Absolute thermalization is thus derived from unbiased inference rather than assumed as a dynamical law, giving an axiomatic route to thermalization in open-system and observable-universe settings.
For finite-dimensional channels, the trade-off $S[N]+P_{\rm random}[N]=\log|A|$ implies the absolutely thermalizing channel has the smallest private randomness capacity among all channels of the same mean energy (Eq. (7)).
The paper notes the same reasoning should extend to generalized Gibbs states with chemical potentials, leaving the formal proof for future work.
Deviation from the absolutely thermalizing channel, measured by the channel relative entropy $D[N\|T^{\beta(E)}]$, becomes a candidate quantifier of a channel's thermodynamic and informational resourcefulness.

Reading between the lines

Editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

A natural testbed for the principle is the infinite-dimensional or Gaussian bosonic setting, where replacer channels are not available; one could check whether thermal Gaussian channels emerge as the energy-constrained entropy maximizers.
Quantifying the gap between $S[N]$ and $\inf_\rho S(N(\rho))$ for non-replacer channels would give a resource measure for how far a channel is from being absolutely thermalizing.
The state-channel analogy invites a dual principle: under a fixed mean energy, the channel minimizing private randomness is the thermalizing one, which the paper mentions as a minimum intrinsic randomness principle.
If the proof's equality characterization fails, one could still salvage the theorem by restricting to channels for which $S[N]=\inf_\rho S(N(\rho))$; identifying that class is a concrete follow-up question.

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Desk Editor's Note

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Colleague,

The central theorem is false. The paper claims that among channels with fixed maximum mean output energy E, entropy is maximized iff the channel is absolutely thermalizing. The 'if' direction is a direct consequence of Jaynes' principle and the standard bound S[N] ≤ min output entropy. The 'only if' direction relies on the claim that S[N] = min output entropy iff N is a replacer channel. That claim is wrong. A qubit measure-and-prepare channel with two diagonal output states γ and σ of equal entropy satisfies the equality without being a replacer. The stress-test note's explicit example works: take γ = diag(1/3,2/3), σ = diag(2/3,1/3), and N(ρ) = ⟨0|ρ|0⟩γ + ⟨1|ρ|1⟩σ. For E = 2/3, the channel respects the energy bound, S[N] = S(γ) = h(2/3), and it is not a replacer. So the maximizer is not unique and the theorem as stated collapses.

The paper is not without merit. It is clearly written, the analogy between the state and channel maximum-entropy principles is conceptually nice, and the authors are honest enough to note the parallel work by Faist and Khatri. The 'if' direction is correct, though it is a straightforward corollary of known inequalities and Fact 1, and it is not enough to carry the paper's framing as a unique characterization. The corollary about private randomness capacity inherits the flaw and is also unsupported.

The soft spot is load-bearing, not a minor gap. The equality condition in the lemma after Eq. (5) is asserted without proof, and it is simply false. I checked the counterexample; it holds. There is no way to fix the 'only if' without replacing it with a strictly weaker statement, which would change the paper's main claim.

This paper deserves a serious referee because the error is subtle and the claim would be significant if true. But my recommendation to the editor would be rejection. The authors could salvage a much smaller note on the 'if' direction, but that is likely below the threshold for a standalone publication.

Faithfully yours.

Referee Report

3 major / 5 minor

Summary. The paper proposes a maximum entropy principle for quantum channels. Its main result, Theorem 1, claims that among all quantum channels with a fixed maximum mean output energy E, the channel entropy S[N] is maximized if and only if N is an absolutely thermalizing channel whose fixed output is the thermal state of mean energy E. The proof rests on the assertion that S[N] equals the minimum output entropy of N exactly when N is a replacer channel. As an application, the paper claims that under the same energy constraint, the private randomness capacity is minimized if and only if the channel is absolutely thermalizing. The 'if' direction of the main theorem is straightforward from the maximum entropy principle for states, but the 'only if' direction and the resulting uniqueness claims are the advertised content.

Significance. If the theorem were correct, it would give a dynamical analogue of Jaynes's principle and a new derivation of absolute thermalization under an energy constraint, with potential applications to channel thermodynamics and private randomness. The paper is clearly written and correctly identifies the simple upper bound: for any channel N, S[N] is no larger than the entropy of some output state of N, which by Fact 1 is bounded by the thermal entropy. However, the central uniqueness claim is false: there exist non-replacer channels that attain the same maximal channel entropy without being absolutely thermalizing. The paper contains no machine-checked proofs or numerical verification that could compensate for the incorrect equality condition. Because the main advertised characterization fails, the significance of the paper is substantially reduced.

major comments (3)

[Main Result, paragraph after Eq. (5)] The assertion 'S[N] = inf_{ρ∈St(A′)} S(A)_{N(ρ)} if and only if N is a replacer channel' is false. Counterexample: let A=A′ be a qubit, H=diag(0,1), E=2/3, γ=diag(1/3,2/3), σ=diag(2/3,1/3), and define N(ρ)=⟨0|ρ|0⟩γ+⟨1|ρ|1⟩σ. This map is CPTP and is not a replacer because γ≠σ. Its mean energy is ⟨H⟩_N = max{tr(Hγ), tr(Hσ)} = 2/3 = E. For every pure input ψ_{RA′}, the output is a classical-quantum state with letter states γ and σ, so S(A|R)_{N(ψ)} = pS(γ)+(1−p)S(σ) = S(γ), while every output mixture has entropy at least S(γ) by concavity. Hence S[N] = S(γ) = inf_ρ S(N(ρ)), but N is not a replacer. The claimed equivalence is therefore invalid, and this is the load-bearing step for the uniqueness part of Theorem 1.
[Main Result, proof of Theorem 1, Eq. (3)] The inequality chain S[N] ≤ inf_{ρ∈St(A′)} S(A)_{N(ρ)} ≤ S(γ^{β(E)}) = S[T^{β(E)}] establishes only that the absolutely thermalizing channel is a maximizer. The 'only if' direction of Eq. (3) requires equality throughout the chain, and equality in the first inequality is exactly the false replacer condition discussed above. The counterexample in the previous comment realizes equality with a non-replacer channel and attains the same value S[T^{β(E)}], so the claimed unique characterization in Theorem 1 is false.
[Private or intrinsic randomness, Eq. (7)] The claimed 'if and only if' for minimum private randomness capacity inherits the same flaw. For the qubit channel in the counterexample, |A|=2, so Prandom[N] = log|A| − S[N] = 1 − S(γ) = Prandom[T^{β(E)}]. Thus a non-absolutely-thermalizing channel also attains the minimum in Eq. (7), contradicting the stated uniqueness. The trade-off relation (6) is correct, but it does not rescue the application once the main theorem's uniqueness fails.

minor comments (5)

[Preliminaries, Eq. (4)] The optimization variable is written as ρ in Eq. (4) and as ψ in the preceding sentence; please unify the notation.
[Main Result, proof of Theorem 1] The sentence 'S[Rω] = ω' should read 'S[Rω] = S(ω)'.
[Introduction and Theorem 1] The informal statement says 'constrained by a maximum mean output energy E', while Theorem 1 uses the equality constraint ⟨H⟩_N = E; please clarify whether the intended constraint is '≤E' or '=E'.
[Fact 1] The wording 'the maximum entropy ... is attainable if and only if the state is the thermal state' is imprecise; the maximum value is attained by the thermal state, as correctly expressed in Eq. (1).
[Note added and reference [63]] Reference [63] is incomplete: the arXiv number is given as '2507.xxxxx' and should be filled in before publication.

Circularity Check

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No circularity: Theorem 1 is an attempted application of Jaynes' maximum entropy principle to channels; the central derivation does not reduce to its own inputs.

full rationale

The paper's derivation chain is a direct channel analogue of the standard state-level maximum entropy principle. The channel entropy functional S[N] is adopted from external prior work (Refs. [28,29], including Gour and Wilde), and the self-cited paper [38] (which includes one of the present authors) is used only as an additional pointer for the same definitional framework; it is not load-bearing because the quantity is independently established in Ref. [29]. The proof of Theorem 1 uses the inequality S[N] ≤ inf_ρ S(N(ρ)) and then asserts an equality condition: 'S[N] = inf_{ρ∈St(A')} S(A)_{N(ρ)} if and only if the channel decorrelates A from R... This happens only when the channel N is a replacer channel.' Whether this assertion is mathematically correct is a soundness question, not a circularity question: it is an internal mathematical lemma, not a fitted parameter, not a prediction, and not an imported uniqueness theorem from the authors' prior work. The final optimization over replacer channels reduces to Fact 1, an external, parameter-free statement about Gibbs states, and no step defines absolute thermalization in terms of the claimed maximum or renames a known result. The known defect of the paper is the falsity of the 'only if' direction, which is a correctness issue outside the circularity category. Therefore no significant circularity is present; the appropriate score is 0.

Assumptions & free parameters 0 free parameters · 3 assumptions · 0 invented entities

The paper introduces no fitted parameters or new entities. It relies on Jaynes' principle, the standard channel entropy definition, and an erroneous claim about equality conditions that is not justified and is in fact false.

assumptions (3)

standard math Fact 1: the maximum entropy state with fixed mean energy E is the thermal state.
Invoked as Fact 1 and used to bound S(N(ρ)).
standard math The entropy of a channel is defined as -D[N || R^1] = inf S(A|R) (Eq. 4).
Taken from Refs. [28,29] as the definition of channel entropy.
ad hoc to paper S[N] = inf_ρ S(A)_{N(ρ)} if and only if N is a replacer channel.
Asserted without proof in the proof of Theorem 1; this statement is false, as shown by a measure-and-prepare channel with equal-entropy outputs.

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The maximum entropy principle, as applied to quantum systems, is a fundamental prescript positing that for a quantum system for which we only have partial knowledge, the maximum entropy state consistent with the partial knowledge is a valuable choice as the system's state. An intriguing result is that in case the only prior knowledge is of a fixed energy, the maximum entropy state turns out to be the thermal state, a ubiquitous state in several arenas, especially in statistical mechanics. We extend the consequences of this principle from static quantum states to dynamic quantum processes. We establish that a quantum channel attains maximal output entropy under a fixed energy constraint if and only if it is an absolutely thermalizing channel, where the fixed output is the thermal state corresponding to that energy. Our results have potential implications for understanding the informational and thermodynamic utility of quantum channels under physical constraints. As an application, we examine the consequences for private randomness distillation from fixed energy constrained quantum processes.

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