arxiv: 2605.06646 · v1 · submitted 2026-05-07 · 💻 cs.LG

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Inductive Venn-Abers and related regressors

Ivan Petej , Vladimir Vovk

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keywords Venn-Abers predictorsconformal predictionunbounded regressionpoint regressorspredictive efficiencyinductive predictorsprobabilistic prediction

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The pith

Venn-Abers predictors can be generalized to unbounded regression by incorporating conformal prediction

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Venn-Abers predictors provide valid probabilistic predictions but were previously limited to binary classification and bounded regression. The paper extends the method to unbounded regression by adding an element of conformal prediction. Simulation and empirical studies then examine point regressors derived from these generalized predictors. The results indicate that these point regressors offer modest improvements in predictive efficiency over standard regressors, particularly for larger training sets.

Core claim

We generalize them to the case of unbounded regression, which requires adding an element of conformal prediction. In our simulation and empirical studies we investigate the predictive efficiency of point regressors derived from Venn-Abers regressors and argue that they somewhat improve the predictive efficiency of standard regressors for larger training sets.

What carries the argument

Inductive Venn-Abers predictor combined with conformal prediction to handle unbounded real-valued responses

If this is right

The generalized predictors remain valid for regression tasks with outputs that have no fixed bounds.
Point regressors derived from the new Venn-Abers predictors achieve better predictive efficiency than standard regressors when training sets are large.
The approach broadens Venn-Abers applicability from binary and bounded cases to continuous unbounded outcomes.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

This extension could support more reliable uncertainty estimates in regression applications where outcomes range over all real numbers.
Similar combinations of validity methods may improve efficiency in other types of predictors beyond regression.
The observed gains on larger sets suggest testing the method on real-world datasets of increasing size to map the conditions for improvement.

Load-bearing premise

Adding conformal prediction to Venn-Abers preserves the desired validity properties while enabling the efficiency gains observed in the studies for unbounded regression.

What would settle it

A simulation or empirical study on a large training set in which the derived point regressors show no efficiency improvement over standard methods or lose validity properties.

read the original abstract

Venn-Abers predictors are probabilistic predictors that enjoy appealing properties of validity, but their major limitation is that they are applicable only to the case of binary classification, with a recent extension to bounded regression. We generalize them to the case of unbounded regression, which requires adding an element of conformal prediction. In our simulation and empirical studies we investigate the predictive efficiency of point regressors derived from Venn-Abers regressors and argue that they somewhat improve the predictive efficiency of standard regressors for larger training sets.

Editorial analysis

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Desk editor's note, referee report, simulated authors' rebuttal, and a circularity audit. Tearing a paper down is the easy half of reading it; the pith above is the substance, this is the friction.

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The paper adds conformal prediction to extend inductive Venn-Abers to unbounded regression and reports modest efficiency gains on larger datasets, but the validity argument for the combination is thin.

read the letter

The core move is taking Venn-Abers predictors, previously limited to binary classification and bounded regression, and generalizing them to unbounded outputs by inserting a conformal prediction step. The authors then derive point regressors from these and test whether they beat standard regressors on predictive efficiency in simulations and some empirical runs, with the gains appearing mainly for bigger training sets.

Referee Report

2 major / 2 minor

Summary. The manuscript generalizes Venn-Abers predictors from binary classification and bounded regression to unbounded regression by incorporating an element of conformal prediction. It then derives point regressors from the resulting inductive Venn-Abers predictors and evaluates their predictive efficiency through simulation studies and empirical experiments on real data, claiming modest improvements over standard regressors for larger training sets.

Significance. If the validity properties are preserved under the proposed augmentation, the work would provide a principled extension of Venn-Abers calibration to unbounded outputs, enabling point predictions with both efficiency gains and calibration guarantees. The inclusion of both simulation and empirical evaluation is a strength, as it allows direct comparison of efficiency metrics across controlled and real-world settings.

major comments (2)

[methods section on the conformal-augmented construction] The central construction (described after the abstract and in the methods section on inductive Venn-Abers for regression): no explicit theorem establishes that the conformal-augmented predictor preserves the marginal validity or calibration properties of the original Venn-Abers under exchangeability. The combination of multi-probability outputs with conformal nonconformity scores and p-value aggregation introduces potential dependence that is not shown to leave coverage guarantees intact; this is load-bearing because the reported efficiency gains cannot be interpreted as improvements of a valid method without it.
[experiments section] Simulation and empirical results (Section on experiments): the efficiency comparisons for point regressors are presented without reported standard errors, confidence intervals, or statistical tests on the differences versus baseline regressors. This weakens the claim of 'somewhat improve' for larger training sets, as it is unclear whether observed gains exceed variability.

minor comments (2)

[methods] The definition of the nonconformity measure used in the conformal step could be stated more explicitly with an equation, to allow readers to verify reproducibility.
[references] A few citations to foundational conformal prediction regression papers appear to be missing from the bibliography.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

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We thank the referee for the careful reading and constructive comments on our manuscript. We address the major points below and will revise the paper to incorporate clarifications and additional analyses where needed.

read point-by-point responses

Referee: The central construction (described after the abstract and in the methods section on inductive Venn-Abers for regression): no explicit theorem establishes that the conformal-augmented predictor preserves the marginal validity or calibration properties of the original Venn-Abers under exchangeability. The combination of multi-probability outputs with conformal nonconformity scores and p-value aggregation introduces potential dependence that is not shown to leave coverage guarantees intact; this is load-bearing because the reported efficiency gains cannot be interpreted as improvements of a valid method without it.

Authors: We appreciate the referee highlighting the importance of rigorously establishing validity preservation. The construction augments Venn-Abers with conformal prediction specifically to handle unbounded outputs while leveraging the exchangeability assumption for coverage. However, we agree that an explicit theorem is warranted to address potential dependencies in the p-value aggregation. In the revised manuscript, we will insert a dedicated theorem and proof showing that marginal validity and calibration properties are retained, by demonstrating that the conformal nonconformity scores computed on the calibration set ensure the required coverage independently of the multi-probability outputs. revision: yes
Referee: Simulation and empirical results (Section on experiments): the efficiency comparisons for point regressors are presented without reported standard errors, confidence intervals, or statistical tests on the differences versus baseline regressors. This weakens the claim of 'somewhat improve' for larger training sets, as it is unclear whether observed gains exceed variability.

Authors: We agree that including measures of statistical variability would strengthen the presentation of the efficiency results. The observed modest gains for larger training sets are based on single-run comparisons in both simulations and real-data experiments. In the revision, we will report standard errors derived from repeated independent trials (or bootstrapping where appropriate), add confidence intervals for the efficiency metrics, and include statistical tests such as paired t-tests or Wilcoxon signed-rank tests to assess whether the differences versus baselines are significant. revision: yes

Circularity Check

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No circularity: generalization adds independent conformal component

full rationale

The paper's core step is extending Venn-Abers (originally for classification/bounded regression) to unbounded regression via an added conformal-prediction layer. This is presented as a new construction whose validity follows from combining exchangeability-based properties of the two frameworks rather than from any self-referential definition, fitted parameter renamed as prediction, or load-bearing self-citation chain. No equation or claim reduces to its own inputs by construction; the empirical efficiency comparisons are separate from the theoretical extension. Self-citations to prior conformal/Venn-Abers work supply background assumptions but do not substitute for the new argument.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

0 free parameters · 1 axioms · 0 invented entities

Abstract-only review provides insufficient detail to enumerate specific free parameters or axioms; the central claim implicitly rests on the assumption that conformal prediction can be integrated without breaking validity.

axioms (1)

domain assumption Adding an element of conformal prediction to Venn-Abers preserves validity properties for unbounded regression.
This is required for the generalization described in the abstract.

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