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Field-Widened Multimode Interferometer with Long Time-Bin Delay Using a Multi-Pass Herriott Cell

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Pith's one-line read A folded mirror cell keeps a 12-nanosecond multimode interferometer in focus across a 0.4-degree field of view.

desk verdict A credible Herriott-cell field-widened interferometer with a 12 ns delay, but the 0.4° field-of-view claim is demonstrated only in one plane. read the letter →

arxiv 2608.13399 v1 pith:YCWZ6MYK submitted 2026-08-13 quant-ph physics.optics

Ramy Tannous , Stéphane Vinet , Kaylee Sherk , Kimia Mohammadi , Thomas Jennewein This is my paper · ORCID
classification quant-phphysics.optics
keywords field-widenedinterferometerHerriottcelltime-binencodingmultimodeinterferencefree-spacequantumcommunicationraytransfermatrixGaussianbeamletdecompositionopticaldelayline
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The pith

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The reading

This paper reports a passive optical receiver for time-bin encoded signals that keeps high interference visibility even when the incoming beam is spatially distorted or tilted. The design is an unbalanced Michelson interferometer in which the long arm is a multi-pass Herriott cell, folding more than three meters of path difference into a compact footprint and giving a 12 ns delay. By tuning the mirror separation and the flat-mirror distance so that the Herriott cell images the input ray back onto itself, the interferometer becomes field-widened: the output ray of the long path matches the reference path for a range of input angles. Ray-tracing simulations and a bulk-optics prototype show multimode visibilities above 0.95 for continuous-wave light, a time-bin interference visibility of 0.88 with 12 ns separated pulses, and a measured field of view of 0.4 degrees. The authors argue that this removes the need for adaptive optics in free-space links where pointing error and turbulence would otherwise scramble the spatial mode.

What carries the argument

The load-bearing component is the Herriott cell: two spherical mirrors facing each other so a beam bounces many times and acquires a long optical path in a short physical length. The argument runs through a $6\times 6$ ray transfer matrix for non-sequential ray tracing, where each round trip is computed by intersecting the ray with the mirror surface equation and applying vector reflection. The authors optimize the mirror separation $\ell$ and the distance $d_{fm}$ to the flat reference mirror so that the output ray of the long path matches the reference-path output in position and direction, measured by a norm-1 cost function. They report that this overlap condition also forces the second-order derivative of the optical path difference with respect to input angle to vanish, which is the field-widening condition. The designs are then verified in a Gaussian beamlet decomposition simulation that includes wavefront and polarization effects, and finally built as a proof of principle.

What would settle it

Rotate the prototype's input beam in the plane orthogonal to the tested horizontal plane and record visibility versus angle; if the visibility drops at angles well below 0.4 degrees, the field of view is not solid-angle isotropic and the claimed tolerance to arbitrary beam tilts would not hold.

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Core claim

The central claim is that an unbalanced Michelson interferometer whose long arm is a multi-pass Herriott cell can be field-widened by ray-matrix optimization, so that spatially multimode beams with large time-bin separations interfere with high visibility. The authors demonstrate this with a prototype that has a path difference of 12 ns and maintains interference visibility above 0.9 for both single-mode and multimode continuous-wave inputs, with a measured angular field of view of 0.4 degrees. In pulsed time-bin tests, the superposition visibility of 12 ns separated bins is 0.88 after propagation through a 5 m multimode fiber. On the authors' own accounting, this is the longest path difference achieved for a field-widened interferometer.

Load-bearing premise

The field-widening condition was optimized and tested only for ray angles in the horizontal plane of the Herriott cell pattern, so the claimed 0.4-degree field of view is experimentally evidenced in one azimuthal direction only.

Editorial extensions

If this is right

  • A free-space time-bin receiver can tolerate beam wander and telescope pointing error without adaptive optics, as long as angular deviations stay inside the field-widened region.
  • The reflective design works across a broad wavelength range, so a single device can serve multiple quantum emitters or spectrally multiplexed channels.
  • The small form factor at long delay opens a route to compact true-time-delay lines and delay-line quantum memories, which the paper identifies as future work.
  • The same interferometer, cascaded or adapted, can analyze frequency-bin qubits and support hybrid time-frequency protocols.

Reading between the lines

Editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • Because the experimental field-of-view test varied the input angle in the horizontal plane only, the 0.4-degree number is an azimuthal slice; an arbitrary tilt in the orthogonal plane may spoil visibility well before 0.4 degrees, so the solid-angle field of view is likely smaller than a naive $\pi(0.4^\circ)^2$ estimate suggests.
  • The equivalence between ray-overlap optimization and path-difference stationarity suggests that any imaging multi-pass cell satisfying the same ray-overlap condition will automatically be field-widened, a property that could be tested across different mirror radii and bounce numbers.
  • In a real atmospheric or satellite link, angle-of-incidence fluctuations are dynamic and two-dimensional; a laboratory test with a rotating tip-tilt mirror and a speckled input would give a more direct measure of the tolerance the design claims.
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Referee Report

4 major / 5 minor

Summary. The manuscript proposes and demonstrates a free-space time-bin interferometer based on a Herriott cell in a Michelson configuration. The design uses a 6x6 ray-transfer-matrix optimization over mirror separation and flat-mirror position to make the two arms overlap at the output for a range of input angles, thereby field-widening the interferometer; Gaussian-beamlet-decomposition simulations and a proof-of-principle prototype with a 12 ns delay are presented. Continuous-wave tests at 532 nm and 785 nm show visibilities of 0.98-0.99 for single-mode and 0.95-0.97 for multimode input, and a pulsed time-bin experiment reports a superposition visibility of 0.88 after propagation through a multimode fiber. The paper claims a 0.4 degree field of view and general robustness to angular misalignment.

Significance. Should the claims hold, this is a practically relevant step toward compact passive receivers for time-bin quantum communication over free-space channels, avoiding adaptive optics. The paper's strengths are the independent numerical check via GBD, the explicit design-parameter optimization rather than fitting to the measured visibility, and proof-of-principle data at a 12 ns delay with multimode input. The main caveats are that the field-of-view claim is evidenced only in one plane and the time-bin visibility lacks statistical analysis; both are fixable and do not undermine the core device demonstration.

major comments (4)
  1. [Section II and Fig. 7] The field-of-view claim is demonstrated only for angles in a single plane. Section II explicitly restricts the Herriott-cell patterns to the horizontal plane, and the angle-of-incidence sweeps in Fig. 4 and Fig. 7 are performed in one plane only, with no simulations or measurements for the orthogonal plane. The abstract's 'large field-of-view of 0.4 degrees' and the Section IV statement about robustness to 'angular deviations' are therefore supported only as a one-dimensional angular acceptance. For free-space channels, pointing errors and turbulence produce two-dimensional tilts, so the solid-angle field of view could be substantially smaller than implied. Please add vertical-plane simulations or measurements, or explicitly qualify the claim as a horizontal-plane field of view.
  2. [Section III, Fig. 7(b)] The quantitative '0.4 degree field-of-view' claim is not defined. The text says the input angle is varied 'until the visibility drops' but does not state the acceptance threshold (for example, V > 0.9 or V > 0.99) that defines the field of view, and the experimental visibility curves in Fig. 7(b) are shown without error bars or a description of how many repeated measurements were taken. Please specify the criterion used to extract the 0.4 degree value and provide the associated uncertainty.
  3. [Section II.A, overlap-optimization paragraph] The statement that minimizing the norm-1 distance between output positions and directions 'surprisingly ensures that the optical path difference has a minimized second order derivative' is load-bearing for the field-widening claim, but no derivation or numerical demonstration of this OPD flatness is given. The field-widening condition is a property of the optical path difference versus angle, not directly of ray overlap. Please provide an explicit expression or plot showing that the optimized parameters indeed minimize the second derivative of the OPD with respect to the input angle, or rephrase the claim to avoid asserting an unproven equivalence.
  4. [Section III, time-bin experiment (Fig. 8)] The time-bin superposition visibility of 0.88 is reported without an uncertainty, count statistics, or a description of the analysis procedure (for example, whether dark counts and background counts were subtracted, and how the constructive and destructive histograms were normalized). Since the paper uses this number to support the claim that the device is 'sufficient for quantum key distribution and entanglement swapping experiments,' please provide error bars and the fitting or integration details used to obtain the visibility.
minor comments (5)
  1. [Eq. (2)] The bottom-right entry of the 6x6 matrix appears to have a typo: the denominator should be F_x^2 + F_y^2 + F_z^2, and the numerator should involve F_z^2, not F_x^2, in the s_z row. Please check and correct this expression.
  2. [Fig. 2 caption] The caption reads 'R1 = 1000 mm and R1 = 700 mm' for both plots; the second radius should presumably be R2 = 700 mm.
  3. [Fig. 4 legend] The legend text 'The for uncorrected Michelson interferometers' appears to be missing a word, likely 'results' or 'curves'.
  4. [Fig. 7 caption] The caption says 'Angle of Incident [deg]'; this should read 'Angle of Incidence [deg]'.
  5. [Table I] The symbols in the header, especially 'N' and 'd_hc', are not defined in the caption; please define them and state the units for each column.

Circularity Check

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No circularity: the design parameters are optimized for ray overlap, while the claimed high visibility is independently verified by GBD simulation and by the prototype experiment.

full rationale

The derivation chain is self-contained. The design parameters (ℓ and d_fm) are optimized using a ray-transfer-matrix cost function that minimizes the norm-1 distance between the output rays of the Herriott-cell path and the flat-mirror path. This optimization determines the geometry; it does not fit the reported visibilities. The reported interference visibilities are then obtained from an independent non-sequential Gaussian-beamlet-decomposition simulation and from direct experimental measurements with CW lasers and an attenuated pulsed laser. Thus the visibility values are outputs of the modelling and measurement chain, not fitted inputs renamed as predictions. The field-widening condition is attributed to Hirschberg (Ref. [11]), and the Herriott-cell matrix method follows the external analysis of Ref. [17]; neither load-bearing step depends on a self-citation. Ref. [14] is a self-citation but appears only as one example of an imaging-based field-widened interferometer in the introduction and is not used to justify the central derivation. The high visibility is a physical consequence of the deliberately engineered overlap condition, which is expected and not logically circular. The skeptic's concern that the 0.4° field of view is demonstrated only for tilts in the horizontal plane is a scope/correctness limitation, not a circularity: it does not indicate that any claim reduces by construction to its inputs. Overall, no circular step is present.

Assumptions & free parameters 5 free parameters · 5 assumptions · 0 invented entities

The central design is a geometric optimization, not an empirical fit. The chosen mirror radii and aperture position are ad hoc design inputs; the optimized ell and d_fm solve the imaging condition. The main supporting assumptions are the validity of the ray-tracing models and the sufficiency of the ray-overlap criterion. No new physical entities are introduced.

free parameters (5)
  • R1 (radius of curvature, input HC mirror) = 1000 mm
    Chosen as design input, not fitted to the visibility result; sets the geometry of the Herriott cell.
  • R2 (radius of curvature, output HC mirror) = 700 mm
    Chosen as design input; together with R1 determines the spot pattern.
  • d_hc (input aperture distance from mirror center) = 20 cm
    Ad hoc choice for 2-inch optics; affects clipping and effective field of view.
  • ell (mirror separation) = 208.63 mm (prototype)
    Optimized to satisfy the imaging and field-widening condition via the cost function; not fitted to measured visibility. Multiple solutions exist, and the physical one is selected by aperture constraints.
  • d_fm (flat mirror position, short path) = 99.79 mm (prototype)
    Optimized for spatial overlap of the output rays; derived from the design condition, not from a data fit.
assumptions (5)
  • domain assumption The 6x6 ray transfer matrix method of Ref [17] correctly models non-sequential reflections in the Herriott cell.
    Used in Section II.A to compute output rays and optimize ell and d_fm. Assumes geometric optics, no diffraction or wavefront error.
  • domain assumption The Gaussian Beamlet Decomposition (GBD) in Raypier correctly models interference, wavefront, and polarization for the simulated designs.
    Used in Section II.B to compute visibility. The validity of the software's coherence model is assumed rather than independently verified.
  • domain assumption Matching the output ray position and direction of the two arms (norm-1 distance minimized) is sufficient for high interference visibility.
    Section II.A uses this cost function as the design criterion; the link to visibility is only checked later by GBD simulation and experiment.
  • domain assumption The field-widened condition is equivalent to the optical path difference having minimized second-order derivative with respect to input angle (Ref [11]).
    Invoked in Section II.A to interpret the optimization result. The paper states this condition emerges from the optimization but does not derive it.
  • domain assumption The 5 m OM4 multimode fiber output is a representative spatially multimode beam for testing.
    Used in the time-bin experiment to simulate a distorted spatial mode; a static speckle pattern may not capture dynamic turbulence.

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abstract

Interference of optical signals in free-space channels requires optical receivers to support many spatial modes due to atmospheric turbulence, typically necessitating adaptive optics systems. Field-widened interferometers offer a passive alternative, making them particularly attractive for time-bin encoded signals with delays on the order of one nanosecond. Here, we demonstrate a field-widened, multimode interferometer design that achieves a high interference visibility for spatially multimode beams with large time bin separations. The interference of the multimode beams is enabled using a multi-pass Herriott cell that enables a very long path separation with a small form-factor. The design is tested using both numerical ray-tracing simulations and proof-of-principle demonstrations. We create a prototype interferometer with a path length difference of 12ns and determine that it maintains a high interference visibility with a large field-of-view of $0.4^{\circ}$.

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Figure 1. FIG. 1: Conceptual design of the Herriott cell interferometer. [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p004_1.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 2. FIG. 2: (a) Analytical optimization of the HC to be an imaging system, the colour bar [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p006_2.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 3. FIG. 3: (Ray tracing simulation, constructive and destructive interference intensities in [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p008_3.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 4. Figure 4: FIG. 4: Ray tracing results of a varying angle of incidence test with a Gaussian single [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p009_4.png]
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Figure 5. Figure 5: FIG. 5: (a) Top view of the HC interferometer setup. (b) Horizontally spaced spots [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p010_5.png]
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Figure 6. Figure 6: FIG. 6: (a) Highly multimode beam used for visibility tests with a long coherence [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p011_6.png]
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Figure 7. Figure 7: FIG. 7: ( a) The angle-of-incidence setup with the interferometer on the six-leg hexapod [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p012_7.png]
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Figure 8. Figure 8: FIG. 8: The time-bin experimental setup (a). An unbalanced fiber interferometer is used [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p013_8.png]

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