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Intermediate mass T Tauri disk masses and a comparison to their Herbig disk descendants

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Pith's one-line read Intermediate-mass T Tauri disks already match the masses and sizes of their Herbig descendants, implying planet formation is well underway early in disk life.

desk verdict A genuinely useful first ALMA census of IMTT disks, with a central equality claim that is plausible but overstated relative to the uncertainties. read the letter →

arxiv 2411.08953 v1 pith:GNAOLOB3 submitted 2024-11-13 astro-ph.EP astro-ph.SR

L. M. Stapper , M. R. Hogerheijde , E. F. van Dishoeck , M. Vioque , J. P. Williams , C. Ginski This is my paper · ORCID
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The reading

The paper asks whether the disks around Intermediate Mass T Tauri (IMTT) stars — the younger precursors of Herbig stars — already look like the Herbig disks they will become. Using archival ALMA observations of 34 IMTT disks, it finds that the dust mass distribution and the dust radius distribution are statistically indistinguishable from those of Herbig disks (Kolmogorov-Smirnov p-values of 0.962 and 0.860), while both are more massive in dust than T Tauri disks. Because the IMTT stars are younger, the authors conclude that planet formation, in particular the formation of massive planets that halt the inward drift of dust, is already well underway in these disks. This matters because it puts the start of giant planet formation within the first few million years of disk lifetime and implies that the mass and size regime of intermediate-mass planet-forming disks is set very early.

What carries the argument

The load-bearing comparison is the cumulative distribution of disk dust masses, built from the optically thin relation of Hildebrand (1983) with a single opacity law ($\kappa_\nu = 10\,\mathrm{cm^2\,g^{-1}}$ at 1000 GHz, $\beta=1$) and a dust temperature that scales as the fourth root of stellar luminosity (Andrews et al. 2013). The statistical workhorse is the Kolmogorov-Smirnov test, which yields p = 0.962 for the dust mass comparison and p = 0.860 for the radius comparison between IMTTs and Herbigs. Gas masses come from the DALI thermochemical model grid with CO isotopologue chemistry, after the authors verify that adding accretion UV to IMTT spectra reproduces the Herbig model grid. The interpretive mechanism that carries the evolutionary conclusion is the 'massive planet stops radial drift' scenario: a massive exoplanet halts the inward drift of dust, preserving the disk mass and radius, so the observed indistinguishability of IMTT and Herbig disks is read as evidence that such planets already exist in the younger disks.

What would settle it

Observe the same IMTT disks at a longer wavelength, e.g., ALMA Band 3 (~3 mm), where optical depth is lower; if the derived dust masses rise systematically relative to the Band 6/7 values by more than the expected spectral-index correction, the optically thin assumption fails and the IMTT-Herbig mass equality could be a conversion artifact rather than a physical similarity.

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Core claim

The central claim is that IMTT disks and Herbig disks are drawn from the same underlying population in dust mass and dust radius, even though the IMTT stars are younger. The paper measures continuum fluxes of 34 IMTT disks from ALMA archival data and converts them to dust masses with the optically thin relation $M_{\rm dust}=F_\nu d^2/[\kappa_\nu B_\nu(T_{\rm dust})]$, using $\kappa_\nu = 10\,\mathrm{cm^2\,g^{-1}}$ at 1000 GHz with $\beta=1$ and a luminosity-scaled temperature $T_{\rm dust}=25\,\mathrm{K}\,(L_\star/L_\odot)^{1/4}$. The cumulative dust mass distributions of IMTTs and Herbigs are indistinguishable (p = 0.962), as are the 90% dust radius distributions (p = 0.860), and the IMTTs sit above the T Tauri dust mass distribution, matching the Herbig behavior. For the 10 disks with detectable CO isotopologues, the gas masses are consistent with Herbig values, though slightly lower, which the authors attribute to shallow integrations. The paper concludes that the sampled IMTT disks are almost indistinguishable from Herbig disks and interprets this as evidence that massive planets have already formed and are stopping radial drift in these younger disks.

Load-bearing premise

The dust-mass comparison assumes the millimeter continuum is optically thin and converted with a single opacity law and a luminosity-scaled temperature; if IMTT disks are partially opaque or have different grain properties, the inferred masses — and therefore the equality with Herbig disks — could be biased.

Editorial extensions

If this is right

  • Disk surveys of IMTTs already sample the same dust mass and radius regime as Herbig disks, so the younger objects can stand in for their descendants in population studies.
  • Giant planet cores around intermediate-mass stars must form within the first few million years, since the disks that host them are already indistinguishable from the older Herbig population.
  • The absence of a group I (cavity-hosting, rising far-infrared slope) versus group II (full disk) dust mass difference in IMTTs, combined with its presence in Herbigs, implies that most intermediate-mass disks shrink quickly within the IMTT-to-Herbig age interval unless a massive planet halts radial drift.
  • Comparing disk dust masses with exoplanet heavy-element masses shows there is not enough dust to build the observed massive planets at 100% efficiency, while gas masses exceed what is needed for their atmospheres, so planet cores must already exist and envelope accretion may still be ongoing.

Reading between the lines

Editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • A direct test of the mass-equality claim is multi-wavelength photometry: if IMTT disks are partially optically thick at 1.3 mm, their true dust masses would be higher than reported, and the apparent equality with Herbig disks could reflect a shared conversion bias rather than physical similarity.
  • The evolutionary story predicts that group I IMTT disks should preferentially host massive planets; deep high-resolution imaging or radial-velocity monitoring of those objects would test whether the 'planet stops radial drift' mechanism is really in place.
  • If the early-formation conclusion is right, an even younger sample of intermediate-mass Class I/0 objects should still show a similar mass-radius relation, whereas a clear rise in mass toward younger ages would contradict the claim that IMTT disks are already final.
  • A complete volume-limited millimeter survey of intermediate-mass pre-main-sequence stars would clarify whether the IMTT sample, selected partly by infrared excess and high accretion, is biased toward the survivors of rapid disk evolution.
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Summary. The paper compiles ALMA Band 6/7 archival data for 35 intermediate-mass T Tauri (IMTT) stars and compares their derived dust masses, dust radii, and CO-based gas masses with Herbig disks and T Tauri disks. Dust masses are computed from Eq. (1) under the optically thin assumption with a fixed opacity law and a luminosity-scaled dust temperature, Eq. (2); gas masses are obtained by matching 13CO and C18O luminosities to DALI thermochemical models from a previous Herbig disk study. The central result is that IMTT disks have statistically indistinguishable dust mass and radius distributions from Herbig disks, while being more massive than T Tauri disks; no group I/II dust mass difference is found for IMTTs. From this, the authors conclude that planet formation must already be well underway in IMTT disks and that most intermediate-mass disks converge rapidly to small/compact disks unless a massive exoplanet halts radial drift. A comparison with exoplanet masses suggests that cores are already formed while envelope accretion may still be ongoing.

Significance. If the result holds, it is significant: it would establish that the disk mass and size regime of Herbig disks is already present in their younger IMTT precursors, placing a strong constraint on the timescale of giant planet core formation and on rapid disk evolution around intermediate-mass stars. The paper is careful in several respects: it uses published archival data, applies consistent reduction, gives a model-applicability test for the CO-based gas masses (Section 3), and uses survival-analysis techniques for censored distributions. The comparison samples are drawn from the same group, reducing some selection differences. However, the central dust mass comparison rests on a conversion that the authors themselves acknowledge may be biased by optical depth and opacity effects, and the statistical test for equality may not fully account for censored data; these issues need to be addressed before the conclusion can be considered robust.

major comments (2)
  1. [§4.3, Eq. (1)-(2)] The central claim that IMTT and Herbig disks have the same dust mass distribution depends on Eq. (1) with a fixed dust opacity (κν = 10 cm2/g at 1000 GHz, β = 1) and Eq. (2) for a luminosity-scaled dust temperature, both of which assume optically thin emission. The authors themselves state in §4.4 that the high gas-to-dust ratios 'could indicate that either the assumption of optically thin emission does not hold, or that the assumed dust opacity is incorrect,' and they cite published work showing dust masses underestimated by up to a factor of ~7. Because IMTT disks are younger and potentially denser than Herbig disks, these biases could affect the two samples differently, making the observed equality a conversion artifact rather than a physical similarity. I ask for a quantitative differential test: for example, estimate continuum optical depths from peak brightness temperatures relative to the assumed dust temperature, compare with longer-wavelength data, or perform a sensitivity analysis varying κν, β, and Tdust systematically, and show that the inferred mass distributions remain consistent.
  2. [§4.3, Kolmogorov-Smirnov test] The two-sample KS test reported with p = 0.962 is implemented with scipy, which does not handle censored data. The IMTT sample contains multiple non-detections that are reported as upper limits in Table 2 (e.g., Ass ChaT2-21, Ass ChaT2-54, Brun 656, CO Ori, HBC 442, HBC 502, RY Ori). If the KS test is applied only to detections, as appears to be the case, the reported p-value ignores a substantial fraction of the sample and could overstate the similarity. The same issue affects the radius comparison in Fig. 7 and the group I/II comparison in Fig. 11, where several radii are upper limits. Please use a two-sample test that properly incorporates censoring (e.g., a log-rank test or a Peto-Prentice test) and report the result.
minor comments (4)
  1. [Title and abstract] The title contains a typo: 'T auri' should be 'T Tauri'. The abstract states 34 IMTT disks with continuum observations, while Section 2 and Section 6 state 35; please reconcile.
  2. [§4.4, Fig. 9] The gas mass comparison rests on only 10 objects and the authors note that the upper limits for the remaining IMTTs are not constraining. This limitation should be stated more prominently, in the abstract and conclusions, since the gas-to-dust ratio and exoplanet atmosphere arguments depend on this small sample.
  3. [Fig. 3 and §4.4] Axis labels in Fig. 3 and the values quoted in §4.4 (e.g., Log10(Mdisk) = -1.88 ± 0.87) lack explicit units; they should state M_sun.
  4. [§5.2] The exoplanet comparison combines IMTT and Herbig disks into one sample and normalizes the planet mass distribution using occurrence rates over periods of 80-3600 days; the mismatch between orbital periods traced by planets and total disk mass reservoirs is acknowledged but could be stated more explicitly as a caveat in the text.

Circularity Check

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No significant circularity; the IMTT/Herbig mass and radius comparison is a flux-based empirical comparison, and the reused DALI grid is validated rather than assumed.

full rationale

The paper's central comparison derives IMTT dust masses from archival ALMA fluxes using the standard optically thin formula (Eq. 1) with fixed opacity and a luminosity-scaled dust temperature (Eq. 2), then compares these to Herbig disk masses obtained the same way in prior work. The resulting similarity of the distributions is not forced by construction: it depends on measured fluxes, distances, and stellar luminosities, so the KS p-value of 0.962 is an empirical outcome. The gas masses use the S24 DALI grid, but Section 3 explicitly tests whether an IMTT-specific effective temperature and accretion UV change the CO luminosity mapping, and finds that with accretion UV the distribution returns to Herbig levels; the same grid is then adopted only after this check. The self-citations to Stapper et al. (2022, 2024) are dependencies on published data and a published thermochemical grid, not circular reductions: no parameter is fit to the target distribution and then renamed a prediction. The four objects that appear in both the IMTT and Herbig samples slightly reduce the independence of the comparison, but the bulk of the samples are distinct and the equality is not a tautology. Section 4.4 candidly notes that the inferred dust masses could be underestimated by up to a factor of about 7 if the optically thin assumption or the adopted opacity is wrong; this is a calibration and correctness risk, not a circularity in the derivation chain.

Assumptions & free parameters 4 free parameters · 7 assumptions · 0 invented entities

The paper introduces no new entities. Its central quantitative claims rest on standard but unverified systematic assumptions: optically thin dust emission, a fixed opacity law, luminosity-only dust temperatures, and representativeness of an archival sample. These assumptions are acknowledged in the text but not propagated into the reported uncertainties.

free parameters (4)
  • Dust opacity normalization kappa_1000 GHz = 10 cm2 g-1
    Adopted from Beckwith et al. (1990); converts flux to mass in Eq. 1, systematic uncertainty not propagated.
  • Dust opacity spectral index beta = 1
    Assumed single power-law index for all disks in Eq. 1.
  • Dust temperature normalization = 25 K x (L*/Lsun)^(1/4)
    Adopted from Andrews et al. (2013); sets Tdust in Eq. 2 and enters Mdust linearly.
  • Accretion luminosity for IMTT model checks = 1.5 Lsun
    Median from Calvet et al. (2004) and Wichittanakom et al. (2020), used to validate that the Herbig DALI grid applies to IMTTs.
assumptions (7)
  • domain assumption Millimeter continuum emission from the disks is optically thin at Band 6/7.
    Invoked in Eq. 1 (Hildebrand 1983); the paper later notes dust masses may be underestimated by up to a factor of ~7 if this fails.
  • domain assumption A single dust opacity law holds across all IMTT and Herbig disks.
    Eq. 1 with kappa_nu = 10 cm2/g at 1000 GHz and beta = 1; differences in grain properties would change derived masses.
  • domain assumption Dust temperature is set only by stellar luminosity through Tdust = 25 K (L*/Lsun)^1/4.
    Eq. 2; ignores radial temperature gradients, optical depth, and accretion heating.
  • domain assumption The S24 Herbig DALI model grid can be applied to IMTT disks.
    Section 3 argues via new model runs with IMTT effective temperatures and accretion UV that C18O luminosities match Herbig levels.
  • domain assumption The archival IMTT sample is representative of the full IMTT population.
    Section 2 checks stellar parameters and 30 micron excess against Valegard et al. (2021), but notes both IMTT and Herbig samples are biased toward bright disks.
  • domain assumption Heavy-element mass of exoplanets equals the dust mass required to form them.
    Section 5.2 uses Thorngren et al. (2016) to split planetary mass into core and atmosphere; the core mass is compared to disk dust mass.
  • domain assumption CO isotopologue luminosities trace total gas mass through the DALI grid.
    Section 4.4; gas masses are model-dependent and only 10 of 35 disks have determined values.

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The precursors of Herbig stars are called Intermediate Mass T Tauri (IMTT) stars, which have spectral types later than F, but stellar masses between 1.5 and 5 M_\odot, and will eventually become Herbig stars with spectral types of A and B. ALMA Band 6 and 7 archival data are obtained for 34 IMTT disks with continuum observations, 32 of which have at least 12CO, 13CO, or C18O observations although most of them at quite shallow integrations. The disk integrated flux together with a stellar luminosity scaled disk temperature are used to obtain a total disk dust mass by assuming optically thin emission. Using thermochemical Dust And LInes (DALI) models from previous work, we additionally obtain gas masses of 10/35 of the IMTT disks based on the CO isotopologues. The IMTT disks in this study have the same dust mass and radius distributions as Herbig disks. The dust mass of the IMTT disks is higher compared to that of the T Tauri disks, as is also found for the Herbig disks. No differences in dust mass are found for group I versus group II disks, in contrast to Herbig disks. The disks for which a gas mass could be determined show similar high mass disks as for the Herbig disks. Comparing the disk dust and gas mass distributions to the mass distribution of exoplanets shows that there also is not enough dust mass in disks around intermediate mass stars to form the massive exoplanets. On the other hand there is more than enough gas to form the atmospheres of exoplanets. We conclude that the sampled IMTT disk population is almost indistinguishable compared to Herbig disks, as their disk masses are the same, even though these are younger objects. Based on this, we conclude that planet formation is already well on its way in these objects, and thus planet formation should start early on in the lifetime of Herbig disks.

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Figure 1
Figure 1. An HR-diagram of the Herbig star sample of [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p004_1.png] view at source ↗
Figure 2
Figure 2. Histogram of the spectral types (left panel) and stellar masses (right panel) of the IMTTs in this work (from [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p005_2.png] view at source ↗
Figure 3
Figure 3. Histogram of the disk integrated C18O luminosities of models run by the thermochemical code DALI for three different disk masses, as indicated in the top left of each panel. A comparison is done between the models used by S24 (gray), and models for which the stellar effective temperature has been lowered to an IMTT appropriate value either with (red) or without (blue) accretion UV added. The lower effective temperat… view at source ↗
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Figure 4
Figure 4. Figure 4: Continuum images of Intermediate Mass T Tauri disks with a detection, using a sinh stretch. The size of the [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p008_4.png]
Figure 5
Figure 5. Figure 5: 12CO, 13CO, and C18O velocity integrated-intensity maps as obtained with Keplerian masking for all IMTTs which have a detection in at least one of the three isotopologues. An empty panel indicates that no observations are available of that particular isotopologue. the …
Figure 6
Figure 6. Figure 6: Dust mass distributions of the IMTTs, Herbig disks ( [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p010_6.png]
Figure 7
Figure 7. Figure 7: Cumulative distributions of the 90% dust radii of the [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p010_7.png]
Figure 8
Figure 8. Figure 8: 13CO and C18O disk integrated luminosities for transitions J = 2−1 (left panel) and J = 3−2 (right panel). The colors correspond to the DALI models from S24, while the black markers correspond to the observations. The vertical line in the left panel indicates the 13CO …
Figure 9
Figure 9. Figure 9: The resulting gas masses obtained from the models of [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p012_9.png]
Figure 10
Figure 10. Figure 10: Dust and gas 90% radii of the IMTT disks (red) [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p013_10.png]
Figure 11
Figure 11. Figure 11: Dust cumulative distributions of the group I and [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p013_11.png]
Figure 12
Figure 12. Figure 12: Comparing the dust and gas mass cumulative dis [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p014_12.png]

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