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Uniform nonlinear Szemer\'{e}di theorem for corners in finite fields
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Pith's one-line read Corners in $\mathbb{F}_p^2$ with rational side lengths have the random set's predicted count up to $O_{P,Q}(p^{-1/40960})$.
desk verdict The rational-function corner asymptotic with degree-uniform power saving is genuinely new, but the proof's load-bearing point count in Theorem 4.2 is not established as written because of a dimension contradiction in Step 1. read the letter →
The pith
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
The reading
What carries the argument
The load-bearing object is the Roth variety for corners: the affine variety in sixteen variables cut out by the ten equations that set to zero the alternating $P$- and $Q$-sums appearing in the corner-counting Fourier expansion. The key identity is Theorem 3.2, which bounds the corner average by a product of $\|f_0\|_2\|f_1\|_4\|f_2\|_4^{1/2}\|f_2\|_{U^2(0\times\mathbb{F}_p)}^{1/4}$ with the factor $(|Y(\mathbb{F}_p)|/p^6)^{1/16}$. Theorem 4.2 supplies the point count, and the remaining mechanism is an algebraic-geometry version of PET induction that replaces Weyl differencing with these point counts, augmented by an extra Cauchy–Schwarz iteration that keeps the auxiliary variety non-degenerate and a directional degree-lowering induction for the Gowers norms.
What would settle it
Fix $P(t)=t$ and $Q(t)=t^2$, and for several primes $p$ compute $|Y(\mathbb{F}_p)|$ for the ten-equation Roth variety by eliminating variables from the defining equations and counting solutions; if along a sequence of primes the count exceeds $C p^6$ with $C\to\infty$, Theorem 4.2 fails and the factor $(|Y(\mathbb{F}_p)|/p^6)^{1/16}$ in the Gowers control theorem would not be bounded.
Extended reading notes
Core claim
The central claim is Theorem 1.1: for every pair of rational functions $P(t),Q(t)\in\mathbb{Q}(t)$ with $P,Q,1$ linearly independent over $\mathbb{Q}$, and every $1$-bounded $f_0,f_1,f_2:\mathbb{F}_p^2\to\mathbb{C}$, the corner average $\mathbb{E}_{x_1,x_2,y}f_0(x_1,x_2)f_1(x_1+P(y),x_2)f_2(x_1,x_2+Q(y))$ equals the factorized average $\mathbb{E}_{x_1,x_2}(f_0(x_1,x_2)\mathbb{E}_a f_1(a,x_2)\mathbb{E}_b f_2(x_1,b))$ plus an error of size $O_{P,Q}(p^{-1/40960})$. The proof first reduces the corner average to a directional Gowers norm of one function multiplied by the point-counting factor $(|Y(\mathbb{F}_p)|/p^6)^{1/16}$, where $Y$ is the Roth variety for corners; it then proves $|Y(\mathbb{F}_p)|\ll p^6$; and it finally runs a directional degree-lowering induction that eliminates the Gowers norm and leaves the factorized main term. This yields the corollary that subsets of density $\delta\gg p^{-1/122880}$ contain $\gg p^3\delta^3$ such corners.
Load-bearing premise
The whole argument stands on the claim that the solution set of the ten corner equations has at most on the order of $p^6$ points over $\mathbb{F}_p$; Step 1 of the proof of that claim calls the generic part six-dimensional and then three-dimensional, so this dimension comparison is the fragile premise.
Editorial extensions
If this is right
- For any admissible $P,Q$, every subset of $\mathbb{F}_p^2$ of density $\delta\gg p^{-1/122880}$ contains $\gg p^3\delta^3$ corners generated by $P,Q$.
- The implied constant in the main theorem depends only on the degrees of $P$ and $Q$, so the $p^{-1/40960}$ saving remains uniform as the degrees grow.
- The averages and the asymptotic remain meaningful when $P$ or $Q$ has poles, because the expectation excludes the pole values of $y$.
- As part of the induction, the paper establishes an $O(p^{-1/2})$ asymptotic for two-term rational progressions in each coordinate direction.
Reading between the lines
- A direct computation of the Roth-variety dimension for $P(t)=t$ and $Q(t)=t^2$ would settle whether Step 1's dimension comparison is a typo or a gap; if the generic part actually has dimension 3, the point count would be stronger but the written proof would need correction.
- The same Cauchy–Schwarz-plus-point-count machinery appears transferable to corners generated by three or more rational side functions, with a smaller power saving from the longer induction; the paper does not claim this.
- Because the saving is uniform in degree, the density threshold may extend to sequences of rational functions whose degrees grow with $p$, provided the linear-independence condition continues to hold; this is an extrapolation.
- The exponent $1/40960$ is explicitly not optimized, so a tighter bookkeeping of the degree-lowering constants could improve it without changing the structure of the proof.
Editorial analysis
A structured set of objections, weighed in public.
Referee Report
Summary. The paper proves, for rational functions P(t), Q(t) in Q(t) with P, Q, and 1 linearly independent over Q, an asymptotic formula for the corner-counting average over F_p^2, with error O_{P,Q}(p^{-1/40960}) for all 1-bounded functions. The proof has three main parts: an algebraic-geometry PET induction (Section 3) that reduces the corner average to a directional Gowers norm, subject to a point-counting estimate for a 16-variable 'Roth variety'; a dimension-theoretic proof of that point-counting estimate (Section 4); and a degree-lowering induction in the style of Peluse and Kuca (Section 5). The claimed result also yields a density-increment-free lower bound for subsets avoiding such corners.
Significance. If the main theorem is correct, this is a significant advance: it is the first quantitative nonlinear Szemerédi theorem for corners with rational-function side lengths in finite fields, and the power-saving exponent is uniform in the degrees of P and Q. The paper combines Fourier analysis, algebraic geometry, and degree-lowering in a genuinely novel way, and the explicit Roth variety for corners with the Kavrut--Wu amplification is a useful construction. The proof is not machine-checked, but the algebraic manipulations in Propositions 3.3, 3.5, and 3.6 are largely explicit. The main caveat is that the paper depends on the unpublished preprint [HL24] for the one-dimensional base case and for the complex-analytic dimension method, and the dimension arguments in Section 4 contain a serious internal inconsistency.
major comments (3)
- [§4, Theorem 4.2, Step 1] Step 1 first asserts that the associated complex analytic space of Ygen(C) is a 6-dimensional complex manifold, then invokes Noether normalization and [GR84] to 'deduce that the dimension of Ygen(C) as a variety is 3', and later uses the value 6 in the base-change and Lang--Weil argument. These statements are mutually incompatible: a finite surjective morphism preserves dimension, so if Ygen(C) is a 6-dimensional complex manifold, its algebraic dimension is 6, not 3. Since Steps 4, 5, 7, and 8 all justify their point-counting bounds by 'similar arguments to Step 1', the proof of the load-bearing estimate |Y(F_p)| << p^6 — which controls the factor (|Y|/p^6)^{1/16} in Theorems 3.2 and 3.7 — is not established as written. This is a fundamental gap in the point-counting argument, not a typo confined to one line, and it must be repaired before the main theorem can be accepted.
- [§5, Proof of Theorem 5.4.(2)] The sentence 'the desired estimate in Theorem 5.4.(2) already holds when p^{-1/2} \gg δ^{64}' has the inequality in the wrong direction as stated. From δ^{64} \ll p^{-1/2} one obtains δ \ll p^{-1/128}, which is much larger than the claimed p^{-1/640} for large p, so it does not imply the desired estimate. The intended condition should be p^{-1/2} \ll δ^{64}, i.e. the error term is negligible compared with the main-term lower bound. The same directional issue propagates to the sketch of Theorem 5.4.(3), where the final exponent is derived. The induction needs to be rewritten with the correct comparison and with all exponents tracked explicitly.
- [§4, Theorem 4.2, Step 3] The proof that D(y1,y4,y6) is a nonzero rational function is presented as an informal pole/zero cancellation argument. As written, 'poles and zeroes exactly the same' does not by itself imply P'/Q' is constant unless multiplicities are part of the statement, and the claims that poles of S(y1) cannot be cancelled need a precise Laurent-expansion or Wronskian argument. This step is load-bearing because Step 4's estimate |Z'_sp(F_p)| << p^5 relies on D being a nonzero rational function, so the argument should be formalized.
minor comments (4)
- [§4, Theorem 4.2, Step 1] The displayed identity 'dim Sch Ygen ×Z Fp = dim Sch Ygen ×Z Fp' is tautological; presumably one side should refer to the algebraic closure of F_p or to a geometric fiber over F_p rather than the scheme over F_p itself.
- [§2.4 and §4] The notation for dimensions is inconsistent: the paper uses 'dimVar', 'dim Sch', and 'dimension as a variety' without clearly defining all three for possibly non-irreducible varieties, and Step 1 switches between them without explanation.
- [§1.1] There is a typo in 'algebraic geomerty' in the introduction; it should read 'algebraic geometry'.
- [§2.1] The pole-exclusion convention in the expectation notation is defined in Section 2, but Theorem 1.1 states the average without explicitly reminding the reader that y is restricted away from the poles of P and Q; adding a short parenthetical in the theorem statement would improve clarity.
Circularity Check
No circular reduction: the corner asymptotic is derived compositionally; the main risk is a soundness gap in Theorem 4.2 Step 1 (a 6-vs-3 dimension contradiction), not circularity.
full rationale
No circular step is present. The corner asymptotic in Theorem 1.1 is not defined in terms of itself, no parameter is fitted and later renamed as a prediction, and the Gowers-norm control in Theorem 3.2 is obtained by explicit Cauchy-Schwarz and orthogonality manipulations that terminate in the exact identity (22) equaling p^{-6}|Y(F_p)|. The degree-lowering induction in Section 5 is a genuine induction whose base case (Proposition 5.3) and one-dimensional point-counting method (Step 1 of Theorem 4.2) are imported from [HL24], a preprint coauthored by the present author. This is a load-bearing self-citation, but it is not circular: [HL24] concerns one-dimensional rational-function progressions, not the two-dimensional corner average, so it is independent support rather than an input equivalent to the target result. The genuine problem is correctness, not circularity. Step 1 of Theorem 4.2 first states that 'The associated complex analytic space of Ygen(C) is a 6-dimensional complex manifold', then says 'we deduce that the dimension of Ygen(C) as a variety is 3', and later asserts 'dim Var Ygen(C) = 6'. The point count |Y(F_p)| << p^6 is load-bearing for the factor (|Y|/p^6)^{1/16} in Theorem 3.2, and Steps 4, 5, 7, and 8 all rely on 'similar arguments to Step 1', so this internal contradiction must be resolved before the proof of Theorem 4.2 is valid. That deficiency is a soundness gap, not a circularity, and therefore does not raise the circularity score.
Assumptions & free parameters
assumptions (5)
- domain assumption P(t), Q(t), and the constant function 1 are linearly independent over Q
- standard math Lang-Weil bound for varieties over finite fields
- standard math Bombieri's exponential sum bound for rational phases over finite fields
- standard math Dimension facts from Hartshorne, Grauert-Remmert, and the Stacks Project
- domain assumption [HL24, Proposition 5.1], a one-dimensional rational-progression asymptotic
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Pith. "Pith review of Uniform nonlinear Szemer\'{e}di theorem for corners in finite fields." pith.science (2026). https://pith.science/paper/DYJMALUV
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abstract
Let $P(t),Q(t)\in \mathbb{Q}(t)$ be rational functions such that $P(t),Q(t)$ and the constant function $1$ are linearly independent over $\mathbb{Q}$, we prove an asymptotic formula for the number of the corner configurations $(x_1,x_2),(x_1+P(y),x_2),(x_1,x_2+Q(y))$ in the subsets of $\mathbb{F}_p^2$.
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