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Is It Navajo? Accurate Language Detection in Endangered Athabaskan Languages

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Pith's one-line read A 100-tree random forest, trained on Navajo and the twenty languages Google's LangID incorrectly suggests for it, distinguishes Navajo from those languages with near-perfect accuracy (97–100%) and appears to recognize related Athabaskan…

desk verdict The Navajo-vs-20-languages classifier result is solid and reproducible, but the Athabaskan generalization claim is unsupported: the Apache table actually shows model collapse, not robustness. read the letter →

arxiv 2501.15773 v2 pith:VQ3NNFSF submitted 2025-01-27 cs.CL

Ivory Yang , Weicheng Ma , Chunhui Zhang , Soroush Vosoughi This is my paper · ORCID
classification cs.CL
keywords languageidentificationendangeredlanguagesNavajoAthabaskanrandomforestlow-resourceNLPGoogleLangIDlinguisticdiversity
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The reading

This paper asks whether a simple machine-learning model can identify Navajo text when the only competing languages are the twenty languages that Google's language identification tool mistakenly suggests for Navajo. The authors train a 100-tree random forest on Navajo sentences from the Leipzig corpus plus samples from those twenty languages, and report near-perfect accuracy (97–100%, with Navajo precision 1.00, recall 0.99). The point is that a small, transparent, easily replicated model can cover an endangered language that commercial tools ignore, and that the same model may recognize closely related Athabaskan languages such as Western Apache and Mescalero Apache. The paper positions this as a step toward decentralized NLP tools that serve under-resourced languages.

What carries the argument

The load-bearing object is the random forest classifier, a set of 100 decision trees whose individual votes are aggregated, applied to sentence-level text features encoded as 5,000-dimensional vectors. It does the work of separating Navajo from the twenty confusable languages using a modest, interpretable model, and it is the same model, without retraining, that is applied to the Apache generalization test. The candidate set itself matters: the twenty languages are not chosen for linguistic similarity but because Google's LangID returns them for Navajo input, so the classifier learns to reject exactly the confusions that a real user would encounter.

What would settle it

Take the released classifier and apply it to Navajo text that is not from the Leipzig corpus—for example, social media posts, chat messages, or transcribed interviews—and measure accuracy against human judgments; if accuracy falls well below the reported 97–100%, the generalization claim is false. Similarly, collecting a balanced sample of several hundred sentences from each of the four Apache languages and measuring per-language classification rates would settle whether the family-level robustness claim holds beyond the 107-sentence curated sample.

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Core claim

The central claim is that language identification for an unsupported endangered language need not wait for large-scale multilingual models: a 100-tree random forest trained on 153,832 sentence samples, vectorized into 5,000 features, distinguishes Navajo from the twenty languages Google's LangID erroneously returns, achieving an overall accuracy of 97% and Navajo F1 of 0.99 on a held-out test set. The authors further claim that this Navajo-trained classifier recognizes related Athabaskan languages, classifying 96% of Western Apache sentences, 100% of Mescalero Apache, 92% of Jicarilla Apache, and 62% of Lipan Apache as Navajo, with the pattern tracking the Western/Eastern Apachean subgrouping. The broader argument is that targeted, family-level tools can provide practical support for endangered languages that centralized platforms omit.

Load-bearing premise

The central assumption is that a random split of the Leipzig Navajo corpus and the twenty-language samples yields a test set that represents how Navajo text appears in the wild, so the near-perfect accuracy will carry over to real-world usage.

Editorial extensions

If this is right

  • A straightforward random forest, trained on freely available Leipzig corpora, can serve as a practical Navajo language identifier that any community or researcher can run locally, without relying on commercial APIs.
  • Because the same model flags related Athabaskan languages as Navajo, a single trained classifier could help triage text from several endangered languages until dedicated per-language models are built.
  • The high precision and recall on the closed set of twenty confusable languages shows that commercial LangID failures can be corrected with a small, targeted supplement rather than a massive retraining effort.
  • The public release of code and data makes the result directly checkable and reusable by preservation groups working on Navajo and other Athabaskan languages.

Reading between the lines

Editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • The Apache generalization test is only 107 sentences total, so the family-level robustness claim is suggestive rather than established; a larger, balanced sample of each Apache language would be needed to know whether the Western/Eastern subgrouping pattern is real.
  • The reported accuracy is measured on random splits of the Leipzig corpus, so out-of-domain Navajo text—social media, code-switched speech, dialectal variants, transcribed oral narratives—could perform worse; testing on such data would clarify actual deployment behavior.
  • A natural extension is to treat the classifier's confidence scores as a signal for which languages are genuinely confusable with Navajo, which could guide linguists toward documenting dialectal or orthographic overlaps.
  • If the Western/Eastern Apachean performance difference is robust, a model trained on all Athabaskan languages jointly might outperform the single Navajo-trained model and provide a blueprint for other endangered language families.
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3 major / 6 minor

Summary. The paper addresses the absence of Navajo in Google's LangID by training a 100-tree random forest with 5,000 features to classify Navajo versus the twenty languages that LangID most often suggests for Navajo sentences. Using Leipzig corpora for both Navajo and the distractor languages, the model is trained on 153,832 samples and evaluated on a random held-out split of 38,458 samples, where it reaches 97% overall accuracy and Navajo precision/recall/F1 of 1.00/0.99/0.99. The authors then test the same classifier on 107 curated Apache sentences and interpret the percentages classified as Navajo as evidence of robustness across the Athabaskan family. They release code and data on GitHub. The Navajo-only result is plausible, but the paper's broader Athabaskan claim is not supported by the experiment as designed.

Significance. If restricted to the 21-way benchmark, the paper provides a transparent, reproducible baseline: it reports per-class metrics, a full confusion matrix, and public code/data, and it shows that a simple random forest can separate Navajo from its LangID confusables with high accuracy. That is a modest but real contribution to low-resource language identification, particularly as a counterexample to the assumption that such tools require large neural models. The claimed extension to other Athabaskan languages, however, is not merely under-supported; the reported metric measures false positives, so the paper currently overstates its scope. After correcting that interpretation, the remaining contribution is a focused Navajo-language identification system rather than a family-level tool.

major comments (3)
  1. [Section 3.4 / Table 2] The paper's central generalization claim, repeated in the abstract and conclusion, is that the classifier demonstrates robustness across other Athabaskan languages. The only evidence is Table 2, which reports the percentage of Apache sentences classified as Navajo. Under the 21-way task defined in Section 3.2, the classifier has no Apache class, so every Apache sentence that receives the label Navajo is a false positive. A trivial always-Navajo baseline would achieve 100% on every Apache language, so the reported 100% for Mescalero Apache and 96% for Western Apache are consistent with a model that has learned no Apache-specific rejection behavior. These numbers therefore do not show generalization; they show that the model cannot distinguish closely related Apache languages from Navajo, which is the opposite of the stated claim. The abstract, Section 3.4, and the conclusion must be rewritten to remove or invert this interpretation, ideally with a baseline that includes a reject option or an Apache-inclusive classifier.
  2. [Section 3.3 (evaluation split)] The near-perfect accuracy is computed on a random split of the Leipzig corpora (153,832 training samples and 38,458 test samples). Because the Navajo and distractor sentences come from the same Leipzig sources, the test set is likely to be highly similar to the training text in topic, genre, and orthography. This supports the statement that the classifier separates the 21 classes in this corpus, but it does not by itself support the broader claim of accurate language detection for Navajo text in the wild. If the authors retain real-world applicability language, they should add an out-of-domain evaluation using, for example, a separate Navajo corpus, social media text, or community-collected sentences, or they should clearly restrict the claim to the benchmark distribution.
  3. [Conclusion and Limitations] The conclusion states that the study demonstrates effective recognition of related Athabaskan languages, while the Limitations section concedes that the design assumes a binary distinction between Navajo and other languages without considering intra-group variation and dialectical differences. This internal tension is not harmless: the family-level claim is precisely what the limitation negates. Section 3.4 goes further and interprets the varying false-positive rates for Western and Mescalero Apache (96-100%) versus Jicarilla and Lipan Apache (62-92%) as evidence about the Western and Eastern Apachean subgroups; with only 13-37 sentences per language and no confidence intervals, this observation cannot support a linguistic generalization. The paper should either add a proper multi-class Apache evaluation or state plainly that the classifier is Navajo-specific.
minor comments (6)
  1. [Abstract] The phrase near-perfect accuracy (97-100%) is not supported by Section 3.3, which reports a single overall accuracy of 97%; per-language F1 scores in Table 1 range from 0.87 to 0.99, so the meaning of the 97-100% range should be clarified.
  2. [Table 1] The row format concatenates the numeric class label with the language name and the metrics in a way that is hard to read; separate the class index, language name, precision, recall, and F1 into distinct columns.
  3. [Figure 2] The x-axis order is arbitrary and only eight of the twenty languages are shown; either show all twenty languages or explicitly state that the figure is a subset.
  4. [Section 3.4] The sentence 'The detection for Navajo performed best for Western Apache and Mescalero Apache' is misleading because the values are false-positive rates; a detector that rejects more Apache sentences would be better, so the wording should be revised to 'the highest false-positive rates were observed for...'.
  5. [Limitations] The Limitations section refers to Google Translate instead of Google LangID; the terminology should be consistent throughout the paper.
  6. [Section 3.2 and Appendix A] The feature representation is described only as 5,000 features; please specify whether these are character n-grams, word n-grams, or another type, and clarify how the aligned words in Appendix A relate to the four Apache varieties tested in Table 2, since the appendix appears to draw on Chiricahua Apache rather than those four languages.

Circularity Check

1 steps flagged · score 4.0 of 10

Primary Navajo accuracy result is a genuine held-out evaluation, but the Athabaskan generalization claim in Section 3.4 and the Abstract is a renamed false-positive rate rather than an independent prediction.

  1. renaming known result [Section 3.4, Table 2; Abstract]
    "Upon running this subset through the classifier, initially trained to distinguish Navajo from other languages, we observed that the classifier often identified these Apache languages as Navajo. This result is particularly significant given the linguistic similarities within the Athabaskan language family, to which both Navajo and the Apache languages belong. The classifier's performance here underscores its ability not only to identify Navajo with high accuracy but also to generalize across related languages within the same family."

    The model's label space contains Navajo plus twenty unrelated languages; no Apache class exists. Table 2 therefore reports the percentage of Apache test sentences assigned the Navajo label, which is by construction the false-positive rate with respect to Apache. The conclusion that the model 'generalizes across related languages' is this confusion rate renamed as success. A degenerate model that always predicted Navajo would also yield 100% for Mescalero Apache and 96% for Western Apache, matching the table's pattern. The claimed Athabaskan robustness is not derived from Apache supervision or an Apache-specific prediction; it is the paper's own output quantity, the Navajo false-positive rate, relabeled as generalization.

full rationale

The central Navajo-vs-20-languages result is self-contained: the random forest is trained on distinct language classes and evaluated on a held-out test split, giving genuine precision/recall/F1 numbers in Table 1 and the 97% accuracy. The self-citation to Yang et al. 2025 is only a contextual reference to prior endangered-language work and is not load-bearing. The only circular step is the Athabaskan generalization claim: Section 3.4 treats the model's tendency to label Apache sentences as Navajo as evidence of cross-Athabaskan robustness, even though the label set includes no Apache language and the reported metric is exactly a false-positive rate. The paper's own Limitations section concedes the binary design and narrow scope, which further supports that the Apache percentages measure confusion rather than generalization. Because the central Navajo identification result remains empirically independent, the paper is only partially circular; the broader Athabaskan claim reduces to a renamed misclassification.

Assumptions & free parameters 2 free parameters · 3 assumptions · 0 invented entities

The paper contributes no new theory or postulated entities. The central accuracy result depends on the training data being correctly labeled and representative, the false-suggestion language list being sufficient as negatives, and the small web-scraped Apache corpus being authentic. Two model hyperparameters are chosen by hand, and the paper reports no tuning, ablations, or uncertainty quantification.

free parameters (2)
  • num_trees = 100
    Random forest hyperparameter selected without reported tuning or ablation.
  • feature_dimension = 5000
    Feature vector size chosen by hand; authors note it may miss fine linguistic distinctions.
assumptions (3)
  • domain assumption Leipzig corpora labels are correct and sentences are monolingual.
    Section 3.1 builds both the Navajo and negative-language datasets from Leipzig corpora without manual verification of label accuracy.
  • domain assumption The 20 languages suggested by Google LangID are the relevant confusable set for Navajo.
    Section 3.1 defines the classification task using only LangID's erroneous suggestions, so real-world confusable languages outside this list are not evaluated.
  • domain assumption Web-scraped Apache texts are authentic and representative.
    Section 3.1 and Table 2 rely on curated texts from Glosbe, Wikipedia, Indians.org, and a library source; no provenance validation or speaker verification is reported.

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  year         = {2026},
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Endangered languages, such as Navajo - the most widely spoken Native American language - are significantly underrepresented in contemporary language technologies, exacerbating the challenges of their preservation and revitalization. This study evaluates Google's Language Identification (LangID) tool, which does not currently support any Native American languages. To address this, we introduce a random forest classifier trained on Navajo and twenty erroneously suggested languages by LangID. Despite its simplicity, the classifier achieves near-perfect accuracy (97-100%). Additionally, the model demonstrates robustness across other Athabaskan languages - a family of Native American languages spoken primarily in Alaska, the Pacific Northwest, and parts of the Southwestern United States - suggesting its potential for broader application. Our findings underscore the pressing need for NLP systems that prioritize linguistic diversity and adaptability over centralized, one-size-fits-all solutions, especially in supporting underrepresented languages in a multicultural world. This work directly contributes to ongoing efforts to address cultural biases in language models and advocates for the development of culturally localized NLP tools that serve diverse linguistic communities.

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Figure 1. Google’s LangID does not currently support [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p001_1.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 2. Visual representation of some erroneously [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p002_2.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 3. Classification results for Navajo and 20 other [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p003_3.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 4. Figure 4: Family Tree for Athabaskan Languages in underrepresented Native American languages. Nevertheless, addressing the few misclassifications through enhanced training could further improve accuracy and generalization. The stable performance of our classifier serves as a cou…
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Figure 5. Figure 5: Aligned Words from Chiricahua Apache Mimbreno Nde Nation (2024) [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p008_5.png]

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