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Ground-V: Teaching VLMs to Ground Complex Instructions in Pixels
T0 review · 3 major / 6 minor · reviewed 2026-08-15 · deepseek-v4-flash
Pith's one-line read The paper claims that training with Ground-V, a 500K-pair dataset of automatically generated instruction-segmentation examples spanning five challenge dimensions, substantially improves pixel-level grounding of vision-language models…
desk verdict Large, well-curated grounding dataset, but the headline SOTA results rest on likely train/eval image overlap between Ground-V (COCO 2017) and RefCOCO/gRefCOCO (COCO 2014) — the paper needs deduplication and re-evaluation before the benchmark claims can be trusted. read the letter →
The pith
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
The reading
What carries the argument
The machinery is the Ground-V data-generation pipeline. For each of five challenge dimensions, the authors hand-craft a three-shot prompt (image, instruction, answer) and query a teacher vision-language model to generate new instruction-response pairs that are then linked to existing pixel-level annotations, mainly from COCO 2017 and the PACO part annotations, preserving the original segmentation masks as supervision. Hallucination examples are deliberately assigned empty masks and text-only explanations so a correct model should abstain from producing a mask. The evaluation set is generated with the same workflow but then filtered through a judge model and two independent human annotators, retaining only pairs both annotators confirm. This pipeline is what carries the argument: it converts abundant existing masks into complex, nuanced instruction data at scale with minimal human cost.
What would settle it
Compute the image-ID intersection between the Ground-V training set (together with the COCO-based data it augments) and the test and validation splits of RefCOCO, RefCOCO+, RefCOCOg, and gRefCOCO; then retrain the same LISA and PSALM configurations on the deduplicated version of Ground-V and compare the gIoU and N-Acc numbers with the reported ones. If the gains shrink substantially after removing overlapping images, the headline improvements are at least partly due to training/test image leakage.
Extended reading notes
Core claim
On the paper's own terms, the central discovery is that scaling instruction-following data with a teacher-driven generation workflow elicits pixel-level grounding that existing training sets fail to provide. Concretely, the authors claim that augmenting the standard training mixtures of LISA and PSALM with Ground-V immediately improves grounding accuracy across six benchmarks, and that the resulting models surpass previous state of the art on RefCOCO, RefCOCO+, RefCOCOg, and gRefCOCO without requiring architectural changes. The most striking single number is a gRefCOCO N-Acc of 83.3%, exceeding the previous state of the art by more than 20 percentage points, which the paper attributes to the hallucination-mitigation portion of Ground-V.
Load-bearing premise
The evaluation results assume that the images used to build Ground-V (COCO 2017 train and val) are disjoint from the images used in the RefCOCO/+/g and gRefCOCO evaluation splits, and the paper does not report any deduplication between them; if those photographs overlap, the reported gains could partly reflect test images already seen during training.
Editorial extensions
If this is right
- Training on Ground-V directly improves two differently architected segmentation VLMs, LISA and PSALM, with average gIoU gains of 4.4% and 7.9% across six benchmarks.
- Ground-V-trained PSALM reaches an N-Acc of 83.3% on gRefCOCO, exceeding the previous state of the art by more than 20 points, indicating substantially better abstention when instructed objects are absent.
- The hallucination subset, being text-only, can be dropped into general visual instruction tuning: the reported results on POPE, Vizwiz, MMBench, and SciQA show consistent improvements for a generalist VLM.
- The model's performance is robust to rephrasing of the reasoning instructions, suggesting the gains reflect understanding rather than overfitting to one language style.
- Data scaling within Ground-V shows monotonic improvement from 25% to 100% of the dataset, supporting the paper's data-centric scaling hypothesis.
Reading between the lines
- The caption-level overlap between COCO 2017 training images and COCO 2014 benchmark images is unresolved, so the headline gains should be treated as an upper bound until the authors report deduplication statistics.
- Because the hallucination subset is text-only, it could be mixed into any visual instruction-tuning pipeline; the paper tests only one generalist VLM, but the abstention behavior may transfer to other models with similar tuning.
- The ablation finding that hallucination training slightly reduces fine-grained recall suggests a tunable trade-off between abstention and sensitivity, so application-specific mixes of the five subsets could yield a family of models.
- The zero-shot gain on MUSE hints that the multi-object and reasoning subsets encode transferable skills; testing PSALM-G5 on additional unseen referring benchmarks would clarify how far the dataset generalizes.
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Editorial analysis
A structured set of objections, weighed in public.
Referee Report
Summary. The paper introduces Ground-V, a dataset of roughly 481K automatically generated instruction-segmentation pairs covering five challenges: multi-granularity, multi-object scenes, hallucinated references, part-level references, and reasoning-driven segmentation. The data is produced by prompting Claude 3 Sonnet to link natural language instructions to existing COCO annotations, with a smaller human-annotated test partition. The authors train two existing VLM segmentation models, LISA and PSALM, with Ground-V added to their standard training data, and report consistent gains on RefCOCO/+/g, gRefCOCO, D3, and the internal Ground-V test set, including new state-of-the-art results on gRefCOCO. The central claim is that this data-centric workflow substantially improves pixel-level grounding under complex instructions, with average gIoU gains of 4.4% for LISA and 7.9% for PSALM across six benchmarks.
Significance. If the empirical results are valid, the paper makes a useful data-centric contribution: the Ground-V dataset expands beyond simple referring expressions, and the evaluation across two model families with human-annotated test data is a strength. The authors also include a rephrasing robustness check and a general-VQA transfer experiment, which are thoughtful additions. However, the significance is contingent on resolving a serious train/eval image-overlap risk between the Ground-V training images (COCO 2017 train+val) and the public benchmark test images (built from COCO 2014), which the paper does not address. The internal test set also shares its generation pipeline with the training set, raising a circularity concern that is only partially mitigated. Because the headline SOTA and improvement claims depend on these evaluations, the current version does not fully support its central conclusions.
major comments (3)
- [Section 3.2 and Section 4.1] The paper states in Section 3.2 that Ground-V uses COCO 2017 train and validation splits as its image source, while the public benchmarks evaluated in Section 4.1 (RefCOCO/+/g and gRefCOCO) are built from COCO 2014 images. Since COCO 2017 train contains most COCO 2014 images, including much of the COCO 2014 validation set, the same photographs can appear in both Ground-V training and the benchmark test sets. The paper never reports any image-level deduplication against RefCOCO/+/g, gRefCOCO, or D3. With mask supervision on the exact test images, a model could exploit familiarity with object layouts and masks, inflating the cIoU/gIoU/N-Acc numbers in Tables 3, 4, and 6. Please provide a concrete overlap analysis (e.g., image hash or file-name comparison) and, if any overlap exists, retrain on a deduplicated Ground-V training set and re-report all benchmark results. This is necessary to support the headline claims of 4.4%/7.9% average improvements and state-of-the-art results.
- [Section 3.2 and Section 4.2, Table 7] The Ground-V test set is generated using the same Claude-based workflow as the training set, so large gains on that test set (Table 5) may partly reflect the model learning the teacher's instruction style and answer distribution rather than independent capability. The rephrasing experiment in Table 7, which is meant to address this, covers only the reasoning subset; the multi-granular, multi-object, hallucination, and part-reference subsets are not tested. Please extend the rephrasing robustness check to all five subsets, or provide a separate externally written evaluation set of comparable complexity, so the internal test results can be interpreted as evidence of general task ability rather than style matching.
- [Section 4.2, Figure 5] The scaling analysis in Figure 5 demonstrates that increasing the amount of Ground-V data improves performance on the Ground-V test set, but it does not isolate whether the gains are due to the content of the five addressed challenges or simply to adding a large volume of segmentation pairs. Please include a control experiment that trains on an equivalent volume of generic referring-expression data (for example, a randomly selected set of existing RefCOCO/RefCOCO+ training pairs of the same size) and report the resulting gains on the same benchmarks. Without such a control, the attribution of the improvements to the complex-instruction workflow is not fully supported.
minor comments (6)
- [Abstract and Tables 1-2] The abstract and introduction describe Ground-V as a 500K-pair dataset, while Table 1 reports 481K pairs and Table 2 totals 481,406 instruction pairs. Please reconcile these numbers by stating the exact count and explaining the rounding.
- [Table 4] The row for “PSALM (ft)” in Table 4 appears to have a formatting error: the first three entries read “-69.378.3 -”, which is ambiguous. Please clarify the intended values (or missing entries) for gIoU, cIoU, and N-Acc on the validation split.
- [Section 3.2 and Table 5] The paper states that the training set contains 50,000 images and the test set contains 5,000 images, but it does not explicitly describe how the test images are guaranteed to be disjoint from the training images. The Table 5 caption calls the test set “disjoint”; please specify the selection protocol that ensures no image-level overlap between the two partitions.
- [Section 4.2, footnote 4] Footnote 4 contains the typo “incorprated”; it should be “incorporated.”
- [Section 4.2, Table 7] The rephrasing experiment uses Qwen2-VL to paraphrase instructions, but no details are given about how the paraphrases were validated to preserve the original meaning and expected segmentation targets. Please describe the validation process for the rephrased instructions.
- [General] The paper does not state whether the Ground-V dataset and any associated code will be made publicly available. A data and code availability statement would be important for reproducibility and for the community to use the dataset.
Circularity Check
Internal Ground-V evaluation is self-referential because training and test prompts are generated by the same Claude workflow, but the external benchmarks keep the central claim partially independent.
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self definitional
[Section 3.2, 'Detailed Data Generation Process'; Section 4.2, 'Generalization Beyond Language Priors']
"This process is applied to generate both the training and evaluation sets. ... Since both the training and evaluation data in Ground-V are generated using the same workflow, we assess whether the performance improvements are due to overfitting to a consistent language style."
The Ground-V training and test instruction-response pairs are both produced by the same teacher model (Claude 3 Sonnet) with the same manually crafted few-shot prompts. The internal test set is therefore drawn from the same distribution of instruction wording, answer format, object categories, and challenge taxonomy that the model is trained on. Performance on the Ground-V test set (Table 5) thus partly measures distribution matching to the generation pipeline, not independently established complex-instruction grounding. The paper's rephrasing check (Table 7) covers only the reasoning subset, so it does not remove this dependency for the other four challenges.
full rationale
The paper's core empirical claim is that adding Ground-V to training improves pixel-level grounding. This claim is substantially supported by external benchmarks that are not generated by the authors: RefCOCO/+/g, gRefCOCO, D3, ReasonSeg, and MUSE. For example, PSALM-G5 raises gRefCOCO N-Acc from 24.5 to 83.7, a large independent signal that the training data teaches abstention and generalized referring segmentation. These external results prevent the central claim from reducing to a self-consistent construction. The only genuinely self-referential element is the internal Ground-V test set, which is generated with the same Claude-based workflow as the training set. The paper itself acknowledges this and attempts a mitigation by rephrasing instructions on the reasoning subset; the results are stable, but the check covers only one of the five challenge dimensions and leaves the underlying task distribution unchanged. Therefore the internal evaluation scores are partly inflated by distribution matching, and the paper's use of those scores as evidence of general capability is partially circular. The COCO-2017/2014 image overlap concern raised in the review is a data-contamination and correctness issue, not a circularity of derivation; it is outside the scope of this circularity analysis. There is no load-bearing self-citation, no imported uniqueness theorem, and no ansatz smuggled through citations. Overall circularity is moderate and localized to the internal benchmark, so the score is 4 rather than higher.
Assumptions & free parameters
assumptions (3)
- domain assumption Claude 3 Sonnet, prompted with a few-shot demonstration, generates instruction-answer pairs that are correctly linked to the given segmentation masks.
- domain assumption COCO 2017 and PACO segmentation masks provide adequate ground-truth supervision for all five challenge types.
- domain assumption The images used to build the Ground-V training set are disjoint from the images in the RefCOCO/+/g and gRefCOCO evaluation splits.
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read the original abstract
This work presents a simple yet effective workflow for automatically scaling instruction-following data to elicit pixel-level grounding capabilities of VLMs under complex instructions. In particular, we address five critical real-world challenges in text-instruction-based grounding: hallucinated references, multi-object scenarios, reasoning, multi-granularity, and part-level references. By leveraging knowledge distillation from a pre-trained teacher model, our approach generates high-quality instruction-response pairs linked to existing pixel-level annotations, minimizing the need for costly human annotation. The resulting dataset, Ground-V, captures rich object localization knowledge and nuanced pixel-level referring expressions. Experiment results show that models trained on Ground-V exhibit substantial improvements across diverse grounding tasks. Specifically, incorporating Ground-V during training directly achieves an average accuracy boost of 4.4% for LISA and a 7.9% for PSALM across six benchmarks on the gIoU metric. It also sets new state-of-the-art results on standard benchmarks such as RefCOCO/+/g. Notably, on gRefCOCO, we achieve an N-Acc of 83.3%, exceeding the previous state-of-the-art by more than 20%.
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Example: ”Corgi,” ”Macbook,” ”SUV”
Fine-grained Level: Combines the specific instance and subcategory levels. Example: ”Corgi,” ”Macbook,” ”SUV”
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Example: ”Dog,” ”Computer,” ”Car”
General Category Level: Standard categories of objects. Example: ”Dog,” ”Computer,” ”Car”
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Abstract Level: Broad, overarching categories. Example: ”Animal,” ”Electronic Device,” ”Transportation” Few-shot Examples: **Image 1 - Given objects: fish, dog - fine-grained labels: [”gold fish”, ”corgi”] **Image 2 - Present objects: laptop, container, box - ”fine-grained lab...
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The answer must reference the given object class or its equivalent and should not imply other potential objects
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(2) text answer: it should be one or a few coherent sentences connecting the objects in (1) that answer the question
You will output two forms of answers: (1) objects: it contains the objects required to answer the question, each object should be in a form of object at [bounding box]. (2) text answer: it should be one or a few coherent sentences connecting the objects in (1) that answer the ...
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