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arxiv: 2604.15999 · v1 · submitted 2026-04-17 · ❄️ cond-mat.mes-hall · cond-mat.mtrl-sci

Disambiguating electrical detection of magnetization dynamics in magnetic insulators

Hanchen Wang , William Legrand , Shangyuan Wang , Davit Petrosyan , Hiroki Matsumoto , Richard Schlitz , Ka Shen , Pietro Gambardella This is my paper

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classification ❄️ cond-mat.mes-hall cond-mat.mtrl-sci
keywords spin pumpingST-FMRmagnetic insulatorsmagnon transportelectrical detectionspin-charge conversionyttrium iron garnet
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Electrical voltage from magnetization dynamics in insulators cannot be uniquely linked to magnon chirality due to competing detection mechanisms.

A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.

In heavy-metal/magnetic-insulator heterostructures, microwave excitation produces voltage signals through two competing mechanisms: spin pumping from propagating spin waves that decay exponentially away from the source, and spin-torque ferromagnetic resonance driven by inductive coupling whose strength falls off weakly with distance. These mechanisms generate voltages of opposite signs. Their relative dominance depends on magnetic field orientation, device geometry, the profile of the spin-wave excitation through the film thickness, and the amount of magnetic damping. Systematic measurements on platinum-capped thulium iron garnet and bismuth-yttrium iron garnet films in both local and nonlocal geometries separate the contributions and show that the observed voltage sign therefore does not reliably indicate the chirality of the magnon modes. This disambiguation matters for correct interpretation of magnon transport data and for the design of magnonic devices.

Core claim

We disentangle a contribution due to spin pumping, induced by exponentially decaying propagating spin waves, and a weakly distance-dependent contribution from ST-FMR, remotely induced by inductive coupling. We show that both the spin wave excitation profile across the film thickness and magnetic damping largely determine which of the two contributions dominates. Hence, the sign of the electrical signal cannot be uniquely assigned to the chirality of the magnon modes.

What carries the argument

Competition between exponentially decaying propagating spin waves (spin pumping) and weakly distance-dependent inductive coupling (ST-FMR) in Pt-capped magnetic insulator films under microwave excitation.

If this is right

  • The voltage generated by microwave excitation changes sign between out-of-plane and in-plane magnetic configurations.
  • Spin-wave character, magnetic dissipation, field orientation, and device geometry together govern the sign and magnitude of the measured signals.
  • Both local and nonlocal geometries can be used to separate the two contributions by varying the distance between excitation and detection.
  • Higher damping favors the exponentially decaying spin-pumping contribution over the inductive ST-FMR contribution.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • Experiments that infer magnon chirality from voltage sign should include systematic distance and orientation sweeps to confirm which mechanism dominates.
  • Device design could deliberately tune geometry or damping to suppress the unwanted contribution and obtain cleaner electrical readout of a chosen effect.
  • The same competition may appear in other microwave-excited spin-charge conversion setups, requiring analogous controls.

Load-bearing premise

The observed distance and field-orientation dependences arise solely from the competition between exponentially decaying propagating spin waves and weakly distance-dependent inductive coupling, without significant contributions from other rectification or thermoelectric effects.

What would settle it

Suppress inductive coupling (for example by increasing separation beyond the inductive range or by using non-inductive excitation) while keeping spin-wave propagation possible, then check whether the voltage sign still reverses with distance or field orientation as predicted.

Figures

Figures reproduced from arXiv: 2604.15999 by Davit Petrosyan, Hanchen Wang, Hiroki Matsumoto, Ka Shen, Pietro Gambardella, Richard Schlitz, Shangyuan Wang, William Legrand.

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Figure 1. Figure 1: FIG. 1. FMR linewidth as a function of excitation frequency [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p004_1.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 3. Figure 3: FIG. 3. (a-d) Field-dependent nonlocal voltage spectra measured on 5-nm-thick TmIG devices with antenna–detector separation [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p005_3.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 4. Figure 4: FIG. 4. Local voltage detection in the 5-nm-thick TmIG film. [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p006_4.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 5. Figure 5: FIG. 5. Analysis of nonlocal detection for the 5-nm-thick [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p007_5.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 7. Figure 7: FIG. 7. Local and nonlocal detection for the 40-nm-thick [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p008_7.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 9. Figure 9: FIG. 9. Polar-angle dependent nonlocal voltage spectra un [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p011_9.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 8. Figure 8: FIG. 8. Micromagnetic simulation results of field-dependent [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p011_8.png] view at source ↗
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Electrical detection of magnetization dynamics in magnetic insulators underpins both fundamental studies of magnon transport and the development of low-loss magnonic devices. In heavy-metal/magnetic-insulator heterostructures, spin pumping and spin-torque ferromagnetic resonance (ST-FMR) are widely used for this purpose and are often treated separately in different measurement geometries. In practice, the competition between these two effects gives rise to electrical voltage signals of opposite signs, which can lead to ambiguous interpretations of the underlying physics. Here, we show how to disambiguate their respective contributions and provide a framework for interpreting experiments involving microwave excitation of magnetic insulators and detection of magnetization dynamics via spin-charge conversion in heavy metals. We systematically investigate spin pumping and ST-FMR in nonlocal and local devices using Pt-capped thin films of thulium and bismuth-yttrium iron garnets. We show how spin-wave character, magnetic dissipation, magnetic field orientation and device geometry govern the sign and magnitude of the resulting signals. In several cases, the voltage generated by microwave excitation changes sign between an out-of-plane or in-plane magnetic configuration. We disentangle a contribution due to spin pumping, induced by exponentially decaying propagating spin waves, and a weakly distance-dependent contribution from ST-FMR, remotely induced by inductive coupling. We show that both the spin wave excitation profile across the film thickness and magnetic damping largely determine which of the two contributions dominates. Hence, the sign of the electrical signal cannot be uniquely assigned to the chirality of the magnon modes.

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Referee Report

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Summary. The paper claims that electrical voltage signals from microwave excitation of magnetization dynamics in Pt/TmIG and Pt/BiYIG heterostructures arise from competition between spin pumping (exponentially decaying with distance due to propagating spin waves) and ST-FMR (weakly distance-dependent via inductive coupling). Systematic measurements in local and nonlocal devices show that signal sign changes with magnetic field orientation (out-of-plane vs. in-plane), device geometry, spin-wave character, and damping; consequently, the sign cannot be uniquely assigned to magnon chirality. The authors provide a framework for disambiguation based on these factors.

Significance. If the separation of mechanisms holds, the result is significant for magnon transport studies and magnonic devices, as it resolves a common source of interpretive ambiguity in heavy-metal/magnetic-insulator heterostructures. The systematic variation across two garnet materials, multiple geometries, and field orientations supplies concrete guidance for experimental design. Credit is due for the explicit mapping of how excitation profile across film thickness and damping control dominance of each contribution.

major comments (1)
  1. [Abstract (disentangling procedure) and results sections describing distance/field sweeps] The central conclusion that signal sign cannot be uniquely assigned to magnon chirality depends on the premise that distance and orientation dependences arise solely from the spin-pumping vs. ST-FMR competition. The manuscript must demonstrate that other mechanisms (microwave rectification at interfaces, longitudinal/transverse thermoelectric voltages from local heating, or thickness-dependent Oersted torques) produce negligible contributions with comparable distance/orientation scaling; without such controls or estimates, the disambiguation remains vulnerable to alternative explanations.
minor comments (2)
  1. [Methods and device-geometry descriptions] Clarify the precise definition of 'nonlocal' vs. 'local' devices and the microwave excitation geometry in each case to allow readers to reproduce the inductive-coupling argument.
  2. [Figures showing distance dependence] Include quantitative error bars, raw data traces, and fitting parameters (e.g., decay lengths) for the voltage-vs-distance plots so that the claimed exponential vs. weak dependence can be independently assessed.

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We thank the referee for the positive evaluation of our work and the constructive major comment. We address it directly below, providing both a substantive defense based on the existing data and a commitment to strengthen the manuscript with explicit estimates.

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  1. Referee: [Abstract (disentangling procedure) and results sections describing distance/field sweeps] The central conclusion that signal sign cannot be uniquely assigned to magnon chirality depends on the premise that distance and orientation dependences arise solely from the spin-pumping vs. ST-FMR competition. The manuscript must demonstrate that other mechanisms (microwave rectification at interfaces, longitudinal/transverse thermoelectric voltages from local heating, or thickness-dependent Oersted torques) produce negligible contributions with comparable distance/orientation scaling; without such controls or estimates, the disambiguation remains vulnerable to alternative explanations.

    Authors: We agree that explicit bounds on alternative mechanisms would further solidify the central claim. Our systematic measurements already provide strong discrimination: the observed exponential decay with distance matches propagating spin waves (spin pumping) while the weakly distance-dependent term matches inductive coupling (ST-FMR); both reverse sign with field orientation and depend on damping and spin-wave character in ways inconsistent with rectification, thermoelectric effects from local heating, or Oersted torques. Rectification at interfaces would lack the nonlocal exponential component and the specific damping dependence we report. Thermoelectric voltages are expected to be strictly local and would not produce the sign changes with out-of-plane versus in-plane fields or the geometry-dependent nonlocal signals. Thickness-dependent Oersted torques can be estimated from the applied microwave power, Pt conductivity, and garnet thickness; their contribution is at least an order of magnitude smaller than the measured voltages and does not reproduce the observed distance scaling or sign reversals. Nevertheless, to directly address the concern we will add a dedicated paragraph (with supporting estimates) in the revised manuscript and supplementary information quantifying the upper bounds on these alternatives and confirming their incompatibility with the data. This addition will be made without altering the main conclusions. revision: yes

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No circularity: experimental disentanglement of spin pumping vs. ST-FMR rests on direct measurements

full rationale

The manuscript is an experimental study that maps voltage sign changes across device geometries, distances, and field orientations in Pt/TmIG and Pt/BiYIG films. It attributes the observed behaviors to the competition between exponentially decaying propagating spin waves (spin pumping) and weakly distance-dependent inductive coupling (ST-FMR), using the measured distance and orientation dependences themselves as the separating observables. No equations, fitted parameters renamed as predictions, or self-referential derivations appear; the central claim that signal sign cannot be uniquely assigned to magnon chirality follows directly from the reported sign flips and their correlation with the two mechanisms. The analysis is therefore self-contained against external benchmarks of microwave excitation and spin-charge conversion, with no load-bearing step that reduces to its own inputs by construction.

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