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Echo: Simulating Distributed Training At Scale

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arxiv 2412.12487 v1 pith:L5U5XIW7 submitted 2024-12-17 cs.LG cs.DC

classification cs.LGcs.DC
keywords trainingdeviceechosimulationcommunicationcomputationdistributedlarge-scale
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Simulation offers unique values for both enumeration and extrapolation purposes, and is becoming increasingly important for managing the massive machine learning (ML) clusters and large-scale distributed training jobs. In this paper, we build Echo to tackle three key challenges in large-scale training simulation: (1) tracing the runtime training workloads at each device in an ex-situ fashion so we can use a single device to obtain the actual execution graphs of 1K-GPU training, (2) accurately estimating the collective communication without high overheads of discrete-event based network simulation, and (3) accounting for the interference-induced computation slowdown from overlapping communication and computation kernels on the same device. Echo delivers on average 8% error in training step -- roughly 3x lower than state-of-the-art simulators -- for GPT-175B on a 96-GPU H800 cluster with 3D parallelism on Megatron-LM under 2 minutes.

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