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arxiv: 2606.22937 · v1 · pith:6K36CUN4new · submitted 2026-06-22 · ⚛️ nucl-th

Input-driven analysis in predicting nuclear charge radii using Monte Carlo dropout Bayesian neural network

Jia-Xin Liu , Zhen-Yan Xian , Yan Ya , Si-Ying Ma , Na Tang , Rong An This is my paper

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keywords nuclear charge radiiBayesian neural networkMonte Carlo dropoutquadrupole deformationshell quenchingshape phase transitionnuclear structure
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Bayesian neural network with physical inputs reproduces abrupt nuclear charge radius increases around N=60 and shell quenching at N=126

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The paper constructs a Monte Carlo dropout Bayesian neural network to predict charge radii for nuclei with Z at least 20 and A at least 40 by feeding in motivated physical inputs. These inputs encode pairing effects, isospin asymmetry, valence nucleon and hole correlations, quadrupole deformation parameters drawn from multiple models, local shape staggering in mercury isotopes, and a modified Casten factor to capture shell quenching. The resulting model yields comparable root-mean-square deviations on training and validation data and reproduces the sudden radius jump near N=60 for Z=37-40 chains plus the quenching effect at N=126 in bismuth isotopes. This demonstrates how input choices tied to nuclear structure can drive systematic predictions of nuclear sizes and shape changes.

Core claim

The input-driven Bayesian neural network with Monte Carlo dropout, supplied with quadrupole deformation parameters from FRDM, RMF, and WS models together with pairing, isospin, valence correlations, shape staggering, and modified Casten factor P*, produces comparable RMSD values across data sets while reproducing the abrupt increase in charge radii around N=60 along Z=37-40 isotopic chains and the shell quenching effect along bismuth isotopes at N=126, with minor deviations attributed to missing octupole deformation near N=130 and shape staggering in neutron-deficient regions.

What carries the argument

Monte Carlo dropout Bayesian neural network whose input layer encodes pairing effect, isospin asymmetry, valence-nucleon correlations, quadrupole deformation β20 from FRDM/RMF/WS, local shape staggering, and modified Casten factor P*

If this is right

  • The reproduced radius jump around N=60 serves as an indicator of rapid shape-phase transitions in finite nuclei.
  • Incorporating the modified Casten factor allows the network to capture shell quenching effects at N=126.
  • Comparable performance across FRDM, RMF, and WS deformation inputs indicates robustness to the choice of deformation source.
  • Deviations near N=130 point to the need for higher-order deformation terms in those regions.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • The same input-construction strategy could be tested on other nuclear observables such as binding energies or magnetic moments.
  • Combining deformation parameters from several models into a single averaged input might reduce sensitivity to model-specific errors.
  • Regions where the network shows persistent deviations could be used to flag where new experimental radius data are most needed.

Load-bearing premise

The quadrupole deformation parameters taken from FRDM, RMF, and WS models plus the other selected inputs are enough to capture the main variations in charge radii without needing explicit higher-order effects.

What would settle it

Systematic failure of the model to match measured charge radii in additional chains that exhibit known shape transitions or octupole deformation, or a clear reduction in deviations around N=130 once octupole terms are added to the inputs.

Figures

Figures reproduced from arXiv: 2606.22937 by Jia-xin Liu, Na Tang, Rong An, Si-Ying Ma, Yan Ya, Zhen-Yan Xian.

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Figure 2. Figure 2: FIG. 2. Variations of root-mean-square deviations (RMSDs) [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p010_2.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 3. Figure 3: FIG. 3. Nuclear chart displaying the absolute differences (in [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p012_3.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 4. Figure 4: FIG. 4. Charge radii of Kr, Rb, Sr, Y, and Zr isotopic chains ar [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p013_4.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 5. Figure 5: FIG. 5. Charge radii of Bi isotopes are depicted by the MCD-BN [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p016_5.png] view at source ↗
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Nuclei charge radii play an essential role in understanding the fundamental interactions of finite quantum fermion systems. In this work, input-driven Bayesian neural network based on the Monte Carlo dropout approach has been built to characterize the systematic evolution of charge radii of nuclei with proton number $Z\geq20$ and mass number A\geq40$. The motivated underlying mechanisms have been introduced into the input structures, which contain pairing effect, isospin asymmetry degree, the correlations between the valence nucleons and valence holes for neutron and proton, quadrupole deformation parameter $\beta_{20}$, and the local shape staggering phenomena of $^{181,183,185}$Hg isotopes.In addition, shell quenching effect is also taken into account by incorporating the modified Casten factor $P^{*}$ into the input structure. The quadrupole deformation parameters $\beta_{20}$ derived from finite-range droplet model (FRDM), relativistic mean field (RMF) theory and Weizs\"{a}cker-Skyrme (WS) approach are employed to analyze the local variations of nuclear charge radii.The hyperparameter is adjusted automatically in the constructed model.The calibrated results give comparable root-mean-square deviations (RMSD) in the training and validation sets with various shape deformation inputs. The abrupt increase in charge radii around N=60 is well reproduced along Z=37-40 isotopic chains, but this trend is less pronounced along Z=36 and 41 chains. This provides a indicator to confirm the rapid shape-phase transition regions around N=60 from the perspective of finite nuclei size. Shell quenching effect of charge radii along the bismuth isotopes are reproduced well at N=126, but slight deviations can be encountered due to the absence of high-order octupole deformation around N=130 regions and shape-staggering phenomena toward neutron-deficient regions, respectively. This means that...

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Referee Report

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Summary. The manuscript presents an input-driven Monte Carlo dropout Bayesian neural network for modeling nuclear charge radii with Z≥20 and A≥40. Physical mechanisms are encoded directly in the inputs: pairing, isospin asymmetry, valence nucleon/hole correlations, β20 quadrupole deformations taken from FRDM/RMF/WS, local shape staggering for Hg isotopes, and the modified Casten factor P* for shell quenching. The central claim is that the calibrated model yields comparable RMSD on training and validation sets and reproduces the abrupt radius increase around N=60 (Z=37-40 chains) together with shell quenching at N=126 in Bi isotopes.

Significance. If the quantitative performance and generalization claims are substantiated, the work illustrates how domain-specific inputs can be embedded in a Bayesian NN to capture selected nuclear-structure features such as shape-phase transitions and shell effects. The use of multiple independent β20 sources offers a limited robustness check. The significance is reduced, however, by the absence of numerical RMSD values and by the direct provision of deformation and shell inputs that already encode the reported trends.

major comments (2)
  1. [Abstract] Abstract: the claim that 'comparable root-mean-square deviations (RMSD) in the training and validation sets' are obtained supplies no numerical RMSD values, error bars, dataset sizes, or explicit validation protocol, leaving the quantitative support for the reproduction claim unassessable.
  2. [Input structure] Input structure (described in Abstract and Methods): β20 (from FRDM/RMF/WS) and P* are included precisely to encode the shape and shell effects whose reproduction is claimed. No ablation study that removes these inputs is reported, so it remains unclear whether the BNN extracts the N=60 and N=126 features from the remaining inputs or simply interpolates the supplied deformation data.

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We thank the referee for the careful reading and constructive comments. We address each major comment below and will revise the manuscript to improve clarity and quantitative support where appropriate.

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  1. Referee: [Abstract] Abstract: the claim that 'comparable root-mean-square deviations (RMSD) in the training and validation sets' are obtained supplies no numerical RMSD values, error bars, dataset sizes, or explicit validation protocol, leaving the quantitative support for the reproduction claim unassessable.

    Authors: We agree that the abstract would benefit from explicit numerical values. The results section reports RMSD values obtained with different deformation inputs, but these are not restated in the abstract. In the revised version we will insert the specific RMSD figures (with uncertainties where available), the sizes of the training and validation sets, and a concise description of the validation protocol. revision: yes

  2. Referee: [Input structure] Input structure (described in Abstract and Methods): β20 (from FRDM/RMF/WS) and P* are included precisely to encode the shape and shell effects whose reproduction is claimed. No ablation study that removes these inputs is reported, so it remains unclear whether the BNN extracts the N=60 and N=126 features from the remaining inputs or simply interpolates the supplied deformation data.

    Authors: The β20 values from three independent models and the modified Casten factor P* are deliberately supplied as physically motivated features so that the network can incorporate established nuclear-structure information. The comparable RMSD obtained across the three β20 sources already provides a limited robustness check. Nevertheless, we acknowledge that an explicit ablation study would strengthen the claim that the network is not merely interpolating the supplied deformations. We will add a paragraph in the revised manuscript that (i) reiterates the physical rationale for these inputs and (ii) discusses the implications of the multi-model consistency; a full ablation study can be performed if the editor deems it essential. revision: partial

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full rationale

The paper trains a Monte Carlo dropout BNN on experimental charge-radii data for Z≥20, A≥40 nuclei. Inputs explicitly include β20 values taken from independent models (FRDM, RMF, WS) plus the modified Casten factor P* chosen to encode shell effects. The reported reproduction of the N=60 radius jump (Z=37-40) and N=126 quenching is presented as the network learning the mapping from these supplied features to measured radii. This is standard supervised learning; the inputs are external quantities not defined from the target radii or fitted inside this work to force the observed trends. No equation reduces the output to the inputs by construction, no parameter is fitted on a subset and then renamed a prediction, and no load-bearing self-citation chain is invoked. The derivation chain (feature construction → network training → RMSD on train/validation sets) remains self-contained against the external experimental benchmark.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

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The central claim rests on the assumption that the selected physical inputs encode the dominant mechanisms governing charge radii and that the neural network can learn a reliable mapping from those inputs to radii; the network weights themselves are free parameters fitted to data.

free parameters (1)
  • Neural network weights and biases
    All trainable parameters of the Bayesian neural network are adjusted during training to minimize deviation from measured charge radii.
axioms (1)
  • domain assumption The chosen inputs (pairing effect, isospin asymmetry, valence correlations, β20 from FRDM/RMF/WS, shape staggering, modified Casten factor) capture the essential physics determining nuclear charge radii.
    These quantities are explicitly introduced into the input structure as the motivated underlying mechanisms.

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