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arxiv: 2504.16465 · v1 · submitted 2025-04-23 · ✦ hep-th

Octonions, complex structures and Standard Model fermions

Kirill Krasnov This is my paper

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keywords octonionspure spinorsSpin(10)Standard Model gauge groupcomplex structuresgrand unificationsymmetry breakingrepresentation theory
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The Standard Model gauge group inside Spin(10) is selected by two orthogonal pure spinors whose sum is also pure.

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The paper explains how the symmetry breaking from Spin(10) grand unification down to the Standard Model gauge group can be understood through two commuting complex structures on ten-dimensional space. These structures are captured by a pair of pure spinors that must be orthogonal and have a sum that is itself pure. The octonionic model supplies the most efficient way to describe and manipulate these spinors and the associated fermion representations. A sympathetic reader would care because the construction turns an algebraic subgroup selection into a concrete geometric condition on spinors. This supplies a direct translation of an earlier characterisation of the Standard Model subgroup rather than a new derivation of the embedding itself.

Core claim

The symmetry breaking required to obtain G_SM can be seen to rely on two suitably aligned commuting complex structures on R^10. The required complex structures can in turn be encoded in a pair of pure spinors of Spin(10). The condition that the complex structures are commuting and suitably aligned translates into the requirement that the respective pure spinors are orthogonal and that their sum is again a pure spinor. The most efficient description of spinors, and in particular pure spinors of Spin(10), is via the octonionic model.

What carries the argument

A pair of orthogonal pure spinors of Spin(10) whose sum is pure, which encode two suitably aligned commuting complex structures on R^10 that characterise the Standard Model subgroup.

If this is right

  • The fermion representations of the Standard Model arise directly as those compatible with the chosen pair of complex structures on the ten-dimensional space.
  • Computations involving the pure spinors and the resulting symmetry breaking become more tractable once the octonionic description is adopted.
  • The same spinor-pair condition can be applied to other subgroups of Spin(10) to test whether they admit similar geometric characterisations.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • The construction hints at a possible dictionary between octonionic geometry and the selection of realistic gauge groups in higher-dimensional unification models.
  • One could examine whether analogous pairs of pure spinors exist for other grand-unified groups such as Spin(11) or E6 to see if the pattern generalises.

Load-bearing premise

The characterisation of the Standard Model gauge group G_SM as a subgroup of Spin(10) developed in earlier work is taken as given, and the paper supplies only the spinor and octonionic translation of that characterisation.

What would settle it

A demonstration that two commuting complex structures on R^10 select the Standard Model subgroup but cannot be represented by a pair of orthogonal pure spinors whose sum is pure would falsify the claimed translation.

read the original abstract

This article is a write-up of the talk given in one of the mini-symposia of the 2024 European Congress of Mathematicians. I will explain some basics of the representation theory underlying Spin(10) and SU(5) Grand Unified Theories. I will also explain the characterisation of the Standard Model gauge group G_SM as a subgroup of Spin(10) that was developed in [1]. Thus, the symmetry breaking required to obtain G_SM can be seen to rely on two suitably aligned commuting complex structures on R10. The required complex structures can in turn be encoded in a pair of pure spinors of Spin(10). The condition that the complex structures are commuting and suitably aligned translates into the requirement that the respective pure spinors are orthogonal and that their sum is again a pure spinor. The most efficient description of spinors, and in particular pure spinors of Spin(10) is via the octonionic model of the latter, and this is how octonions enter the story.

Editorial analysis

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Referee Report

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Summary. The manuscript is an expository write-up of a conference talk that reviews the representation theory of Spin(10) and SU(5) GUTs. It recasts the characterization of the Standard Model gauge group G_SM inside Spin(10), originally developed in reference [1], in terms of two suitably aligned commuting complex structures on R^{10}. These structures are encoded by a pair of orthogonal pure spinors of Spin(10) whose sum is again pure, with the octonionic model providing the most efficient description of the relevant spinors.

Significance. If the imported characterization from [1] holds, the paper supplies a geometrically transparent spinorial and octonionic translation of the symmetry-breaking pattern from Spin(10) to G_SM. This perspective may facilitate further work connecting pure spinors, complex structures, and octonionic algebra to fermion representations in GUTs, while inheriting its security from standard facts in Spin(10) representation theory and the cited prior work.

minor comments (3)
  1. [Abstract and §1] The abstract and introduction could more explicitly flag that the central characterization of G_SM is taken from reference [1] rather than re-derived, to set reader expectations for an expository treatment.
  2. [§3] Notation for the two complex structures J1 and J2 on R^{10} and their encoding via pure spinors could be introduced with one explicit low-dimensional example or matrix representation to aid readers unfamiliar with the octonionic model.
  3. [Conclusion] A short concluding paragraph summarizing the translation from complex-structure conditions to the orthogonality and purity conditions on the spinors would improve readability for a broad mathematical-physics audience.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

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We thank the referee for their positive summary of the manuscript, recognition of its expository nature as a conference talk write-up, and recommendation for minor revision. We appreciate the acknowledgment that the geometric perspective via pure spinors and octonions offers a transparent translation of the Spin(10) to G_SM symmetry-breaking pattern, building on the characterization in reference [1].

Circularity Check

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full rationale

The manuscript is an expository write-up of a conference talk that restates the characterisation of G_SM inside Spin(10) developed in reference [1] and recasts it in the language of two commuting complex structures on R^{10} encoded by a pair of orthogonal pure spinors whose sum is again pure. The octonionic model is invoked only as the most efficient description of those spinors. No new subgroup embedding is derived, no claimed result reduces to a fitted parameter or to a quantity defined by the authors' own prior equations, and the central claims inherit their security directly from the cited prior work together with standard facts about pure spinors of Spin(10). The derivation chain is therefore self-contained against external benchmarks.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

0 free parameters · 1 axioms · 0 invented entities

The paper relies on standard facts from Spin(10) representation theory and the octonionic model of spinors; no new free parameters, ad-hoc axioms, or invented entities are introduced in the abstract.

axioms (1)
  • standard math Standard facts of Spin(10) representation theory and the existence of pure spinors are assumed as background.
    Invoked when describing the encoding of complex structures in pure spinors.

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