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arxiv: 2605.20354 · v1 · pith:7VWBVMJTnew · submitted 2026-05-19 · 🌀 gr-qc · hep-th

Transfer observables of rotating acoustic black holes from ray tracing: shadow centroid, redshift asymmetry and flux imbalance

Faizuddin Ahmed , Ahmad Al-Badawi , Fernando M. Belchior , Edilberto O. Silva This is my paper

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keywords acoustic black holesrotating draining bathtubray tracingshadow observablesredshift asymmetryflux imbalanceanalog gravity
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Rotating acoustic black holes produce a linearly shifting shadow centroid and redshift asymmetries in ray-traced images.

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The paper develops a detailed ray-tracing method to calculate how acoustic rays behave in a model of a rotating acoustic black hole known as the draining bathtub spacetime. It shows that the dark region or shadow in the observed image has a center that moves sideways in direct proportion to the rotation rate of the fluid, while the overall size of the shadow steadily increases with more rotation. Rotation also causes sound or waves from the left and right sides to appear shifted in frequency differently and creates uneven brightness depending on the direction of travel, although the total amount of light or sound collected does not uniquely indicate the rotation speed. This makes measurements that compare left and right sides, such as the position of the center and differences in color and brightness, more reliable for learning about the rotation than just looking at overall intensity.

Core claim

In the rotating draining-bathtub spacetime, an impact-parameter-resolved transfer framework for null acoustic rays separates the ray geometry from source and detector details and reveals that the geometric capture interval yields a shadow centroid shifting linearly with circulation and a shadow width growing monotonically with circulation, with rotation producing a left-right redshift tilt and a branch-dependent flux imbalance such that the total flux remains a degenerate circulation diagnostic.

What carries the argument

The geometric capture interval for null acoustic rays, which determines the boundaries of the shadow and allows computation of centroid shift and width as direct functions of the circulation parameter.

If this is right

  • The shadow centroid provides a linear diagnostic for the strength of fluid circulation.
  • Shadow width increases steadily as circulation rises, offering a monotonic measure.
  • Left-right redshift asymmetry appears as a tilt induced by rotation.
  • Flux imbalance varies by ray branch, leading to asymmetric brightness.
  • Total integrated flux cannot distinguish different circulation values on its own.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • Laboratory experiments with rotating fluids could test these predicted shifts in acoustic shadows.
  • Differential observables may help separate rotation effects from other fluid properties like viscosity.
  • The transfer framework might be applied to other analog black hole models to compare observable signatures.

Load-bearing premise

The ray-tracing approach assumes that acoustic rays follow the ideal null geodesic paths without dispersion, viscosity, or finite-depth effects significantly altering the underlying spacetime geometry.

What would settle it

An experiment in a rotating fluid system that measures no linear shift in the acoustic shadow centroid as circulation is increased would contradict the predicted observables.

Figures

Figures reproduced from arXiv: 2605.20354 by Ahmad Al-Badawi, Edilberto O. Silva, Faizuddin Ahmed, Fernando M. Belchior.

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Figure 1. Figure 1: FIG. 1. Null acoustic rays in the rotating draining-bathtub geom [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p005_1.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 2. Figure 2: FIG. 2. Acoustic shadow interval as a function of [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p006_2.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 3. Figure 3: FIG. 3. Direct ray-traced extended-disk transfer profiles for di [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p007_3.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 5. Figure 5: FIG. 5. Regularization and source-width e [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p007_5.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 6. Figure 6: FIG. 6. Resolution study for the ray-traced direct-disk observables at [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p008_6.png] view at source ↗
read the original abstract

We construct an impact-parameter-resolved transfer framework for null acoustic rays in the rotating draining-bathtub spacetime. The formalism separates the source-independent ray geometry from the source and detector model by keeping explicit the acoustic redshift, transfer convention, emissivity, emitter velocity field, and source-to-screen mapping. The geometric capture interval provides two clean observables: a shadow centroid that shifts linearly with circulation and a shadow width that grows monotonically with circulation. Observable profiles are obtained from direct ray-source intersections, finite source width or extended-disk integration, detector convolution, and convergence checks, rather than from an approximate semi-analytic ring map. The transfer calculation shows that rotation produces a left-right redshift tilt and a branch-dependent flux imbalance, while the total flux alone remains a degenerate circulation diagnostic. The most useful diagnostics are differential quantities: the shadow centroid, branch-integrated flux asymmetry, peak asymmetry, left-right redshift asymmetry, and global redshift contrast. We also discuss how these observables respond to the transfer convention, intrinsic azimuthal emissivity, the choice of left-right split, finite resolution, and physical limitations such as dispersion, viscosity, and finite-depth corrections.

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Referee Report

1 major / 2 minor

Summary. The manuscript develops an impact-parameter-resolved transfer framework for null acoustic rays in the rotating draining-bathtub spacetime. It separates source-independent ray geometry from source and detector models, keeping explicit the acoustic redshift, transfer convention, emissivity, velocity field, and source-to-screen mapping. From the geometric capture interval the paper extracts two observables: a shadow centroid that shifts linearly with circulation and a shadow width that grows monotonically. Rotation is shown to induce a left-right redshift tilt and branch-dependent flux imbalance, while total flux remains degenerate; differential quantities (centroid, branch-integrated flux asymmetry, peak asymmetry, left-right redshift asymmetry, global redshift contrast) are identified as the most useful diagnostics. The work also examines sensitivities to transfer convention, azimuthal emissivity, left-right split, finite resolution, and physical limitations including dispersion, viscosity, and finite-depth corrections.

Significance. If the results hold, the framework supplies a systematic, source-independent route to circulation diagnostics in acoustic black-hole analogs, with the emphasis on differential rather than total-flux observables mitigating degeneracies. The explicit separation of ray geometry from modeling choices and the use of direct ray-source intersections with convergence checks are methodological strengths that support reproducibility and extensions to realistic sources.

major comments (1)
  1. [Discussion of physical limitations (referenced in abstract)] The assertion that dispersion, viscosity, and finite-depth corrections can be treated as small perturbations that leave the core geometry and capture interval unaltered (invoked when discussing physical limitations after presenting the ideal-model observables) is not accompanied by quantitative bounds, such as an estimate of the critical wavelength or Reynolds number at which the effective impact-parameter range changes by more than a few percent. This renders the claimed cleanliness of the differential observables conditional on an untested regime.
minor comments (2)
  1. [Abstract and results presentation] The abstract and main text would be strengthened by at least one concrete numerical example or reference to a table/figure that quantifies the linear centroid shift and monotonic width growth, including error bars or convergence metrics.
  2. [Methods section] Notation for the left-right split and transfer convention could be clarified with an explicit equation or diagram early in the manuscript to aid readers in reproducing the asymmetry calculations.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

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We thank the referee for the careful reading of the manuscript and for recognizing the methodological strengths of the impact-parameter-resolved transfer framework, including the separation of ray geometry from source and detector models. We address the major comment below.

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  1. Referee: The assertion that dispersion, viscosity, and finite-depth corrections can be treated as small perturbations that leave the core geometry and capture interval unaltered (invoked when discussing physical limitations after presenting the ideal-model observables) is not accompanied by quantitative bounds, such as an estimate of the critical wavelength or Reynolds number at which the effective impact-parameter range changes by more than a few percent. This renders the claimed cleanliness of the differential observables conditional on an untested regime.

    Authors: We agree that the original discussion of physical limitations was qualitative and did not supply explicit quantitative bounds on the regime where dispersion, viscosity, and finite-depth effects remain perturbative. The manuscript derives the ray geometry and capture interval exactly within the ideal effective metric and notes these real-world corrections as limitations that are expected to be small for appropriate experimental parameters, but it does not quantify the thresholds. In the revised manuscript we have added order-of-magnitude estimates based on typical values reported in the acoustic analog literature: dispersive corrections are expected to remain below a few percent when the wavelength exceeds the healing length by a factor of approximately ten or more, while viscous effects on the effective impact-parameter range stay negligible for Reynolds numbers greater than roughly 10^3. These additions clarify the domain of validity for the reported differential observables without altering the ideal-model results or the source-independent character of the framework. revision: yes

Circularity Check

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No significant circularity; observables derived from explicit ray-tracing integration

full rationale

The derivation begins from the rotating draining-bathtub metric and computes null-ray trajectories via direct impact-parameter integration and source intersections. Observables (shadow centroid shift, width growth, redshift tilt, flux asymmetry) are extracted numerically from these intersections, finite-source convolutions, and convergence checks rather than from any fitted parameter, self-referential normalization, or ansatz smuggled through citation. The transfer framework explicitly separates source-independent geometry from detector and emissivity models. No load-bearing step reduces by construction to its own input; the central results remain falsifiable against external ray-tracing benchmarks or laboratory analogs. The unquantified perturbation assumption noted by the skeptic concerns validity range, not definitional circularity.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

0 free parameters · 1 axioms · 0 invented entities

The central claims rest on the standard draining-bathtub analog metric and the validity of geometric ray tracing in the absence of strong dispersion; no new free parameters or invented entities are introduced in the abstract.

axioms (1)
  • domain assumption The background flow is described by the rotating draining-bathtub metric with constant circulation.
    Invoked as the spacetime for all ray-tracing calculations of capture intervals and observables.

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