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Evaluation Pitfalls and Sparsity Limitations in LLM-based Confidence Estimates for Classification

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Pith's one-line read The paper shows that LLM self-reported confidence scores are so concentrated on a few values that the choice of interpolation in AUARC flips method rankings, and that weighting digit logprobs restores fine-grained scores at no extra…

desk verdict The sparsity and interpolation findings are solid and worth a serious look; the proposed verbalization logprobs is clever but the +2.3 AUARC claim rests on one model and no error bars. read the letter →

arxiv 2608.04899 v1 pith:CH7A2ZXY submitted 2026-08-05 cs.CL

classification cs.CL
keywords confidenceestimationselectiveclassificationverbalizationAUARCinterpolationtokenlogprobssparsitylargelanguagemodels
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The pith

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The reading

The paper argues that confidence scores produced by asking an LLM to verbalize its own probability are not continuous: one model produced only eight distinct values on SST-2, with more than half of all answers stating exactly 95%. That sparsity is not just a practical nuisance, because the standard way of computing the area under the accuracy-rejection curve connects the few observed points with straight lines, which artificially inflates the scores of sparse methods; switching to stepwise interpolation drops those methods by up to 4.5 points and flips the supposed best method into the worst. The paper then introduces verbalization logprobs, which replaces the sampled digit string with an expectation over the model's token probabilities for each digit, turning 8–12 distinct values into 630–2,227. It reports that this method beats vanilla verbalization by 2.3 AUARC points at no additional inference cost, and matters because selective classification depends on being able to set fine-grained rejection thresholds.

What carries the argument

The load-bearing object is the verbalization logprobs estimator: for a verbalized confidence whose tens digit is token $x_i$ and whose units digit is token $x_{i+1}$, the confidence is $$\sum_{d=0}^{9} 10\,d\,P(x_i=d) + \sum_{d=0}^{9} d\,P(x_{i+1}=d),$$ computed from the model's per-token probabilities rather than from the sampled digit string. The paper pairs this with the evaluation mechanism: AUARC computed with stepwise rather than linear interpolation, which is what makes sparse scores comparable. The estimator's job is to re-introduce the information discarded when a model says '95' and the confidence is recorded as exactly 0.95; the stepwise AUARC rule stops that sparsity from silently inflating the scores of weak methods.

What would settle it

Run verbalization logprobs on a model whose tokenizer emits '95' as one token rather than '9' and '5', and compare AUARC rankings with a model that has single-digit tokens: if the advantage disappears or cannot be calculated, the single-token assumption is load-bearing. A second test is to recompute the method with exact conditional digit probabilities—one forward pass for each possible tens digit—on the same four datasets; if the independence approximation changes the rankings or the gains, the approximation rather than the underlying signal is driving the reported result.

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Extended reading notes

Core claim

The discovery is that sparsity in verbalized confidence is large, consequential, and fixable with information already present in the API response. Across four datasets and two LLMs, 45–93% of verbalized confidences fall in the top five values, and the digit 95 dominates. In the AUARC evaluation, the interpolation step—whether the accuracy-rejection curve is joined by straight lines or by steps—changes absolute scores by 0.7–4.5 points and reverses rankings, so consistency sampling, best under linear interpolation, becomes worst under stepwise interpolation. The paper claims that stepwise interpolation is the correct choice for sparse confidence scores, and that under it the proposed verbalization logprobs method—weighting each digit of the verbalized number by its token probability to form an expected value—achieves the best AUARC, +2.3 points over vanilla verbalization, reduces concentration in top-five values from 92% to 1%, and, unlike sampling-based methods, does so with a single inference call.

Load-bearing premise

The method's benefits depend on the API returning faithful token probabilities for all ten digits at both the tens and units positions and on each digit being a separate single token; if the provider only exposes top-k logprobs, or the tokenizer merges digits, or the model outputs a single- or three-digit number, the estimator cannot be computed as defined.

Editorial extensions

If this is right

  • Switching published AUARC evaluations from linear to stepwise interpolation will reorder the rankings of verbalization and sampling methods; consistency sampling, the winner under linear interpolation, becomes the loser.
  • Sparse confidence scores force large rejection jumps to gain small accuracy: on SST-2, moving from 97.9% to 98.7% accuracy requires rejecting 39.7% of predictions instead of 23.6%.
  • Verbalization logprobs gives fine-grained thresholds, with at least 630 unique confidence values per dataset versus 8–12, so a user can reach at least 98% accuracy by rejecting 28.1% of examples instead of 39.7%.
  • The method matches the strongest sampling baseline on AUARC (0.736 vs. 0.734) at 1.7× inference cost instead of 6.8×, since it needs only one call.
  • Verbalization logprobs outperforms both vanilla verbalization and raw token logprobs on the metrics reported, indicating that the digit distribution carries signal beyond the class-token probability.

Reading between the lines

Editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • Beyond the paper's experiments, the interpolation critique should apply to other threshold-based metrics such as AUPRC, AUROC, and PRR whenever the score distribution is discrete; the paper notes this but does not test it.
  • The independent-position approximation is not intrinsic: with full model access one could compute the exact conditional expectation of the units digit given each tens digit, and the formula could be generalized to one-digit or three-digit verbalizations, removing the currently undefined cases.
  • The strong preference for values like 95, 90, and 98 suggests that sparsity is partly a prompt-scale artifact, so alternative elicitation formats—open-ended numbers, natural-language quantifiers, or verbalized distributions—might be a complementary fix that the paper does not explore.
  • If API providers increasingly expose full logprobs, verbalization logprobs becomes a near-free add-on to existing verbalization prompts, which could make sampling-based confidence estimation less attractive in cost-sensitive deployment.
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Referee Report

3 major / 6 minor

Summary. This paper studies the sparsity of confidence estimates produced by prompted LLMs for classification. It reports that vanilla verbalization yields very few distinct confidence values, e.g., Qwen3-32B produces only eight unique values on SST-2 with more than half at 95%, and that 45-93% of confidence values concentrate in the top five values across four datasets and two models. It shows that the choice of linear versus stepwise interpolation when computing AUARC changes both scores and rankings, in one case moving consistency sampling from first to last. To address sparsity, the paper proposes verbalization logprobs, which computes an expected confidence from the token probabilities of the tens and units digits of the verbalized score, and reports a +2.3 AUARC improvement over vanilla verbalization at no additional inference cost. The main claims are supported by experiments with Qwen3-32B and, for the sparsity and interpolation findings, Claude 3.7 Sonnet.

Significance. If the descriptive findings hold, they are a useful and practically important contribution: they identify a measurement artifact in a widely used evaluation metric and quantify its effect. The paper ships no code, but the histograms, concentration statistics, and the replication across two models, four datasets, two confidence ranges, and reasoning settings make the sparsity and interpolation-reversal findings convincing. The proposed verbalization logprobs method is elegant and cost-effective, but its empirical validation is currently too thin to support the advertised gains; this is the main weakness.

major comments (3)
  1. [Section 4, Table 3] The headline improvement of verbalization logprobs (+2.3 AUARC over vanilla verbalization, and 'best' AUARC) is based on one model (Qwen3-32B) and on dataset-averaged scores, with no per-dataset breakdown, confidence intervals, or significance tests in the main text or appendix. The gap to the strongest baseline, verbalization sampling, is 0.736 vs 0.734, which is much smaller than the headline gain and could easily flip under bootstrap resampling. Appendix B reports Claude 3.7 Sonnet for the other methods but does not evaluate verbalization logprobs, so there is no second-model confirmation. Please add per-dataset tables, uncertainty estimates, and at least one additional model, or rephrase the contribution as 'comparable to verbalization sampling at lower cost' rather than 'best.'
  2. [Section 4, unnumbered equation and footnote 5] The proposed expectation treats the two digit positions as independent, using P(x_{i+1}=d) from the single actually generated continuation. The paper acknowledges this in footnote 5 as an approximation, but the magnitude of the resulting error is not quantified. Because the tens digit contributes ten times the units digit, even a small bias in the units term could shift the confidence value enough to affect threshold-based metrics at the scale of the reported 2.3-point difference. More fundamentally, the formula is defined only for exactly two digit tokens; confidence outputs such as '5' or '100' are not covered, and the paper does not state how such outputs were parsed in the experiments. Please specify the parsing rule and provide an empirical check of the approximation, for example by using the full next-token distribution available through vLLM to compute the exact conditional expectation for a subset of examples.
  3. [Section 4, Table 4 and surrounding paragraph] The correlation analysis is descriptive, not a theoretical justification for the method. A Spearman correlation of 0.89 between verbalization logprobs and vanilla verbalization shows that the two scores are related but does not explain why the weighted expectation is better calibrated or better for selective classification; the AUARC gap could be due to the finer resolution alone. The statement that 'verbalized digit distribution carries useful confidence signals beyond what token logprobs provides' needs direct evidence, such as per-dataset coverage-risk curves or calibration breakdowns comparing verbalization logprobs with token logprobs and verbalization sampling.
minor comments (6)
  1. [Section 3, Table 2] The notation '0.8081→50.683' is hard to parse; please add a table note explaining that the superscripts are ranks before and after switching interpolation, or split the columns into linear score, stepwise score, and ranks.
  2. [Section 4] The equation should be numbered and the notation x_i and x_{i+1} defined immediately before the equation; currently the variables are introduced only in the following prose.
  3. [Figure 1] The two shaded rejection regions are described in the caption, but the caption does not state which curve (stepwise or linear) the shaded area corresponds to; please clarify.
  4. [Appendix B] The tables for Claude 3.7 Sonnet do not include verbalization logprobs; this absence should be mentioned explicitly in Section 4 when the paper discusses generality, not left to the reader to infer.
  5. [Limitations] The Limitations section should mention the variable-length output parsing issue in addition to the single-token-per-digit tokenization assumption, since both constrain when the method is applicable.
  6. [Section 3] The paper recommends 'stepwise interpolation' but does not define it formally; please define it as the integral over the step function that keeps accuracy constant between consecutive distinct confidence thresholds.

Circularity Check

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No significant circularity: the paper's claims are empirical and the proposed method is a fixed, parameter-free transformation evaluated against external baselines.

full rationale

The paper does not fit free parameters and then relabel them as predictions; verbalization logprobs is a fixed formula that weights verbalized digit tokens by their token probabilities. The main claims—sparsity of verbalized confidences, the effect of interpolation on AUARC rankings, and the relative performance of methods—are empirical observations on standard datasets with external baselines. There are no self-citations that carry argumentative weight, and no uniqueness theorem or prior-work premise is invoked to force the proposed method. The stated limitations (tokenization assumptions and the independence approximation in computing the expectation) are explicitly acknowledged in the manuscript and do not make the evaluation circular. The correlation analysis between verbalization logprobs and vanilla verbalization is descriptive rather than a derivation of the method's advantage. Therefore, no circular step can be identified, and the derivation chain is self-contained with respect to the paper's claims.

Assumptions & free parameters 0 free parameters · 3 assumptions · 0 invented entities

No free parameters are fitted; the method is a fixed transformation using digit weights 10 and 1. The assumptions are the tokenization of digits, the availability of logprobs for all digits, the independence approximation, and the normative choice of stepwise interpolation.

assumptions (3)
  • domain assumption Each digit of the verbalized confidence is a single token, so the tens and units digits can be identified and averaged over.
    Stated in Section 4 and Limitations: 'assumes that each digit is consistently tokenized as a single token'. If tokenizers split differently, the expectation formula does not apply.
  • domain assumption The marginal token probabilities at the tens and units positions, as returned by standard logprobs APIs, are sufficient to approximate the expected confidence value (treating the two positions as independent).
    The paper's equation in Section 4 uses P(x_i=d) and P(x_{i+1}=d) without conditioning; the independence approximation is acknowledged in a footnote. If dependence is strong, the estimate may be biased.
  • domain assumption Stepwise interpolation is the correct way to compute AUARC for sparse confidence outputs.
    Section 3 argues that linear interpolation artificially inflates scores because intermediate thresholds are unachievable. This is a methodological stance, not a formal theorem, and is load-bearing for the ranking reversal finding.

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Confidence estimation is essential when LLMs are used for classification, indicating when predictions can be trusted. However, common approaches such as verbalization produce extremely sparse outputs. For instance, Qwen3-32B verbalizes only eight unique confidence values on SST-2, with over half being exactly 95%, a pattern we observe consistently across four datasets and two LLMs. Besides limiting practical utility, we show that this sparsity critically affects evaluation: the choice of interpolation in area under the accuracy-rejection curve (AUARC) dramatically alters rankings, with consistency sampling dropping from best to worst under stepwise versus linear interpolation. We advocate for standardizing stepwise interpolation for a fairer comparison. Under such a fair evaluation, we find that weighting verbalized digits by token probabilities, a method we term verbalization logprobs, addresses sparsity and achieves the best AUARC (+2.3 points over vanilla verbalization) without incurring additional inference cost.

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Figure 1
Figure 1. Sparse confidences limit practical utility. (a) Histogram of vanilla verbalized confidences on SST-2 with Qwen3-32B, showing extreme sparsity with only eight unique values (0.6, 0.65, 0.7, 0.75, 0.85, 0.9, 0.95, 0.98). The shaded regions highlight two rejection strategies: rejecting 205 samples (lighter gray) achieves 97.9% accuracy, while rejecting 345 samples (darker gray) achieves 98.7% accuracy. (b) Accuracy-rej… view at source ↗
Figure 2
Figure 2. Sparse confidences for confidence scoring range 0–9. (a) Histogram of vanilla verbalized confidences on SST-2 with Qwen3-32B using the confidence range 0–9 (normalized to 0–1). Only seven unique values appear, with the majority concentrated at 8 9 and 9 9 . (b) Accuracy-rejection curve demonstrating limited threshold choices due to sparsity. • Consistency sampling (Xiong et al., 2024): The same prompt is executed mu… view at source ↗

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