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No occurrence obstructions in geometric complexity theory

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The permanent versus determinant conjecture is a major problem in complexity theory that is equivalent to the separation of the complexity classes VP_{ws} and VNP. Mulmuley and Sohoni (SIAM J. Comput., 2001) suggested to study a strengthened version of this conjecture over the complex numbers that amounts to separating the orbit closures of the determinant and padded permanent polynomials. In that paper it was also proposed to separate these orbit closures by exhibiting occurrence obstructions, which are irreducible representations of GL_{n^2}(C), which occur in one coordinate ring of the orbit closure, but not in the other. We prove that this approach is impossible. However, we do not rule out the general approach to the permanent versus determinant problem via multiplicity obstructions as proposed by Mulmuley and Sohoni.

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Graph Isomorphism and Representation Theory

cs.CC · 2026-06-24 · unverdicted · novelty 7.0

Separating modules of support-degree k equate to O(k)-subgraph counts, those of symmetric circuit size n^Θ(k) equate to Θ(k)-WL, and their multiplicities equate to differing automorphism cycle indices.

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  • Graph Isomorphism and Representation Theory cs.CC · 2026-06-24 · unverdicted · none · ref 7 · internal anchor

    Separating modules of support-degree k equate to O(k)-subgraph counts, those of symmetric circuit size n^Θ(k) equate to Θ(k)-WL, and their multiplicities equate to differing automorphism cycle indices.