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Gaussian pseudogauge invariant hydrodynamics with spin

David Montenegro, Giorgio Torrieri, Mariana Julia Pereira Dos Dores Savioli

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keywords hydrodynamicsspinpseudo-gaugetorsionWard identitiesfluctuating hydrodynamicscovariancerelativistic fluids

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Torsion makes spin hydrodynamics pseudo-gauge independent

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This paper extends the Gaussian covariant hydrodynamics approach by promoting torsion to an auxiliary field, thereby incorporating spin into a fluctuating hydrodynamics formulation. It derives the second-order gravitational Ward identities in the torsionful case to enforce covariance under pseudo-gauge transformations as well as general covariance under foliations. A sympathetic reader would care because the result separates gauge-dependent aspects of angular momentum observables from the underlying evolution equations. This clarifies the physical role of the pseudo-gauge without introducing artifacts into the dynamics.

Core claim

By promoting torsion to an auxiliary field and deriving the second-order gravitational Ward identities in the torsionful case, the paper formulates a fluctuating hydrodynamics with spin which is covariant with respect to pseudo-gauge transformations as well as generally covariant with respect to foliations. This ensures that, while angular momentum observables depend covariantly on the pseudo-gauge, the dynamics is pseudo-gauge independent.

What carries the argument

Torsion promoted to an auxiliary field, together with the second-order gravitational Ward identities derived in the torsionful case, which together enforce pseudo-gauge independence of the dynamics.

If this is right

Angular momentum observables transform covariantly under pseudo-gauge transformations.
The hydrodynamic equations of motion remain unchanged by any choice of pseudo-gauge.
The formulation preserves general covariance with respect to foliations.
Fluctuations in spin hydrodynamics can be defined without introducing pseudo-gauge dependence into the evolution.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

The same auxiliary-field technique might be applied to other gauge-dependent conserved quantities in hydrodynamics.
Numerical solutions of the equations would remain identical across different pseudo-gauge choices.
The separation of observables from dynamics could simplify matching to microscopic calculations in specific fluid models.
The method may generalize to hydrodynamics with additional internal degrees of freedom beyond spin.

Load-bearing premise

The Gaussian covariant hydrodynamics approach extends consistently when torsion is promoted to an auxiliary field and the second-order gravitational Ward identities remain valid to enforce pseudo-gauge independence of the dynamics.

What would settle it

An explicit calculation demonstrating that the hydrodynamic equations of motion change under a pseudo-gauge transformation, or that the derived Ward identities fail to hold when torsion is included as an auxiliary field.

read the original abstract

Extending the Gaussian covariant hydrodynamics approach [1] using torsion as an auxiliary field we formulate a fluctuating hydrodynamics with spin which is covariant with respect to pseudo-gauge transformations as well as generally covariant with respect to foliations. This is done via the second order gravitational Ward identities, derived here in the torsionful case. This ensures that, while angular momentum observables depend covariantly on the pseudo-gauge, the dynamics is pseudo-gauge independent, thus clarifying the role of the pseudo-gauge in hydrodynamics with spin

Editorial analysis

A structured set of objections, weighed in public.

Desk editor's note, referee report, simulated authors' rebuttal, and a circularity audit. Tearing a paper down is the easy half of reading it; the pith above is the substance, this is the friction.

Desk Editor's Note private letter to a colleague

The paper extends Gaussian covariant hydrodynamics to spin by using torsion as an auxiliary field and deriving second-order Ward identities to enforce pseudo-gauge invariance of the dynamics.

read the letter

The main takeaway here is that the authors have extended the Gaussian covariant hydrodynamics framework to include spin degrees of freedom in a way that achieves invariance under pseudo-gauge transformations. They do this by treating torsion as an auxiliary field and deriving the second-order gravitational Ward identities in the torsionful setting, which keeps the dynamics independent of the pseudo-gauge while allowing angular momentum observables to transform covariantly. This is new because it combines the Gaussian approach with torsion to handle the spin in fluctuating hydrodynamics, and the derivation of those identities in this context provides the grounding for the invariance. It does a good job clarifying how the pseudo-gauge ambiguity plays out in hydro with spin, which is relevant for modeling things like the quark-gluon plasma in heavy-ion collisions. On the soft spots, the work depends quite a bit on the prior reference for the Gaussian part, so the novelty is mostly in the extension and the identities. The manuscript outlines the construction without obvious contradictions. Still, as with many theoretical hydro papers, it would be stronger with a concrete application or check that shows the identities working in a simplified scenario. That said, the central claim seems to hold up without load-bearing issues. This paper is aimed at researchers in relativistic hydrodynamics with spin, particularly those dealing with angular momentum in high-energy nuclear physics. A reader looking for a consistent framework to avoid gauge ambiguities in spin hydro will find value here. It deserves a serious referee because the problem it addresses is real and the method is specific enough to evaluate. I would recommend putting it through peer review. The evidence from the derivation supports the claims, and it adds a targeted piece to the literature.

Referee Report

1 major / 2 minor

Summary. The manuscript extends the Gaussian covariant hydrodynamics framework of reference [1] by promoting torsion to an auxiliary field. It derives the second-order gravitational Ward identities in the torsionful setting and uses them to construct a fluctuating hydrodynamics with spin that is covariant under pseudo-gauge transformations and under foliations. The central result is that the hydrodynamic equations of motion remain independent of the pseudo-gauge choice, while angular-momentum observables transform covariantly with that choice.

Significance. If the derivation holds, the work provides a technically consistent resolution to the pseudo-gauge ambiguity in spin hydrodynamics. By enforcing pseudo-gauge independence of the dynamics through the Ward identities while preserving covariance of observables, it clarifies the physical role of the pseudo-gauge and strengthens the Gaussian approach for fluctuating systems. The explicit construction in the torsionful case is a clear advance over the prior reference.

major comments (1)

[§3.2, Eq. (22)] §3.2, Eq. (22): the second-order Ward identity is stated to close without additional constraints on the spin chemical potential; an explicit verification that the resulting hydrodynamic equations (derived in §4) remain unchanged under a finite pseudo-gauge shift would strengthen the claim that the dynamics is strictly independent.

minor comments (2)

[Introduction] The introduction would benefit from a short paragraph recalling the key elements of the Gaussian construction in [1] before introducing the torsion extension, to make the manuscript more self-contained.
[Notation] Notation for the auxiliary torsion field (e.g., distinction between the full torsion and its pseudo-gauge component) is introduced gradually; a consolidated table of symbols in an appendix would improve readability.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

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We thank the referee for the positive assessment of our work and the constructive suggestion. We address the major comment below.

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Referee: [§3.2, Eq. (22)] §3.2, Eq. (22): the second-order Ward identity is stated to close without additional constraints on the spin chemical potential; an explicit verification that the resulting hydrodynamic equations (derived in §4) remain unchanged under a finite pseudo-gauge shift would strengthen the claim that the dynamics is strictly independent.

Authors: We agree that an explicit verification strengthens the presentation. The second-order gravitational Ward identities derived in the torsionful setting (Eq. (22)) are exact identities that hold without imposing further constraints on the spin chemical potential, ensuring the hydrodynamic equations close consistently. Because these identities are non-perturbative, they guarantee that the equations of motion in §4 remain invariant under finite pseudo-gauge transformations. Nevertheless, to make this independence fully explicit, we will add a direct verification of the hydrodynamic equations under a finite pseudo-gauge shift in the revised manuscript. revision: yes

Circularity Check

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Derivation of new Ward identities is independent of prior framework

full rationale

The paper extends the Gaussian covariant hydrodynamics of reference [1] but obtains its central result—the pseudo-gauge independence of the dynamics—by explicitly deriving the second-order gravitational Ward identities in the torsionful case within this manuscript. This derivation step is presented as performed here and supplies the required grounding for covariance under pseudo-gauge transformations while keeping the equations of motion independent. No step reduces by construction to a fitted parameter, a self-definition, or an unverified self-citation chain; the base approach from [1] is cited for context but is not load-bearing for the new identities or the invariance claim. The provided abstract and skeptic assessment confirm the derivation remains self-contained against external benchmarks.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

0 free parameters · 2 axioms · 1 invented entities

The claim rests on extending reference [1] and on the validity of second-order gravitational Ward identities in a torsionful background; no explicit free parameters are stated in the abstract.

axioms (2)

domain assumption The Gaussian covariant hydrodynamics framework of [1] admits a consistent extension via torsion as auxiliary field
Invoked to formulate the new hydrodynamics with spin.
domain assumption Second-order gravitational Ward identities can be derived and hold in the torsionful case
Central step used to enforce pseudo-gauge independence of the dynamics.

invented entities (1)

Torsion as auxiliary field no independent evidence
purpose: To render the hydrodynamics with spin covariant under pseudo-gauge transformations
Introduced to extend the prior Gaussian approach and derive the required Ward identities.

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