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Complex Approximate Message Passing with Non-separable Denoising
T0 review · 2 major / 2 minor · reviewed 2026-05-09 · grok-4.3
Pith's one-line read Complex AMP with non-separable denoisers admits scalar state evolution via real-valued lifting
desk verdict The lifting trick for complex non-separable AMP state evolution is the main contribution, but whether it truly collapses to scalar recursions still needs checking. read the letter →
The pith
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
The reading
What carries the argument
Augmented real-valued system with many-to-one canonical transformation, whose Onsager correction employs Wirtinger derivatives to produce scalar complex state evolution recursions for non-separable denoisers
What would settle it
Empirical observation that the predicted scalar state evolution deviates from measured AMP performance in a complex non-separable denoising instance would falsify the claim.
Extended reading notes
Core claim
The article establishes state evolution for complex approximate message passing with non-separable denoising functions by constructing an augmented real-valued system that lifts the problem to higher dimension and recovers the complex domain through a many-to-one canonical transformation. Under this lift the Onsager correction uses Wirtinger derivatives and the state evolution collapses to scalar complex recursions. The same framework extends to the matrix-valued case, enabling simultaneous handling of multiple feature vectors and joint structural constraints such as group-plus-element sparsity.
Load-bearing premise
The augmented real-valued lifting together with the many-to-one canonical transformation and Wirtinger derivatives correctly produces scalar complex state evolution recursions even when the denoisers are non-separable.
Editorial extensions
If this is right
- State evolution accurately predicts performance in numerical experiments on complex recovery tasks.
- The framework extends to matrix-valued AMP, allowing simultaneous processing of multiple feature vectors.
- Complex non-separable denoising enables exploitation of joint structures such as simultaneous group and element sparsity.
- The complex sparse group LASSO instantiation applies to preamble detection in OTFS-based unsourced random access.
Reading between the lines
- The lifting technique may extend to other iterative algorithms that currently lack state evolution in the complex non-separable regime.
- Applications in wireless communications could benefit from joint sparsity exploitation in complex channels without requiring separability assumptions.
- Similar real-valued augmentations might simplify analysis of non-separable functions in related high-dimensional inference settings.
Editorial analysis
A structured set of objections, weighed in public.
Referee Report
Summary. The paper claims to establish state evolution for complex approximate message passing (AMP) with non-separable denoising functions. It constructs an augmented real-valued system via lifting, applies real-valued AMP, and recovers scalar complex recursions through a many-to-one canonical transformation that incorporates Wirtinger derivatives in the Onsager correction term. The framework extends to matrix-valued AMP and is instantiated on complex sparse group LASSO for OTFS-based unsourced random access, with numerical experiments validating the state evolution predictions.
Significance. If the central derivation holds, the work supplies a previously missing theoretical tool for complex AMP under non-separable denoisers, enabling exploitation of joint structures such as simultaneous group and element sparsity. This directly supports improved recovery algorithms in communications applications and unifies prior separate advances in matrix AMP, complex AMP, and non-separable AMP.
major comments (2)
- [Main theoretical derivation (lifting and canonical transformation)] The lifting construction and subsequent many-to-one canonical transformation (described in the main theoretical section following the abstract) are asserted to collapse the real-valued covariance tracking of non-separable AMP into scalar complex state evolution recursions. However, standard real AMP state evolution for non-separable denoisers maintains the full noise covariance matrix; the manuscript does not explicitly demonstrate why the transformation forces all off-diagonal cross terms to vanish or to depend only on a single complex variance parameter, nor does it state the precise symmetry assumptions on the lifted noise or sensing matrix required for this reduction.
- [State evolution recursions] The claim that the Onsager correction naturally involves Wirtinger derivatives and yields scalar recursions despite non-separability (abstract and subsequent state-evolution equations) is load-bearing for the entire contribution. Without a self-contained proof or explicit verification that the many-to-one mapping eliminates the extra covariance degrees of freedom, the reduction to scalar complex form remains unverified and could require additional assumptions not stated in the current presentation.
minor comments (2)
- [Preliminaries and notation] Notation for the augmented real-valued vectors and the canonical transformation mapping could be clarified with an explicit diagram or table relating the complex, real-augmented, and transformed variables.
- [Matrix-valued extension] The extension to the matrix-valued setting is stated but the corresponding state-evolution equations are only sketched; a dedicated subsection with the full recursion would improve readability.
Simulated Author's Rebuttal
We thank the referee for the careful reading of the manuscript and the constructive comments on the theoretical sections. The feedback highlights areas where additional explicit derivations will strengthen the presentation. We address each major comment below and will revise the manuscript to incorporate the requested clarifications.
read point-by-point responses
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Referee: [Main theoretical derivation (lifting and canonical transformation)] The lifting construction and subsequent many-to-one canonical transformation (described in the main theoretical section following the abstract) are asserted to collapse the real-valued covariance tracking of non-separable AMP into scalar complex state evolution recursions. However, standard real AMP state evolution for non-separable denoisers maintains the full noise covariance matrix; the manuscript does not explicitly demonstrate why the transformation forces all off-diagonal cross terms to vanish or to depend only on a single complex variance parameter, nor does it state the precise symmetry assumptions on the lifted noise or sensing matrix required for this reduction.
Authors: We appreciate this observation. The reduction follows from the circular symmetry of the i.i.d. complex Gaussian sensing matrix and noise, which induces a block structure in the lifted real-valued covariance that is preserved under the many-to-one canonical transformation, causing off-diagonal cross terms to vanish and leaving only a single complex variance parameter. This symmetry is used throughout the state-evolution analysis, but we agree that an explicit statement and derivation would improve clarity. In the revision we will add a dedicated lemma immediately after the lifting construction that states the precise assumptions (i.i.d. circularly symmetric complex Gaussian entries) and proves the vanishing of the extra covariance degrees of freedom. revision: yes
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Referee: [State evolution recursions] The claim that the Onsager correction naturally involves Wirtinger derivatives and yields scalar recursions despite non-separability (abstract and subsequent state-evolution equations) is load-bearing for the entire contribution. Without a self-contained proof or explicit verification that the many-to-one mapping eliminates the extra covariance degrees of freedom, the reduction to scalar complex form remains unverified and could require additional assumptions not stated in the current presentation.
Authors: We agree that a more self-contained verification strengthens the contribution. The appearance of Wirtinger derivatives in the Onsager term is a direct consequence of applying the real-valued AMP state evolution to the lifted system and then projecting back via the canonical mapping; the mapping eliminates the extra covariance parameters precisely because of the circular symmetry already invoked in the lifting step. To address the concern we will expand the state-evolution section with an explicit step-by-step verification (including an appendix calculation) that shows how the many-to-one transformation reduces the full matrix covariance to the scalar complex recursion, and we will list all required assumptions at the start of the section. revision: yes
Circularity Check
No circularity: state evolution derived via lifting construction without reduction to self-defined inputs or fitted parameters
full rationale
The paper's central derivation lifts the complex non-separable AMP problem to an augmented real-valued system, applies standard real AMP, then uses a many-to-one canonical transformation with Wirtinger derivatives to recover scalar complex state evolution recursions. This is presented as a first-principles construction in the abstract and reader's summary, with no quoted equations or claims showing that the resulting recursions are equivalent by definition to quantities fitted from the authors' prior work or self-cited uniqueness theorems. No self-citation load-bearing steps, no fitted-input-called-prediction, and no ansatz smuggled via citation are evident. The derivation is self-contained against the lifting and transformation steps, consistent with the reader's assessment of independence from fitted values.
Assumptions & free parameters
assumptions (1)
- domain assumption Large-system limit and i.i.d. matrix entries under which state evolution holds
Cite this review
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read the original abstract
Approximate Message Passing (AMP) is a general framework for iterative algorithms, originally developed for compressed sensing and later extended to a wide range of high-dimensional inference problems. Although recent work has advanced matrix AMP, complex AMP, and AMP for non-separable functions independently, a unified state evolution theory for complex AMP with non-separable denoisers has been lacking. This article fills that gap by establishing state evolution in the setting of complex, non-separable denoising functions. The proposed approach constructs an augmented real-valued system that lifts the problem to a higher-dimensional space, then recovers the complex domain through a many-to-one canonical transformation. Under this construction, the Onsager correction naturally involves Wirtinger derivatives, and the resulting state evolution reduces to scalar complex recursions despite the non-separable structure of the denoisers. The framework extends to the matrix-valued setting, accommodating multiple feature vectors simultaneously. This generalization enables AMP to exploit joint structural constraints, such as simultaneous group and element sparsity, in complex-valued recovery problems. The complex sparse group least absolute shrinkage and selection operator (LASSO) serves as a key instantiation, motivated by preamble detection in Orthogonal Time-Frequency Space (OTFS)-based unsourced random access. Numerical experiments confirm that state evolution accurately predicts performance and show that complex non-separable denoising can produce significant gains over separable and real-valued alternatives.
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