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Dimension lower bounds in random geometry via Lipschitz functions

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Pith's one-line read The set of 3-star points has Hausdorff dimension at least two in the LQG metric.

desk verdict The paper gives new lower bounds of 2 on Hausdorff dimension for 3-star points and related sets in LQG and other planar length metrics by rewriting them as non-constancy sets of Lipschitz functions. read the letter →

arxiv 2606.10496 v1 pith:NZNYH4EC submitted 2026-06-09 math.PR math-phmath.MP

Manan Bhatia , Ewain Gwynne , Brin Harper This is my paper · ORCID
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keywords HausdorffdimensionLiouvillequantumgravityLQGmetricgeodesicsstarpointsLipschitzfunctionsnetsplanarlengthmetrics
topics Quantum Gravity
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The reading

The paper proves lower bounds on the Hausdorff dimensions of sets like 3-star points in the Liouville quantum gravity metric and other planar length metrics. It shows that 3-star points, the starting points of three disjoint geodesics, have dimension at least two, which is conjectured to be optimal. The proofs rely on expressing these sets as non-constancy sets of Lipschitz functions and are primarily topological. Additional bounds include dimension one for boundary 2-star points and metric nets, and dimension two for intersections of two metric nets. In LQG, sharper bounds are obtained for 2-star points and the metric net with respect to both Euclidean and LQG metrics.

What carries the argument

Non-constancy sets of Lipschitz functions, which preserve Hausdorff dimension lower bounds for the sets of interest under planar length metrics.

What would settle it

An explicit construction or numerical realization of the LQG metric in which the 3-star points have Hausdorff dimension strictly less than two would disprove the lower bound.

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Core claim

We prove that the set of 3-star points has Hausdorff dimension at least two with respect to the LQG metric, which is conjectured to be optimal. Our proof works for a general class of planar length metrics which also includes, e.g., Kendall's Poisson roads metric. We additionally prove a dimension lower bound of one for the set of 2-star points intersected with the boundary and for the metric net intersected with the boundary, as well as a dimension lower bound of two for the intersection of two metric nets. In the particular setting of LQG, we obtain sharper lower bounds for the Hausdorff dimensions of the set of 2-star points and the LQG metric net, with respect to both the Euclidean metric

Load-bearing premise

The sets of interest can be expressed as non-constancy sets of Lipschitz functions in a way that preserves the Hausdorff dimension lower bounds under the given planar length metrics.

Editorial extensions

If this is right

  • The conjectured optimal dimension of two for 3-star points holds as a lower bound in the LQG metric.
  • The dimension results apply to a general class of planar length metrics including Kendall's Poisson roads metric.
  • The sets of 2-star points on the boundary and the metric net on the boundary each have Hausdorff dimension at least one.
  • The intersection of two metric nets has Hausdorff dimension at least two.
  • Sharper lower bounds hold in LQG for the 2-star points and the metric net under both the Euclidean and LQG metrics.

Reading between the lines

Editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • The lower bounds imply that 3-star points are large enough in the metric to affect the branching structure of geodesics throughout the plane.
  • The Lipschitz-function representation may allow similar dimension results for other geodesic-defined sets in the same class of metrics.
  • These bounds could inform models of percolation or connectivity that depend on the size of star-point sets.
  • The topological approach suggests the bounds remain stable under small changes to the underlying length metric.
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Summary. The manuscript proves lower bounds on Hausdorff dimensions (w.r.t. the LQG metric and Euclidean metric) for several sets in Liouville quantum gravity and more generally in planar length metrics: the set of 3-star points has dimension at least 2 (conjectured optimal), the set of 2-star points intersected with the boundary and the metric net intersected with the boundary each have dimension at least 1, and the intersection of two metric nets has dimension at least 2. Sharper bounds are obtained in the LQG case. The proofs are primarily topological and proceed by expressing the sets of interest as non-constancy sets of Lipschitz functions.

Significance. If the central claims hold, the results supply concrete dimension lower bounds for geometrically natural sets in random planar geometry, with the 3-star bound conjectured to be sharp and the framework applying beyond LQG to metrics such as Kendall's Poisson roads. The topological approach via Lipschitz functions is a methodological strength that avoids heavy analytic estimates.

major comments (2)
  1. [Abstract and introduction] Abstract and introduction (key idea paragraph): the reduction of the 3-star set (and analogs) to non-constancy sets of Lipschitz functions is asserted to deliver the Hausdorff dimension lower bound of 2 in the LQG metric. However, the non-constancy set of a Lipschitz function on a length space can have Hausdorff dimension 0 (e.g., a countable dense set), so an explicit argument is required showing how the planar length metric and the Lipschitz property force dimension at least 2; this step is load-bearing for all stated dimension claims.
  2. [Main proof section on 3-star points] Main proof (the section containing the topological argument for 3-star points): the manuscript must supply a covering or modulus-of-continuity estimate that transfers the non-constancy property into a positive lower bound on 2-dimensional Hausdorff measure in the LQG metric; without it the topological reduction alone does not establish the claimed dimension.
minor comments (1)
  1. The abstract states that sharper bounds are obtained for the LQG metric net and 2-star points with respect to both metrics; a brief comparison table or explicit numerical statements of the Euclidean versus LQG bounds would improve readability.

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We thank the referee for the careful reading and insightful comments. We agree that the dimension lower bound step requires more explicit justification and will revise accordingly.

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  1. Referee: [Abstract and introduction] Abstract and introduction (key idea paragraph): the reduction of the 3-star set (and analogs) to non-constancy sets of Lipschitz functions is asserted to deliver the Hausdorff dimension lower bound of 2 in the LQG metric. However, the non-constancy set of a Lipschitz function on a length space can have Hausdorff dimension 0 (e.g., a countable dense set), so an explicit argument is required showing how the planar length metric and the Lipschitz property force dimension at least 2; this step is load-bearing for all stated dimension claims.

    Authors: We agree that an explicit argument bridging non-constancy of the Lipschitz function to the dimension lower bound is required, as the general fact alone does not suffice. In the revised manuscript we will expand the key idea paragraph in the abstract and introduction to include a modulus-of-continuity argument specific to planar length metrics: around points of non-constancy the Lipschitz function varies by a definite amount on a set of positive 2-dimensional measure because the underlying space is a length metric on the plane. This will be made load-bearing for all claims. revision: yes

  2. Referee: [Main proof section on 3-star points] Main proof (the section containing the topological argument for 3-star points): the manuscript must supply a covering or modulus-of-continuity estimate that transfers the non-constancy property into a positive lower bound on 2-dimensional Hausdorff measure in the LQG metric; without it the topological reduction alone does not establish the claimed dimension.

    Authors: We agree that the main proof section must supply an explicit covering or modulus-of-continuity estimate. In the revision we will add, immediately after the topological reduction, a covering argument that uses the Lipschitz constant together with the length-space property to produce a Vitali-type cover of the non-constancy set by balls on which the function varies by a fixed positive amount; the resulting lower bound on 2-dimensional Hausdorff measure in the LQG metric follows directly. This completes the dimension claim while preserving the primarily topological character of the argument. revision: yes

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No circularity; topological reduction to non-constancy sets is independent of the target dimension bounds.

full rationale

The paper derives Hausdorff dimension lower bounds by expressing 3-star points and related sets as non-constancy loci of Lipschitz functions on planar length metrics, then invoking topological arguments to obtain the dimension estimates. No step reduces the claimed lower bound to a fitted parameter, a self-referential definition, or a load-bearing self-citation whose content is itself unverified. The argument is presented as self-contained within standard metric topology and does not invoke prior author results to force uniqueness or import an ansatz. This is the normal case of an independent derivation.

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We prove lower bounds for the Hausdorff dimensions of various natural sets associated with the Liouville quantum gravity (LQG) metric. We prove that the set of 3-star points (i.e., starting points of three disjoint geodesics) has Hausdorff dimension at least two with respect to the LQG metric, which is conjectured to be optimal. Our proof works for a general class of planar length metrics which also includes, e.g., Kendall's Poisson roads metric. We additionally prove a dimension lower bound of one for the set of 2-star points intersected with the boundary and for the metric net intersected with the boundary, as well as a dimension lower bound of two for the intersection of two metric nets. In the particular setting of LQG, we obtain sharper lower bounds for the Hausdorff dimensions of the set of 2-star points and the LQG metric net, with respect to both the Euclidean metric and the LQG metric. Our proofs are primarily topological. The key idea is to express the sets of interest in terms of non-constancy sets of Lipschitz functions.

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Figure 1. (We thank Jason Miller for providing us with the code used to generate this figure.) [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p003_1.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 2. Graphs of the quantities ∆KPZ(γ, 2), ∆∂ KPZ(γ, 1), ∆Euc(γ, 1), and ∆LQG(γ, 1) which appear in Theorem 1.2 and Theorem 1.3, using the approximation dγ ≈ 2 + γ 2/2 + γ/√ 6 (this approximation is consistent with the best known bounds for dγ; see [GP19]). Theorem 1.3. Fix γ ∈ (0, 2). Let h be a Neumann (free-boundary) GFF on the upper half plane H, and let Dh be the associated γ-LQG metric on H. Then the following hold … view at source ↗
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Figure 3. Illustration of the proof of Theorem 1.8. Left: The case where b is cut off from ∞ before Bt(a) absorbs z. Right: The case where z is absorbed by Bt(a) before b is cut off from ∞, corresponding to z ∈ ∂Bt(a) and z ̸= q. (Note that in both cases, we have chosen to illustrate b /∈ ∂Bt(a) and thus s > 0.) We will now prove Theorem 1.8, which, roughly speaking, says that for a sufficiently “nice” planar metric D, the in… view at source ↗
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Figure 4. Figure 4: The set ∂F r,≥ u,v may be be a proper subset of F r,= u,v , so it is indeed necessary to consider points z ∈ F r,= u,v \ ∂F r,≥ u,v in the proof of Lemma 3.6. Left: a scenario where F r,= u,v has trivial interior, so that the equality ∂F r,≥ u,v = F r,= u,v does hold. …
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Figure 5. Figure 5: Left: Illustration of the proof of Lemma 3.8. The blue and green curves are D￾geodesics from c and a to b. The set Γc,a(T) where D(Γc,a(t), a) + D(Γc,a(t), b) > D(a, b) and D(Γc,a(t), b) + D(Γc,a(t), c) > D(Γc,a(t), c) consists of points on Γc,a which are not hit by an…
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Figure 6. Figure 6: Illustration of the proof of Lemma 3.13. The D-geodesic Γc,a from c to a, drawn in blue, has D-length σ + τ ; it is the concatenation of Γc,d|[0,τ] (purple, length τ ) followed by the time reversal of Γa,b|[0,σ] (orange, length σ). Similarly, the D-geodesic Γc,b from c…
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Figure 7. Figure 7: Left: The D-geodesics from a to b, b to c, and c to a for three points a, b, c ∈ A. Right: The tree Tn formed by the D-geodesics between points in a finite subset of A, as in the proof of Proposition 3.10. (ii) For each z, w ∈ Tn, the unique simple path in Tn from z to…
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Figure 8. Figure 8: Left: The point z ∈ F r,= a,b ∩ F s,= a,c is a 3-star point for D. The D-geodesic (red) from z to a does not trace F r,= a,b ∪ F s,= a,c for a nontrivial interval, and the analogous statements hold for the geodesics from z to b and to c. Right: Here the geodesic from z…
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Figure 9. Figure 9: Illustration of the setup for Theorem 1.12, in the case where we lower-bound the Euclidean dimension of Sf,V . A and B are Euclidean balls of equal radius chosen so that f(x) < a on A and f(x) > b on B, for random constants a and b. {Lθ} is the family of line segments …
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Figure 10. Figure 10: Illustration of the proof setup for Proposition [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p035_10.png]

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