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Relational Dualities and Bisimulation
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The pith
Relational extensions of Tarski and Thomason dualities put relations between frames in correspondence with relations between their predicate algebras.
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
Core claim
The paper constructs relational extensions of Tarski duality for infinitary classical propositional logic and Thomason duality for infinitary classical modal logic. These extensions establish a correspondence between relations on relational frames and relations on the algebras of logical predicates. The construction preserves the essential properties of the original dualities, so that relations between frames induce corresponding relations between predicates and thereby support a proof system that relates formulae across different systems.
What carries the argument
Relational extensions of Tarski duality and Thomason duality, which map relations on frames to relations on predicate algebras while preserving the original duality properties.
If this is right
- Bisimulations between relational frames correspond directly to relations between the algebras of predicates on those frames.
- A proof system is obtained that relates formulae holding in one logical system to formulae holding in another.
- The correspondence applies to the infinitary versions of classical propositional logic and classical modal logic.
- Well-behaved relations between systems are placed in exact correspondence with relations between their logical predicates.
Where Pith is reading between the lines
- The same pattern of relational extension could be tried on dualities for other logics to obtain uniform treatments of bisimulation.
- The resulting proof system might be used to transfer logical properties across bisimilar systems without direct semantic comparison.
- Computational interpretations in which frames model machine states could inherit algebraic reasoning tools from the dualities.
Load-bearing premise
That relational extensions of the dualities exist while preserving the key properties of the original Tarski and Thomason dualities for the infinitary case, allowing correspondence between frame relations and predicate relations.
What would settle it
An explicit pair of relational frames and their predicate algebras in which a bisimulation on the frames fails to induce a corresponding relation on the predicates under any candidate extension of the duality.
read the original abstract
The Kripke semantics of various logics arises via categorical dualities between a category of relational frames and their maps, and a category of algebras and logical homomorphisms. When the relational frames are considered as computational systems (e.g. the states of a machine), the corresponding algebra is one of logical predicates on these systems (e.g. predicates on these states, i.e. program logics). Our aim is to extend this phenomenon to relations, putting well-behaved relations between systems (e.g. bisimulations) in correspondence with relations between predicates. This is achieved by constructing particular relational extensions of Tarski duality (for infinitary classical propositional logic) and Thomason duality (for infinitary classical modal logic). We sketch how these dualities give rise to a proof system that relates formulae between different systems.
Editorial analysis
A structured set of objections, weighed in public.
Referee Report
Summary. The paper constructs relational extensions of Tarski duality (for infinitary classical propositional logic) and Thomason duality (for infinitary classical modal logic). These extensions are intended to put well-behaved relations between relational frames (such as bisimulations) in correspondence with relations between the dual algebras of predicates. The manuscript sketches how the resulting dualities induce a proof system relating formulae across different systems.
Significance. If the constructions preserve the key adjunctions and object correspondences of the original dualities while adding relational structure, the work would supply a categorical bridge between frame-based and algebra-based accounts of bisimulation in infinitary logics. This could strengthen correspondence theory and provide a uniform way to derive relational proof rules from dualities, with potential applications to program logics and modal correspondence.
major comments (2)
- [§3] §3 (relational extension of Thomason duality): the claim that the construction preserves the original adjunction and object correspondence for infinitary modal logic is stated but not verified in detail; without an explicit check that the relational structure respects infinite conjunctions and the modal operators, the central correspondence between frame relations and predicate relations remains unestablished.
- [§5] §5 (induced proof system): the sketch of the proof system relating formulae between systems does not supply the explicit rules, the translation between the two sides, or a soundness argument with respect to the relational duality; this step is load-bearing for the claim that the dualities give rise to a usable proof system.
minor comments (2)
- Notation for the relational extensions (e.g., the functors and the lifted relations) is introduced without a consolidated table or diagram; a summary diagram would clarify the relationship to the classical Tarski and Thomason dualities.
- The paper should explicitly state the precise infinitary fragment under consideration (e.g., whether arbitrary or countable conjunctions are allowed) when extending the dualities, as this affects the preservation properties.
Simulated Author's Rebuttal
We thank the referee for their thorough review and valuable comments on our paper. We address each major comment below and plan to incorporate the necessary revisions to strengthen the manuscript.
read point-by-point responses
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Referee: [§3] §3 (relational extension of Thomason duality): the claim that the construction preserves the original adjunction and object correspondence for infinitary modal logic is stated but not verified in detail; without an explicit check that the relational structure respects infinite conjunctions and the modal operators, the central correspondence between frame relations and predicate relations remains unestablished.
Authors: We agree that the preservation of the adjunction and object correspondence requires a more detailed explicit verification, particularly regarding the handling of infinite conjunctions and modal operators. In the revised manuscript, we will add a subsection or appendix providing this verification to establish the central correspondence. revision: yes
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Referee: [§5] §5 (induced proof system): the sketch of the proof system relating formulae between systems does not supply the explicit rules, the translation between the two sides, or a soundness argument with respect to the relational duality; this step is load-bearing for the claim that the dualities give rise to a usable proof system.
Authors: We recognize that the sketch in §5 lacks the explicit rules, translation, and soundness argument needed to fully support the claim. We will revise §5 to include these elements, deriving the proof rules directly from the relational duality and proving soundness. revision: yes
Circularity Check
No significant circularity detected
full rationale
The paper describes a direct categorical construction that extends the standard Tarski duality for infinitary propositional logic and Thomason duality for infinitary modal logic by adding relational structure to correspond bisimulations with predicate relations. No equations, definitions, or steps in the provided abstract or description reduce by construction to fitted parameters, self-referential definitions, or load-bearing self-citations. The central claim relies on preserving adjunctions and object correspondences from externally established dualities, with the relational extension presented as a sketch rather than a reduction to prior inputs. This is a self-contained theoretical development without the enumerated circularity patterns.
Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger
axioms (1)
- standard math Standard axioms and properties of Tarski and Thomason dualities for infinitary logics
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