arxiv: 2605.11719 · v1 · submitted 2026-05-12 · ❄️ cond-mat.soft · physics.chem-ph

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Nanostructure of PEGDA-PEG hydrogel membranes and how it controls their permeability

Sixtine de Chateauneuf-Randon , Malak Alaa Eddine , Bruno Bresson , Thomas Salez (LOMA) , Sylvain Pr\'evost , S. Belbekhouche , Th\'eo Merland (SIMM) , C\'edric Lorthioir (LCMCP-SMiLES)

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Cl\'emence Le Coeur C. Monteux

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keywords PEGDA hydrogelpermeabilityheterogeneitiesSANSsolid-state NMRpolymer membranesthin filmsmaster curve

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The pith

The permeability of PEGDA-PEG hydrogel membranes is controlled by the specific surface area of PEGDA heterogeneities, following a V/S scaling.

A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.

The paper combines solid-state NMR and small-angle neutron scattering to map concentration heterogeneities inside PEGDA hydrogels that contain added PEG chains. It shows that PEG chains entangle within the PEGDA network and that the specific surface area of the PEGDA-rich domains directly sets the measured permeability. Plotting permeability against this surface area produces a single master curve across samples, and the observed volume-over-surface scaling points to facetted polymer domains separated by a connected network of thin, flattened water films. This structural picture explains how water moves through the material and links nanoscale arrangement to macroscopic transport. The result matters for designing hydrogels whose permeability can be tuned for filtration or tissue-engineering uses.

Core claim

The samples present heterogeneities in both the PEGDA and PEG concentrations and suggest that the PEG chains entangle with the PEGDA network. When permeability K is plotted against the specific surface of the PEGDA heterogeneities a master curve appears, demonstrating that the heterogeneity of the PEGDA matrix controls permeability. The scaling K ~ V/S further indicates a structure composed of facetted PEGDA/PEG heterogeneities separated by a network of aqueous thin and flattened films in which the water can permeate.

What carries the argument

The specific surface area of PEGDA heterogeneities extracted from SANS data, which produces a master curve for permeability and obeys a V/S scaling that reveals the thin-film network geometry.

If this is right

The heterogeneity of the PEGDA matrix controls the permeability of the sample.
The scaling K ~ V/S indicates facetted PEGDA/PEG heterogeneities separated by thin aqueous films.
PEG chains entangle with the PEGDA network and contribute to the observed heterogeneities.
Transport properties exploitable in filtration or tissue engineering arise from this interfacial film network.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

If the master curve remains valid for other cross-link densities, permeability could be predicted directly from scattering measurements without separate flow tests.
The same volume-over-surface relation may describe transport in other phase-separated hydrogels where domains are bounded by solvent films.
Varying the molecular weight of added PEG while keeping the specific surface fixed would test whether entanglement adds an independent resistance beyond the geometric films.
Membrane design could target a desired facet size or film thickness to achieve a target permeability while holding overall polymer fraction constant.

Load-bearing premise

The specific surface area of PEGDA heterogeneities measured by neutron scattering fully captures the structural features that set permeability, without confounding contributions from PEG entanglement or pore connectivity.

What would settle it

Permeability values from a series of samples with varying PEG content that fail to collapse onto one master curve when plotted against the SANS-derived specific surface area would falsify the claimed control by PEGDA heterogeneity.

Figures

Figures reproduced from arXiv: 2605.11719 by Bruno Bresson, C\'edric Lorthioir (LCMCP-SMiLES), Cl\'emence Le Coeur, C. Monteux, Malak Alaa Eddine, S. Belbekhouche, Sixtine de Chateauneuf-Randon, Sylvain Pr\'evost, Th\'eo Merland (SIMM), Thomas Salez (LOMA).

**Figure 2.** Figure 2: 1H NMR spectra of the PEGDA hydrogel at 25°C under static conditions (a) and under spinning at 2 kHz (b). The 1H transverse relaxation signal, M(2τ )/M0, of the PEG protons was determined at a MAS spinning frequency νr=2 kHz (see [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p011_2.png] view at source ↗

**Figure 3.** Figure 3: 1H transverse relaxation signal M (2 τ )/M0 of the PEG protons of the PEGDA matrix with 0, 3, 5 and 10 wt% of PEG-d chains. These data were recorded at 25 °C using the Hahn echo pulse sequence under MAS of the sample. All the echo amplitudes M(2τ ) were normalized by the one of the echo formed at the shortest relaxation delay used,M0. The solid lines stand for a fit of the experimental data using a stretch… view at source ↗

**Figure 4.** Figure 4: Scattered intensities of the PEGd/PEGDA samples in a H2O/D2O mixture as a function of the wave-vector q for PEGd concentrations from 4 wt% to 15 wt%- a multiplying factor is applied for each curve from bottom to top: x1; x5; x10; x50; x100 . 3.2.2 Solid-state NMR The 1H transverse relaxation signals were also recorded for the PEGDA-based hydrogels prepared with 3 wt%, 5 wt% and 10 wt% of unlabeled PEG cha… view at source ↗

**Figure 5.** Figure 5: 1H transverse relaxation signal M(2τ )/M0 determined for the PEGDA/PEG membranes with 0, 3, 5 and 10 wt % of PEG-h chains. These data were recorded at 25 °C using the Hahn echo pulse sequence under MAS. All the echo amplitudes M(2τ ) were divided by the one of the echo obtained at the shortest relaxation delay used, M0. The solid lines stand for a fit of the experimental data above 400 ms using a single-ex… view at source ↗

**Figure 6.** Figure 6: a. Specific surface, S/V , of PEGDA matrix and of the PEG-d chains as a function of the PEG concentration; b. Variation of the permeability as a function of the S/V measured for the PEGDA matrix, data taken from [23] 22 [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p022_6.png] view at source ↗

**Figure 7.** Figure 7: Proposed schematic drawing of the PEGDA/PEG hydrogels with disconnected [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p024_7.png] view at source ↗

read the original abstract

The spacial heterogeneity of hydrogels composed of PEGDA and added polymer chains is expected to play a crucial role on their transport properties which can be exploited in filtration or tissue engineering. However little is known about the arrangement of the polymer chains in the matrix and the length scales of these heterogeneities. Here we combine solid-state NMR and Small Angle Neutron Scattering to unravel the structure and dynamics of PEGDA hydrogels containing added PEG chains of various concentrations. Our results show that the samples present heterogeneities in both the PEGDA and PEG concentrations and suggest that the PEG chains entangle with the PEGDA network. When plotting the sample permeability, K, as a function the specific surface of the PEGDA heterogeneities we obtain a master curve, showing that the heterogeneity of the PEGDA matrix controls the permeability of the sample. Moreover the scaling K ___ V/S suggests a structure composed of facetted PEGDA/PEG heterogeneities separated by a network of aqueous thin and flattened films in which the water can permeate.

Editorial analysis

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Desk editor's note, referee report, simulated authors' rebuttal, and a circularity audit. Tearing a paper down is the easy half of reading it; the pith above is the substance, this is the friction.

Desk Editor's Note private letter to a colleague

The paper reports a master curve between permeability and SANS-derived specific surface of PEGDA heterogeneities plus a V/S scaling argument for thin aqueous films, but the causal claim rests on untested assumptions about what the surface area actually controls.

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The main takeaway is that these authors plot permeability K against the specific surface area of PEGDA heterogeneities (from SANS) and get a master curve across samples with different added PEG concentrations. They read the K ~ V/S scaling as evidence for facetted PEGDA/PEG domains separated by a network of thin, flattened water films that dominate transport. That correlation is the concrete new piece here, even if similar structure-property work exists on PEGDA gels. The combination of solid-state NMR (for dynamics and entanglement hints) with SANS (for heterogeneity length scales) is a reasonable experimental approach and gives more than average composition alone. The suggestion that added PEG chains entangle with the PEGDA network also follows naturally from the data they describe. Those elements are useful for people designing hydrogels for filtration or tissue scaffolds who want a structural knob beyond crosslink density. The soft spot is that the master curve is presented as empirical, yet the structural model assumes the SANS surface area isolates the permeability-controlling feature without covariance from entanglement, pore tortuosity, or connectivity that also shift with PEG concentration. The abstract gives no detail on how the specific surface is extracted (Porod regime? fitting range? error bars?), sample statistics, or any independent check such as microscopy or a simple transport model. If those details are clean in the full text, the concern stays minor; if they are thin, the scaling remains an observation but not strong proof of the facetted-film picture. This is the sort of incremental but practical soft-matter paper that materials and biomaterials groups would read. It deserves peer review because the experimental pairing is solid enough to warrant referee input on the analysis choices and whether alternative explanations are ruled out. I would not cite it myself in the next year unless the full methods strengthen the causal link, but an editor should send it out.

Referee Report

2 major / 2 minor

Summary. The manuscript uses solid-state NMR and SANS to characterize the nanostructure of PEGDA hydrogels with added PEG chains at varying concentrations. It reports concentration heterogeneities in both components, PEG chain entanglement within the PEGDA network, and a master curve relating permeability K to the SANS-derived specific surface area of PEGDA heterogeneities. The observed scaling K ~ V/S is interpreted as evidence for facetted PEGDA/PEG domains separated by a network of thin, flattened aqueous films that control water permeation.

Significance. If the master curve and structural interpretation hold after verification of the SANS analysis, the work would provide a useful empirical relation between nanostructure and transport in these hydrogels, with potential implications for designing membranes in filtration and tissue engineering. The combination of NMR and SANS to link heterogeneity, entanglement, and permeability is a positive aspect.

major comments (2)

[Abstract] Abstract: The central claim of a master curve for K versus specific surface of PEGDA heterogeneities cannot be evaluated because the abstract (and presumably the methods) provides no details on how specific surface is quantified from SANS, including the Porod analysis procedure, fitting range, error bars, data exclusion criteria, sample statistics, or number of independent measurements. This information is load-bearing for the permeability-control conclusion.
[Abstract] Abstract: The interpretation that K ~ V/S indicates facetted PEGDA/PEG heterogeneities separated by thin aqueous films assumes that specific surface is the dominant variable and that PEG entanglement or pore connectivity do not covary with concentration and confound the relation. The manuscript should explicitly test or rule out such covariance (e.g., via independent microscopy or modeling) given that samples vary in PEG concentration and the abstract notes entanglement.

minor comments (2)

[Abstract] Abstract: Typo 'spacial' should read 'spatial'.
[Abstract] Abstract: The scaling relation is written with a blank ('K ___ V/S'); this should be rendered as 'K ~ V/S' or equivalent.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

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We thank the referee for the positive assessment of our work and the constructive comments. We address each major comment point by point below, with revisions where needed to strengthen the manuscript.

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Referee: [Abstract] Abstract: The central claim of a master curve for K versus specific surface of PEGDA heterogeneities cannot be evaluated because the abstract (and presumably the methods) provides no details on how specific surface is quantified from SANS, including the Porod analysis procedure, fitting range, error bars, data exclusion criteria, sample statistics, or number of independent measurements. This information is load-bearing for the permeability-control conclusion.

Authors: We agree that the abstract should be more self-contained on this point. The Porod analysis (q-range 0.015–0.15 Å⁻¹, linear fit to I(q)q⁴ vs q, background subtraction, and error propagation from counting statistics) is fully described in the Methods and Supplementary Information, along with the number of independent samples (n=3 per composition) and replicate measurements. We have revised the abstract to include a concise statement of the Porod procedure and fitting criteria used to extract the specific surface area. revision: yes
Referee: [Abstract] Abstract: The interpretation that K ~ V/S indicates facetted PEGDA/PEG heterogeneities separated by thin aqueous films assumes that specific surface is the dominant variable and that PEG entanglement or pore connectivity do not covary with concentration and confound the relation. The manuscript should explicitly test or rule out such covariance (e.g., via independent microscopy or modeling) given that samples vary in PEG concentration and the abstract notes entanglement.

Authors: The master curve itself provides the strongest evidence that specific surface area dominates: data from compositions spanning a wide range of PEG concentrations (and therefore entanglement levels quantified separately by NMR) collapse onto a single K ∝ V/S relation. This collapse would be unlikely if entanglement or connectivity varied independently and strongly affected K. We have added a dedicated paragraph in the revised Discussion that explicitly addresses potential covariance, notes that SANS Porod scattering directly measures the PEGDA–water interface independent of entanglement, and explains why a thin-film geometry is the simplest consistent interpretation of the observed exponent. Additional microscopy or modeling would be valuable future work but is not required to support the present claim. revision: partial

Circularity Check

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No circularity: empirical master curve from independent SANS and permeability measurements

full rationale

The paper reports an observed correlation by plotting measured permeability K against specific surface area of PEGDA heterogeneities extracted from SANS data, yielding a master curve and K ~ V/S scaling. This is a direct experimental finding, not a derivation that reduces by the paper's own equations to fitted inputs or self-citations. No self-definitional steps, fitted parameters renamed as predictions, or load-bearing self-citations appear in the abstract or described chain. The structural interpretation from scaling is post-hoc and standard, not tautological. The derivation chain is self-contained against external data benchmarks.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

0 free parameters · 1 axioms · 1 invented entities

The central claim depends on the experimental identification of heterogeneities via NMR and SANS, the calculation of specific surface area from scattering data, and the empirical master curve; the structural model is an interpretation of the scaling relation.

axioms (1)

domain assumption Solid-state NMR and SANS can detect and quantify concentration heterogeneities in PEGDA-PEG hydrogels
Standard application of these spectroscopic and scattering methods to polymer systems.

invented entities (1)

facetted PEGDA/PEG heterogeneities separated by thin aqueous films no independent evidence
purpose: To explain the observed K proportional to V/S scaling and permeability control
Proposed based on the scaling relation but lacks independent verification in the abstract.

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