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A signed neural control variate from two normalizing flows compresses event-weight ranges and removes negative weights, cutting the cost of LO and NLO collider predictions.
Reviewed by Pith at T0; open to challenge. T0 means a machine referee read the full paper against a public rubric. the ladder, T0–T4 →
T0 review · grok-4.5
2026-07-30 18:05 UTC pith:PMZVBPKR
load-bearing objection Solid methods paper: signed/nested NCVs really do cut weight range and negative fractions on LO/NLO benchmarks; the cost claim is post-training only. the 3 major comments →
Neural Control Variates at LO and NLO
The pith
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
Core claim
A signed neural control variate built from two normalizing flows absorbs the bulk of a phase-space integral into a trivially sampled term with unit weights, leaving a residual that is small, nearly constant, and free of negative weights. When that residual is sampled by neural importance sampling, the combined setup significantly reduces the computational cost of both leading-order and next-to-leading-order predictions. At NLO the conditional control variate functions as a learned finite subtraction that complements standard dipole schemes after the soft and collinear divergences have been regularized.
What carries the argument
The signed neural control variate c_θ(x) = C₊ p₊(x) − C₋ p₋(x), each p± a normalizing flow and each C± a learned non-negative normalization whose difference is the known integral; nested conditional and unconditional versions handle the Born-plus-real structure of NLO so the residual can be sampled with positive weights.
Load-bearing premise
The softplus negativity barrier, the chosen loss normalizations, and mixture densities that include a periodically re-adapted grid on the negative residual are enough to keep that residual non-negative and low-variance on realistic multi-channel NLO phase spaces without heavy hyper-parameter tuning.
What would settle it
Train the same pipeline on an independent higher-multiplicity NLO process with a larger negative-weight fraction; if the residual negative contribution stays large or the order-of-magnitude variance gain collapses, the central claim does not hold.
If this is right
- LO unweighting efficiency for multi-gluon processes can rise by a factor of roughly 2.7 on top of neural importance sampling alone.
- NLO negative-weight fractions can fall by 85–90 percent while relative variance drops by about an order of magnitude versus standard adaptive sampling.
- One-third to two-thirds of an NLO cross section can be generated from the control-variate flows without evaluating loop or real-emission matrix elements.
- The same construction works for both massive and massless final states once infrared divergences are regularized by any standard subtraction scheme.
- Differential distributions remain faithful bin-by-bin because the control variate is an exact rewriting of the integral.
Where Pith is reading between the lines
- The nested construction could be stacked for NNLO by applying successive conditional control variates to successive radiation variables.
- Unit-weight control-variate events may simplify downstream experimental reweighting and uncertainty propagation.
- Processes whose negatives come mainly from over-subtraction may gain more from the conditional control variate than from further tuning of the physics dipoles alone.
- Pairing the method with amplitude surrogates would confine expensive or surrogate evaluations to the residual only, compounding the saving.
Editorial analysis
A structured set of objections, weighed in public.
Referee Report
Summary. The authors construct neural control variates (NCVs) for Monte Carlo integration and event generation, built from two normalizing flows with learned scalar normalizations (Eq. 3), so that the control variate has a known integral and its compensating term can be sampled directly with unit-weight events (Eq. 5). A nested variant (Eqs. 9–14) treats Born-like and radiation variables separately, acting at NLO as a trainable finite subtraction on top of Catani–Seymour dipoles. The method is benchmarked on two toy integrands, on LO gg→tt̄gg (factor ~2.7 unweighting-efficiency gain over MadNIS, Table 2), and on NLO e⁺e⁻→tt̄g and e⁺e⁻→qq̄g, where the residual negative-weight contribution is reduced by ~90% and ~85% and the relative variance by factors of ~6–10 against Vegas/MadNIS (Tables 3–4). The identities in §2 are standard and correctly specialized, the comparisons use independent baselines on identical integrands, and differential distributions are validated bin-by-bin against MadNIS/Vegas (Figs. 2, 4).
Significance. If the results hold, this is a useful and general addition to the neural-importance-sampling toolbox: the signed two-flow control variate is a genuinely new construction in this context, the nested conditional variant mapping onto the Born-plus-real structure of subtracted NLO cross sections is elegant, and the construction is exact — the unbiasedness of the estimator in Eqs. (4)–(5) is an identity, not a fit. The benchmarks are honest: fixed, published hyperparameters ("we do not optimize the hyperparameters"), independent baselines on the same integrands, explicit sign-floor analysis (Eqs. 36–37, 45) showing MadNIS already saturates the sign-limited variance floor and that only integrand modification can go below it. The trainable-subtraction viewpoint for NLO is conceptually appealing and subtraction-scheme-independent. The two caveats below concern how the headline claims — "avoid negative weights" and "significantly reduces the computational cost" — are supported, not the correctness of the method.
major comments (3)
- [§4.3–4.4, Tables 3–4, Eq. (5)] The 'sign removal' claim is established only for the residual sample, but the final unweighted event sample includes the trivially sampled negative-flow events, which carry weight −1 (Eq. 5, 'their events carry unit weight ±1'). From Tables 3–4 one can reconstruct the negative-weight fraction of the combined unweighted sample: for e+e−→tt̄g 1-NCV, C−,θ/σ=21.3% and σ−res/σ=0.4% give a negative-event fraction of roughly (21.3+0.4)/(75.6+21.3+46.1+0.4)≈15%, versus ≈4% for MadNIS; for e+e−→qq̄g 1-NCV with C−,θ/σ=84.1%, the combined negative fraction is ≈32% versus ≈11% for MadNIS. Correspondingly, the Kish factor of the combined sample ((σ/σabs)² ≈ 0.49 and ≈0.14) is substantially worse than the MadNIS baseline (≈0.92 and ≈0.79). Since negative-weight events cost in downstream simulation regardless of whether they originate from the residual or the trivial term, the abstract's 'avoid negativ
- [§4.3 (Eq. 114 and following), §5, Tables 6–7] The abstract and §5 claim that the method 'significantly reduces the computational cost of LO and NLO predictions', and §4.3 argues that 54–65% of the tt̄g cross section is absorbed into the trivially sampled Cθ term, saving loop-amplitude evaluations. All quoted gains (RV_σ, εuw, σ−res/σ) are inference metrics conditional on trained networks. The training itself is expensive: the losses of Eqs. (15)/(33) require f (and at NLO the full B,V,I,R,S,J combination) on mixture samples each iteration; Tables 6–7 give 10⁴ iterations × 1024 batch (LO) and 3.6×10⁴ × 8192 (NLO), i.e. O(10⁷) and O(3×10⁸) integrand evaluations respectively, plus the VEGAS re-adaptation of g_neg to the negative residual every 250 steps (§4.2). No total evaluation counts, wall-clock, or break-even sample size relative to MadNIS/Vegas (which have their own, smaller, training costs) are reported. The demonstrated stateme
- [§4.3–4.4, Eq. (112)] The NLO benchmarks are shown for a single collider energy and a single Durham resolution (√s=1 TeV, ycut=10⁻³, Eq. 112), with the jet boundary placed directly in the subtraction-affected region. The negative-weight sources the NCV targets (measurement-function mismatch, over-subtraction away from singular limits) depend strongly on ycut and on whether α-restricted dipoles are used (the paper itself notes the α-restriction option, §4.4). The repeated disclaimer that hyperparameters are not optimized leaves open whether the gains survive re-tuning per setup or transfer across ycut values. This does not need to become a scan, but at minimum the paper should state whether the Table 7 settings were re-used unchanged between tt̄g and qq̄g, and comment on expected sensitivity to ycut; a second ycut value for one process would substantially strengthen the NLO claim.
minor comments (7)
- [§2.1, after Eq. (13)] Typo: 'does not generate an variance' → 'any variance'.
- [§4.3, paragraph after Eq. (114)] Typo: 'where all all methods agree'. Also in Figure 4 the ratio panels show only NCV/MadNIS; including the Vegas ratio would make the comparison complete.
- [Table 2] The caption formatting 'Metric λneg =10 λneg =0 only NIS' is garbled. The row Neff/N(res)=0.000 for λneg=0 is consistent with the 13.7% negative residual but should perhaps be quoted with an uncertainty or as <10⁻³.
- [§2.2, discussion after Eq. (18)] The treatment of Z_NIS and Z_neg as 'conventions rather than derived quantities' is acceptable, but since Z_neg is degenerate with βmax (only βmax/Z_neg is meaningful), it would help to state already in §2.2 that all quoted βmax values refer to the normalization choices of Eqs. (44)/(113), as is done for the toy model.
- [§3.2, Eq. (55)] ε_cuts^p is assumed to have negligible statistical uncertainty (after Eq. 55); please state the sample size used for this estimate, since RV_σ(res) values such as 0.078 in Table 2 inherit this assumption.
- [§2.1, after Eq. (5)] The claim that the NCV events are 'unweighted with perfect efficiency' (after Eq. 5) holds for the positive flow; the negative-flow events carry weight −1. A half-sentence anticipating the discussion requested in the major comment would avoid confusion here.
- [§1, citations of Ref. [70]] The classical combined control-variate + importance-sampling reference [70] is appropriately cited; it would be fair to add one sentence on what the neural two-flow construction adds over the Vegas-based combination of [70], since the integration-side idea overlaps.
Circularity Check
No significant circularity: unbiased NCV estimator is standard control-variate algebra; reported gains are empirical residual metrics against independent baselines, not forced by definition or self-citation.
full rationale
The paper’s load-bearing identities—∫c_θ = C_+ − C_− (Eqs. 3–4), the residual estimator σ = ⟨(f−c_θ)/g⟩ + C_θ (Eq. 5), and the nested conditional/unconditional split (Eqs. 9–14, 103–107)—are the classical control-variate construction: any function with a known integral may be subtracted without bias. That algebra does not force small residual variance, positivity, or the quoted factors (f_uw_gain ≃ 2.7, RV reductions ~10×, σ⁻_res/σ drops of 85–90%). Those are measured post-training on independent evaluation samples against Vegas, MadNIS, and MG5aMC on the same integrands (Tables 1–4, Figs. 2, 4–5), with differential distributions required to match truth. Self-citations (MadNIS, MadSpace) supply sampling infrastructure and baselines, not a uniqueness premise that makes the NCV result tautological. The Müller et al. NCV citation and the Shyamsundar IS+CV citation are external method references. Training losses (Eqs. 15, 33) fit flows to f± and residuals; they do not redefine the target cross section as the fit. End-to-end training-cost amortization is unreported, but that is a completeness issue, not circularity. Score 0 is appropriate.
Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger
free parameters (4)
- λ_int, λ_neg, λ_cut =
O(1) values (0.5–10)
- β_max and annealing schedule =
β_max = 10–30
- flow architecture (layers, bins, hidden dim) =
3–4 layers, 10–32 bins, 64–256 hidden
- mixture coefficients and g_neg re-adaptation interval =
equal mixture; re-adapt every 250 steps
axioms (4)
- standard math Classical control-variate identity: ∫(f−c)+∫c = ∫f whenever ∫c is known exactly
- domain assumption Normalizing flows can approximate the positive and negative parts of a square-integrable density on the unit hypercube to arbitrary accuracy
- domain assumption Catani–Seymour dipole subtraction renders the real-emission integrand integrable and cancels virtual poles
- domain assumption Infrared-safe measurement functions satisfy J(Φ_{n+1})→J(Φ̃_n) in soft/collinear limits
invented entities (2)
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signed two-flow neural control variate (c_θ = C_+ p_+ − C_− p_−)
no independent evidence
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nested conditional/unconditional NCV for Born-plus-real structure
no independent evidence
read the original abstract
We employ neural control variates to minimize the range of event weights and avoid negative weights for phase-space integration and event generation. A signed control variate, built from two normalizing flows, fulfills both tasks. Combined with neural importance sampling, it significantly reduces the computational cost of LO and NLO predictions. For the NLO case, our conditional neural control variate can be viewed as a trainable subtraction term, complementing the established physics subtraction schemes for enhanced sampling performance.
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Butter, Anja and Dillon, Barry M. and Plehn, Tilman and Vogel, Lorenz. Performance versus resilience in modern quark-gluon tagging. SciPost Phys. Core. 2023. doi:10.21468/SciPostPhysCore.6.4.085. arXiv:2212.10493
Pith/arXiv arXiv 2023
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[52]
MadNIS - Neural multi-channel importance sampling
Heimel, Theo and Winterhalder, Ramon and Butter, Anja and Isaacson, Joshua and Krause, Claudius and Maltoni, Fabio and Mattelaer, Olivier and Plehn, Tilman. MadNIS - Neural multi-channel importance sampling. SciPost Phys. 2023. doi:10.21468/SciPostPhys.15.4.141. arXiv:2212.06172
Pith/arXiv arXiv 2023
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[53]
Modern Machine Learning for LHC Physicists
Plehn, Tilman and Butter, Anja and Dillon, Barry and Heimel, Theo and Krause, Claudius and Winterhalder, Ramon. Modern Machine Learning for LHC Physicists. 2022. arXiv:2211.01421
Pith/arXiv arXiv 2022
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[54]
Ghosh, Aishik and Nachman, Benjamin and Plehn, Tilman and Shire, Lily and Tait, Tim M. P. and Whiteson, Daniel. Statistical patterns of theory uncertainties. SciPost Phys. Core. 2023. doi:10.21468/SciPostPhysCore.6.2.045. arXiv:2210.15167
Pith/arXiv arXiv 2023
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[55]
Cornering extended Starobinsky inflation with CMB and SKA
Modak, Tanmoy and R. Cornering extended Starobinsky inflation with CMB and SKA. SciPost Phys. 2023. doi:10.21468/SciPostPhys.15.2.047. arXiv:2210.05698
Pith/arXiv arXiv 2023
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[56]
Maltoni, F. and others. TF07 Snowmass Report: Theory of Collider Phenomena. 2022. doi:10.2172/1898811. arXiv:2210.02591
Pith/arXiv arXiv 2022
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[57]
Two invertible networks for the matrix element method
Butter, Anja and Heimel, Theo and Martini, Till and Peitzsch, Sascha and Plehn, Tilman. Two invertible networks for the matrix element method. SciPost Phys. 2023. doi:10.21468/SciPostPhys.15.3.094. arXiv:2210.00019
Pith/arXiv arXiv 2023
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[58]
To profile or to marginalize - A SMEFT case study
Brivio, Ilaria and Bruggisser, Sebastian and Elmer, Nina and Geoffray, Emma and Luchmann, Michel and Plehn, Tilman. To profile or to marginalize - A SMEFT case study. SciPost Phys. 2024. doi:10.21468/SciPostPhys.16.1.035. arXiv:2208.08454
Pith/arXiv arXiv 2024
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[59]
Hazma meets HERWIG4DM: precision gamma-ray, neutrino, and positron spectra for light dark matter
Coogan, Adam and Morrison, Logan and Plehn, Tilman and Profumo, Stefano and Reimitz, Peter. Hazma meets HERWIG4DM: precision gamma-ray, neutrino, and positron spectra for light dark matter. JCAP. 2022. doi:10.1088/1475-7516/2022/11/033. arXiv:2207.07634
Pith/arXiv arXiv 2022
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[60]
Loop amplitudes from precision networks
Badger, Simon and Butter, Anja and Luchmann, Michel and Pitz, Sebastian and Plehn, Tilman. Loop amplitudes from precision networks. SciPost Phys. Core. 2023. doi:10.21468/SciPostPhysCore.6.2.034. arXiv:2206.14831
Pith/arXiv arXiv 2023
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[61]
and Favaro, Luigi and Plehn, Tilman and Sorrenson, Peter and Kr
Dillon, Barry M. and Favaro, Luigi and Plehn, Tilman and Sorrenson, Peter and Kr. A normalized autoencoder for LHC triggers. SciPost Phys. Core. 2023. doi:10.21468/SciPostPhysCore.6.4.074. arXiv:2206.14225
arXiv 2023
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[62]
Campbell, J. M. and others. Event generators for high-energy physics experiments. SciPost Phys. 2024. doi:10.21468/SciPostPhys.16.5.130. arXiv:2203.11110
Pith/arXiv arXiv 2024
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[63]
Theory, phenomenology, and experimental avenues for dark showers: a Snowmass 2021 report
Albouy, Guillaume and others. Theory, phenomenology, and experimental avenues for dark showers: a Snowmass 2021 report. Eur. Phys. J. C. 2022. doi:10.1140/epjc/s10052-022-11048-8. arXiv:2203.09503
Pith/arXiv arXiv 2021
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[64]
Jets and Jet Substructure at Future Colliders
Bonilla, Johan and others. Jets and Jet Substructure at Future Colliders. Front. in Phys. 2022. doi:10.3389/fphy.2022.897719. arXiv:2203.07462
arXiv 2022
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[65]
Machine learning and LHC event generation
Badger, Simon and others. Machine learning and LHC event generation. SciPost Phys. 2023. doi:10.21468/SciPostPhys.14.4.079. arXiv:2203.07460
Pith/arXiv arXiv 2023
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[66]
Ephemeral Learning - Augmenting Triggers with Online-Trained Normalizing Flows
Butter, Anja and Diefenbacher, Sascha and Kasieczka, Gregor and Nachman, Benjamin and Plehn, Tilman and Shih, David and Winterhalder, Ramon. Ephemeral Learning - Augmenting Triggers with Online-Trained Normalizing Flows. SciPost Phys. 2022. doi:10.21468/SciPostPhys.13.4.087. arXiv:2202.09375
Pith/arXiv arXiv 2022
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[67]
Calomplification the power of generative calorimeter models
Bieringer, Sebastian and Butter, Anja and Diefenbacher, Sascha and Eren, Engin and Gaede, Frank and Hundhausen, Daniel and Kasieczka, Gregor and Nachman, Benjamin and Plehn, Tilman and Trabs, Mathias. Calomplification the power of generative calorimeter models. JINST. 2022. doi:10.1088/1748-0221/17/09/P09028. arXiv:2202.07352
Pith/arXiv arXiv 2022
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[68]
Buss, Thorsten and Dillon, Barry M. and Finke, Thorben and Kr. What's anomalous in LHC jets?. SciPost Phys. 2023. doi:10.21468/SciPostPhys.15.4.168. arXiv:2202.00686
Pith/arXiv arXiv 2023
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[69]
and Kerner, Matthias and Butter, Anja and Heinrich, Gudrun and Plehn, Tilman
Winterhalder, Ramon and Magerya, Vitaly and Villa, Emilio and Jones, Stephen P. and Kerner, Matthias and Butter, Anja and Heinrich, Gudrun and Plehn, Tilman. Targeting multi-loop integrals with neural networks. SciPost Phys. 2022. doi:10.21468/SciPostPhys.12.4.129. arXiv:2112.09145
Pith/arXiv arXiv 2022
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[70]
Probing the Inflaton Potential with SKA
Modak, Tanmoy and Plehn, Tilman and R. Probing the Inflaton Potential with SKA. SciPost Phys. Core. 2022. doi:10.21468/SciPostPhysCore.5.3.037. arXiv:2112.09148
Pith/arXiv arXiv 2022
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[71]
Generative networks for precision enthusiasts
Butter, Anja and Heimel, Theo and Hummerich, Sander and Krebs, Tobias and Plehn, Tilman and Rousselot, Armand and Vent, Sophia. Generative networks for precision enthusiasts. SciPost Phys. 2023. doi:10.21468/SciPostPhys.14.4.078. arXiv:2110.13632
Pith/arXiv arXiv 2023
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[72]
Back to the formula - LHC edition
Butter, Anja and Plehn, Tilman and Soybelman, Nathalie and Brehmer, Johann. Back to the formula - LHC edition. SciPost Phys. 2024. doi:10.21468/SciPostPhys.16.1.037. arXiv:2109.10414
Pith/arXiv arXiv 2024
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and Kasieczka, Gregor and Olischlager, Hans and Plehn, Tilman and Sorrenson, Peter and Vogel, Lorenz
Dillon, Barry M. and Kasieczka, Gregor and Olischlager, Hans and Plehn, Tilman and Sorrenson, Peter and Vogel, Lorenz. Symmetries, safety, and self-supervision. SciPost Phys. 2022. doi:10.21468/SciPostPhys.12.6.188. arXiv:2108.04253
Pith/arXiv arXiv 2022
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[74]
From models to SMEFT and back?
Brivio, Ilaria and Bruggisser, Sebastian and Geoffray, Emma and Killian, Wolfgang and Kr. From models to SMEFT and back?. SciPost Phys. 2022. doi:10.21468/SciPostPhys.12.1.036. arXiv:2108.01094
Pith/arXiv arXiv 2022
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[75]
Unsupervised hadronic SUEP at the LHC
Barron, Jared and Curtin, David and Kasieczka, Gregor and Plehn, Tilman and Spourdalakis, Aris. Unsupervised hadronic SUEP at the LHC. JHEP. 2021. doi:10.1007/JHEP12(2021)129. arXiv:2107.12379
Pith/arXiv arXiv 2021
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[76]
Shared Data and Algorithms for Deep Learning in Fundamental Physics
Benato, Lisa and others. Shared Data and Algorithms for Deep Learning in Fundamental Physics. Comput. Softw. Big Sci. 2022. doi:10.1007/s41781-022-00082-6. arXiv:2107.00656
Pith/arXiv arXiv 2022
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[77]
and Plehn, Tilman and Sauer, Christof and Sorrenson, Peter
Dillon, Barry M. and Plehn, Tilman and Sauer, Christof and Sorrenson, Peter. Better Latent Spaces for Better Autoencoders. SciPost Phys. 2021. doi:10.21468/SciPostPhys.11.3.061. arXiv:2104.08291
Pith/arXiv arXiv 2021
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Understanding Event-Generation Networks via Uncertainties
Bellagente, Marco and Haussmann, Manuel and Luchmann, Michel and Plehn, Tilman. Understanding Event-Generation Networks via Uncertainties. SciPost Phys. 2022. doi:10.21468/SciPostPhys.13.1.003. arXiv:2104.04543
Pith/arXiv arXiv 2022
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and Keilbach, Fabian and Plehn, Tilman and Kasieczka, Gregor and Whiteson, Daniel
Baldi, Pierre and Blecher, Lukas and Butter, Anja and Collado, Julian and Howard, Jessica N. and Keilbach, Fabian and Plehn, Tilman and Kasieczka, Gregor and Whiteson, Daniel. How to GAN Higher Jet Resolution. SciPost Phys. 2022. doi:10.21468/SciPostPhys.13.3.064. arXiv:2012.11944
Pith/arXiv arXiv 2022
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Measuring QCD Splittings with Invertible Networks
Bieringer, Sebastian and Butter, Anja and Heimel, Theo and H. Measuring QCD Splittings with Invertible Networks. SciPost Phys. 2021. doi:10.21468/SciPostPhys.10.6.126. arXiv:2012.09873
Pith/arXiv arXiv 2021
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