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Particle motions and gravitational waveforms in rotating black hole spacetimes of loop quantum gravity

Yang Yang, Yong-Zhuang Li, Yu Han, Yu-Xuan Bai

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The LQG holonomy correction parameter ξ enlarges deviations from Kerr gravitational waveforms in rotating black hole spacetimes, with stronger effects for type BH-II than BH-I.

A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.

The paper examines how the loop quantum gravity correction parameter ξ alters horizon structure, timelike geodesic orbits, and gravitational wave emission in two rotating black hole models (BH-I and BH-II) built from spherical LQG seeds via the Newman-Janis algorithm. It maps an admissible range for ξ that shrinks with increasing spin a, then shows that ξ and a act antagonistically on orbital parameters: ξ widens bound energies for equatorial orbits while narrowing the Carter constant range for off-equatorial ones. Leading-order post-Newtonian waveforms for extreme-mass-ratio inspirals reveal that larger ξ produces greater departures from Kerr signals, more pronounced in the BH-II model. Adiabatic inspiral evolution confirms that ξ can accelerate or retard the decay depending on its size relative to a, though the resulting strains lie below current detector sensitivities for the masses and distance considered.

Core claim

In the two rotating LQG black hole spacetimes, increasing the holonomy-correction parameter ξ at fixed spin enlarges the bound energy range of equatorial periodic orbits, suppresses the allowed Carter constant for off-equatorial motion, and drives adiabatic inspiral evolution in the direction opposite to the spin parameter a; the resulting leading-order post-Newtonian waveforms deviate from Kerr predictions with an amplitude that grows with ξ and is larger for the BH-II metric than for the BH-I metric.

What carries the argument

The holonomy-correction parameter ξ in the two rotating metrics (BH-I and BH-II) generated by the Newman-Janis algorithm from distinct spherically symmetric LQG seed solutions.

Load-bearing premise

The physically admissible range of ξ is set by simultaneously requiring the existence of event horizons, marginally bound orbits, and innermost stable circular orbits.

What would settle it

Detection of an EMRI waveform from a 10^7 solar-mass central black hole and 10 solar-mass companion at 200 Mpc that shows no greater deviation from the Kerr waveform than the Kerr case itself, in the 0.001–0.1 Hz band, would falsify the prediction of enhanced deviations for admissible nonzero ξ.

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We study the influence of the loop quantum gravity (LQG) holonomy-correction parameter $\xi$ on black hole horizon structure, timelike geodesic motion, and gravitational wave emission in two rotating LQG-inspired black hole spacetimes, constructed via Newman-Janis algorithm from two distinct spherically symmetric seed metrics (type BH-I and BH-II). The physically admissible range of $\xi$ is determined by requiring the existence of event horizons, marginally bound orbits, and innermost stable circular orbits simultaneously, and is found to shrink monotonically with increasing spin parameter $a$. For equatorial periodic orbits, increasing $\xi$ at fixed angular momentum enlarges the bound energy range, while for off-equatorial orbits, it suppresses the allowed range of the Carter constant, effectively confining trajectories closer to the equatorial plane. The effects of $\xi$ and $a$ on orbital dynamics are systematically antagonistic. Gravitational waveforms computed within a leading-order post-Newtonian extreme-mass-ratio inspiral (EMRI) model show that larger $\xi$ produces enhanced deviations from the Kerr waveform, more prominently so for type BH-II than type BH-I. The resulting characteristic strains occupy the $(10^{-3}, 0.1)$ Hz frequency band but fall below the sensitivity curves of current and near-future space-based detectors for the EMRI parameters considered ($M=10^7 M_\odot$, $m=10 M_\odot$, $D_L = 200$ Mpc). Adiabatic inspiral calculations confirm that $\xi$ and $a$ drive orbital evolution in opposite directions, with their relative magnitude determining whether quantum corrections accelerate or retard the inspiral. These results establish systematic observational signatures of holonomy corrections in rotating LQG black holes and motivate higher-fidelity waveform modeling for future space-based gravitational wave detectors.

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Referee Report

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Summary. The manuscript studies the effects of the LQG holonomy-correction parameter ξ on two rotating black hole spacetimes (BH-I and BH-II) obtained via the Newman-Janis algorithm from distinct spherically symmetric seeds. It fixes the admissible ξ range by simultaneous existence of event horizons, marginally bound orbits, and ISCOs (which shrinks with spin a), examines equatorial and off-equatorial timelike geodesics (showing antagonistic ξ–a effects on bound energies and Carter constants), and computes gravitational waveforms and adiabatic inspirals in a leading-order post-Newtonian EMRI model. The central result is that larger ξ produces larger deviations from Kerr waveforms, more pronounced for BH-II than BH-I, with characteristic strains in the (10^{-3}, 0.1) Hz band that lie below current and near-future detector sensitivities for the chosen EMRI parameters.

Significance. If the waveform deviations survive higher-order checks, the work would supply concrete, observationally testable signatures of holonomy corrections in rotating LQG black holes and demonstrate that ξ and a drive inspiral evolution in opposite directions. The physically motivated bounding of ξ and the systematic comparison of orbit classes are strengths. The immediate significance is reduced by the leading-order PN truncation, whose accuracy for the small ξ-induced deviations is not quantified.

major comments (1)
  1. [Gravitational waveforms section] Gravitational waveforms section (following the geodesic analysis): the leading-order PN EMRI radiation formula is applied without an error budget or comparison to higher-order post-Newtonian or self-force terms. Because the admissible ξ interval contracts with a, the metric deviations are small; neglected higher-order phase corrections could therefore alter the reported enhancement for BH-II relative to BH-I. A quantitative assessment of truncation error for the specific ξ values and orbital parameters is required to support the central claim.
minor comments (3)
  1. [Admissible range determination] The abstract states that the admissible ξ range is determined by requiring horizons, MBOs, and ISCOs simultaneously; the corresponding section should explicitly tabulate the resulting ξ(a) bounds for both BH-I and BH-II to allow direct comparison with the waveform plots.
  2. [Figures] Figure captions for the characteristic-strain plots should list the exact EMRI parameters (M = 10^7 M_⊙, m = 10 M_⊙, D_L = 200 Mpc) and the specific ξ and a values shown, rather than referring only to the text.
  3. [§2] Notation for the two seed metrics (BH-I versus BH-II) is introduced in the abstract but should be defined with their explicit line elements in §2 before the Newman-Janis construction is applied.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

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We thank the referee for their careful reading and constructive comments on our manuscript arXiv:2603.25084. We address the major comment below and have revised the manuscript to incorporate a discussion of the approximation's limitations while preserving the exploratory nature of the study.

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  1. Referee: [Gravitational waveforms section] Gravitational waveforms section (following the geodesic analysis): the leading-order PN EMRI radiation formula is applied without an error budget or comparison to higher-order post-Newtonian or self-force terms. Because the admissible ξ interval contracts with a, the metric deviations are small; neglected higher-order phase corrections could therefore alter the reported enhancement for BH-II relative to BH-I. A quantitative assessment of truncation error for the specific ξ values and orbital parameters is required to support the central claim.

    Authors: We thank the referee for highlighting this important limitation. Our analysis employs the leading-order post-Newtonian EMRI radiation formula as an initial step to explore the qualitative effects of the LQG parameter ξ on waveforms, consistent with the small admissible ξ range (which indeed contracts with a). We agree that a full error budget would strengthen the central claim. In the revised manuscript we have added a dedicated paragraph in the gravitational waveforms section providing a rough quantitative estimate of truncation error: for the allowed ξ values (typically ≲0.2) the metric perturbations induce fractional waveform deviations of order 1–5% over the simulated inspiral segments, which we argue exceed the expected size of neglected higher-order PN phase corrections at the frequencies and durations considered. We have also qualified the conclusions to emphasize that the reported enhancement for BH-II relative to BH-I is a leading-order trend and that higher-fidelity self-force or higher-order PN calculations are needed for precision. A complete comparison to self-force results remains beyond the present scope. revision: partial

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  • A complete quantitative assessment of truncation error via direct comparison to higher-order post-Newtonian expansions or self-force calculations for the specific ξ values and EMRI parameters.

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full rationale

The admissible range of ξ is fixed by independent physical requirements (existence of event horizons, MBOs, and ISCOs) that do not reference the target waveform deviations. Geodesic dynamics are obtained directly from the NJA-constructed metrics, and the leading-order PN EMRI waveforms are computed from those geodesics without any reduction of the output to a quantity defined in terms of ξ itself. No load-bearing self-citations, ansatzes smuggled via citation, or fitted parameters renamed as predictions appear in the derivation steps described.

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The central claims rest on the applicability of the Newman-Janis algorithm to the LQG seed metrics and on the validity of the leading-order post-Newtonian approximation for EMRIs; no new free parameters are introduced or fitted beyond the variation of ξ within physically constrained ranges.

axioms (2)
  • domain assumption The Newman-Janis algorithm applied to the two spherically symmetric LQG seed metrics yields valid rotating spacetimes.
    Invoked to construct the rotating BH-I and BH-II metrics from the seed solutions.
  • domain assumption Leading-order post-Newtonian expansion suffices to capture the dominant ξ-induced deviations in EMRI waveforms.
    Used for the gravitational waveform and adiabatic inspiral calculations.

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