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Scaling Laws for Forgetting during Finetuning with Pretraining Data Injection
T0 review · 2 major / 5 minor · reviewed 2026-08-08 · deepseek-v4-flash
Pith's one-line read A scaling law predicts how much finetuning makes language models forget, and 1% pretraining data in the mix prevents most of the damage.
desk verdict Solid scaling-law study with a genuinely new forgetting law and a real extrapolation check, but the '1% injection prevents forgetting' headline only holds with an effectively infinite pretraining reservoir, which the paper's own Section 4.4 demonstrates. read the letter →
The pith
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
The reading
What carries the argument
The carrying object is the modified multiplicative scaling law for the pretraining loss (Equation 7 of the paper), $L_{\mathrm{pt}} = L^0_{\mathrm{pt}} + A\, D_{\mathrm{ft}}^{\beta} / ((1+Bp)N)^{\alpha}$, with the term $(1+Bp)N$ as the mechanism that prices in pretraining data injection: a fraction $p$ of parameters is "owned" by the pretraining task and is $B$ times more efficient at preserving pretraining loss than parameters devoted to finetuning. The law is evaluated at the checkpoint that minimizes finetuning validation loss, i.e. the bottom of the overfitting U-curve, and $L^0_{\mathrm{pt}}$ is measured on the rewarmed model — the pretrained model at the constant learning rate used for finetuning — because the rewarming itself increases the pretraining loss. Coefficients are fitted per domain by Huber loss in log space, following the standard scaling-law fitting procedure.
What would settle it
Pretrain a 334M-parameter model on both 3.3B and 33B tokens, finetune both on the same target domain with $p=1\%$, and check whether the same $\alpha$ in Equation 7 predicts both pretraining losses; a systematic mismatch would falsify the claim that $\alpha$ captures scale alone.
Extended reading notes
Core claim
The central discovery is that forgetting during finetuning is not erratic but obeys the multiplicative law $L_{\mathrm{pt}} = L^0_{\mathrm{pt}} + A\, D_{\mathrm{ft}}^{\beta} / ((1+Bp)N)^{\alpha}$, where $L^0_{\mathrm{pt}}$ is the pretraining loss of the pretrained model before finetuning, $D_{\mathrm{ft}}$ is the number of finetuning tokens, $N$ is model size, $p$ is the fraction of pretraining data injected, and $A$, $B$, $\alpha$, $\beta$ are domain-dependent positive constants. The factor $(1+Bp)N$ encodes the idea that a fraction $p$ of the model's parameters is allocated to the pretraining task, and these parameters are $B$ times more efficient at retaining pretraining performance than those allocated to finetuning; $B\gg 1$ because pretrained features are already aligned with the pretraining loss. The paper reports a bootstrapped mean relative error of 0.40% across twelve domains of The Pile, and shows the law still holds when pretraining checkpoints are taken on the $D=10N$ isocurve and when instruction finetuning is used. For the finetuning loss itself, the paper confirms the multiplicative law $L_{\mathrm{ft}} = A/(N^{\alpha} D_{\mathrm{ft}}^{\beta}) + E$ with 0.89% error and essentially no dependence on $p$, and shows that injecting 1% pretraining data does not hurt finetuning performance while strongly reducing forgetting.
Load-bearing premise
The model-size exponent in the forgetting law is estimated from models that were always pretrained on 100 tokens per parameter, so the law does not separate model scale from pretraining data volume.
Editorial extensions
If this is right
- Forgetting before a finetuning run can be predicted from three inputs — model size, target token count, and injection fraction — with no need to train the model first, once the domain coefficients are fitted on small runs.
- The injection fraction $p$ can be chosen from the law: $p=1\%$ already shields pretraining loss, and larger $p$ improves finetuning validation loss only mildly before a U-curve makes it worse.
- Small-scale experiments (models up to 334M parameters, datasets up to 3,000K tokens) predict the behavior of models up to 1.3B parameters and 30,000K tokens within about 2% on finetuning loss and 1% on forgetting.
- Forgetting is primarily a capacity phenomenon: small models lose up to 95% of pretraining progress while large models lose about 20%, so bigger models are more robust to sequential finetuning at higher compute cost.
- The finetuning loss obeys a multiplicative law with no measurable dependence on $p$, meaning pretraining data injection is a nearly free regularizer for the target domain.
Reading between the lines
- I infer that the fitted coefficient $B$ can serve as a cheap, quantitative measure of a target domain's distance from the pretraining distribution: domains far from the pretraining mix (Dm mathematics, $B \approx 10^4$) need injection most, while similar domains (Wikipedia) need it least — a relationship the paper observes but does not formalize.
- Because the pretraining-token budget is tied to model size ($D=100N$), the law's $\alpha$ conflates scale with pretraining data volume; I expect the exponents would need re-fitting for models trained at compute-optimal or other token budgets.
- The paper measures forgetting through pretraining loss; a natural testable extension is to check whether the same law predicts accuracy drops on held-out benchmarks, grounding the loss-based proxy in task-level forgetting.
- The observed rule that roughly 0.3 unique pretraining tokens per finetuning token suffices to avoid forgetting suggests a diversity threshold, which could be probed directly by ablating the size of the injected pretraining pool.
Editorial analysis
A structured set of objections, weighed in public.
Referee Report
Summary. The paper studies catastrophic forgetting during full-parameter finetuning of GPT-style language models and proposes two per-domain scaling laws: one for the finetuning validation loss (Eq. 6, following Zhang et al.) and one for the pretraining loss after finetuning as a measure of forgetting (Eq. 7). The forgetting law predicts L_pt from the pretrained baseline L0_pt, model size N, finetuning tokens D_ft, and injection fraction p, with a multiplicative factor (1+Bp)N. The authors fit these laws on 125 configurations per domain (5 model sizes × 5 finetuning dataset sizes × 5 injection fractions) across 12 domains of The Pile, report mean relative errors of 0.89% (finetuning) and 0.40% (forgetting), and validate extrapolation to larger models and larger finetuning datasets. The headline practical claim is that injecting p=1% pretraining data into the finetuning mixture mitigates forgetting with negligible cost to finetuning loss.
Significance. The work is a careful, large-scale empirical study in a practically important setting. Its strengths include the out-of-sample extrapolation checks in Table 4, the use of multiple domains, the comparison to alternative law forms, and the explicit measurement of the rewarming offset L0_pt. If the forgetting law survives the caveats below, it would give practitioners a cheap way to predict forgetting from small-scale runs. However, the law's scope is narrower than the abstract suggests: it is fitted only on the D=100N pretraining isocurve and only for streaming (infinite-reservoir) pretraining data injection.
major comments (2)
- [Section 4.4, Eq. (7)] The forgetting law in Eq. (7) does not include the number of unique pretraining tokens available for injection. The authors' own experiment in §4.4 (Figure 6) shows that at fixed p=1%, the post-finetuning pretraining loss depends strongly on the reservoir size: with only 32KT-320KT unique pretraining tokens, repeated injection of the same tokens overfits the pretraining set and forgetting is not prevented. Since Eq. (7) contains no reservoir term, it is only valid in the infinite-reservoir streaming regime, while the abstract states that 'injecting as little as 1% of pretraining data... prevents the model from forgetting the pretraining set' without this caveat. This is a load-bearing limitation of the central claim; the law cannot predict the finite-reservoir failure mode shown in the paper itself. The authors should either extend the law (e.g., with a repetition or reservoir-size factor) or explicitly limit the scope of the claim and the law to streaming injection, and revise the abstract accordingly.
- [Section 4.5, Eq. (7) and Table 2] All pretrained checkpoints lie on the isocurve D=100N (Section 3.1, Table 1), so the fitted exponent α in Eq. (7) conflates model size N with the number of pretraining tokens D_pretrain. The statement in the Analysis that 'forgetting is primarily attributed to network capacity' is therefore not identified: larger models also received more pretraining data, and the D=10N check in Figure 11 does not separate the two covariates because it only changes the isocurve ratio, not N and D_pretrain independently. The authors should rephrase the capacity interpretation, or add experiments that vary N and D_pretrain separately, or at least prominently flag the confound as a limitation.
minor comments (5)
- [Section 3.1 / Figure 15] The injection fractions are listed as {0%, 0.1%, 0.5%, 1%, 5%}, but Figure 15 shows 0.2% in the legend; please reconcile this discrepancy.
- [Section 3.1 / Table 1] The text states pretraining uses 100 tokens per parameter, but the D/N ratios in Table 1 range from about 79 to 124; please clarify whether the isocurve is approximate.
- [Section 4.5 / Figure 14] The sentence 'they lose up to 95% (!) of the pretraining progress' appears to conflict with Figure 14's caption ('up to 80%'); please clarify which number is correct or specify the domain and condition.
- [Figure 6 caption] The sentence 'Remarkably, only 0.3 unique pretraining tokens per unique finetuning token are sufficient to avoid forgetting' is difficult to reconcile with the main text's finding that limited unique tokens increase pretraining loss; please rephrase to state the threshold condition and its dependence on D_ft.
- [Abstract and Conclusion] The phrase 'prevents the model from forgetting' is too absolute given the finite-reservoir results in §4.4; I suggest using 'mitigates' or adding a qualified statement.
Circularity Check
No significant circularity: the forgetting law is an empirical fit validated by held-out extrapolation, and the residual concerns are scope limitations rather than reductions to inputs.
full rationale
This paper does not claim a from-first-principles derivation; it proposes Eq. (7) as an empirical scaling law and fits A, B, alpha, and beta to 125 measured points per domain (Sec. 4.5, Appendix C). The only measured offset, L0_pt, is the pretraining loss of the rewarmed checkpoint before finetuning, which is a legitimate input rather than a fitted version of the target, and the paper explicitly tests the law without L0_pt and reports a worse MRE (1.05% vs. 0.40%), showing the offset does not force the fit. The reported 0.40% MRE is not a held-out test, but Table 4 provides genuine extrapolation: fitting only up to Medium/3,000K tokens predicts Large/XL at 9,000K/30,000K with 0.83% forgetting MRE, and Appendix A confirms the law on a separate D = 10N pretraining isocurve. These checks show the 'predictions' are not statistical identities with the fitted data. No uniqueness theorem or ansatz is imported via self-citation; the prior-work citations (e.g., Zhang et al. 2024) supply the baseline multiplicative finetuning law, while the new forgetting-law terms are fitted rather than forced by those citations. The skeptical concern that Eq. (7) omits the size of the unique pretraining reservoir is a scope and correctness limitation, not circularity: the paper itself states in Sec. 4.4 that its main runs stream pretraining data 'without repetition,' and Figure 6 shows the 1% rule degrades when the reservoir is small, qualifying the abstract's unconditional 1% claim. Similarly, the D = 100N isocurve limitation in Sec. 4.5 constrains extrapolation to other pretraining token budgets but does not make the fit circular.
Assumptions & free parameters
free parameters (10)
- Finetuning law coefficient A (per domain) =
e.g., Arxiv 95.18
- Finetuning law exponent alpha (per domain) =
Arxiv 0.17
- Finetuning law exponent beta (per domain) =
Arxiv 0.10
- Finetuning irreducible loss E (per domain) =
e.g., Enron 0.00
- Forgetting law coefficient A (per domain) =
e.g., Arxiv 526
- Forgetting law coefficient B (per domain) =
e.g., Arxiv 392
- Forgetting law exponent alpha (per domain) =
Arxiv 0.74
- Forgetting law exponent beta (per domain) =
Arxiv 0.34
- Finetuning learning rate multiplier =
1/30 of peak pretraining LR
- Pretraining token isocurve ratio =
D_pretrain = 100N
assumptions (5)
- domain assumption Next-token prediction loss on the pretraining set is a valid proxy for general knowledge and forgetting.
- ad hoc to paper The multiplicative functional form of the forgetting law holds across domains and scales.
- domain assumption Model checkpoints at the bottom of the finetuning U-curve are the right points to compare.
- domain assumption Results on GPT-2 style models pretrained on RedPajamaV2 generalize to other architectures and pretraining corpora.
- ad hoc to paper Variation of p in {0, 0.1, 0.5, 1, 5}% is fine enough to establish the 1% rule.
Cite this review
Pith. "Pith review of Scaling Laws for Forgetting during Finetuning with Pretraining Data Injection." pith.science (2026). https://pith.science/paper/LJPVDZY5
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A widespread strategy to obtain a language model that performs well on a target domain is to finetune a pretrained model to perform unsupervised next-token prediction on data from that target domain. Finetuning presents two challenges: (i) if the amount of target data is limited, as in most practical applications, the model will quickly overfit, and (ii) the model will drift away from the original model, forgetting the pretraining data and the generic knowledge that comes with it. We aim to derive scaling laws that quantify these two phenomena for various target domains, amounts of available target data, and model scales. We measure the efficiency of injecting pretraining data into the finetuning data mixture to avoid forgetting and mitigate overfitting. A key practical takeaway from our study is that injecting as little as 1% of pretraining data in the finetuning data mixture prevents the model from forgetting the pretraining set.
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" write newline "" before.all 'output.state := FUNCTION n.dashify 't := "" t empty not t #1 #1 substring "-" = t #1 #2 substring "--" = not "--" * t #2 global.max substring 't := t #1 #1 substring "-" = "-" * t #2 global.max substring 't := while if t #1 #1 substring * t #2 gl...
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