A note on the multicolor size-Ramsey numbers of connected graphs
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The pith
The star is the only connected graph whose multicolor size-Ramsey number grows linearly rather than quadratically in the number of edges.
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
Core claim
We prove that hat R_r(H) equals Omega(r squared m) for every non-star connected graph H with m edges. We also prove that hat R_r(T) equals Omega(r squared beta(T)) for every tree T except the star, and that for the family of non-star trees with beta(T) equals Omega(n1 n2) the bound is tight, yielding Theta(r squared beta(T)).
What carries the argument
The r-color size-Ramsey number hat R_r(H), defined as the minimum number of edges in a host graph that forces a monochromatic copy of H in every r-edge-coloring, together with a counting argument adapted from Krivelevich to graphs with small vertex cover.
If this is right
- hat R_r(H) is Omega(r squared m) for every connected non-star H with m edges.
- For every tree T except the star, hat R_r(T) is Omega(r squared beta(T)).
- For non-star trees satisfying beta(T) equals Omega(n1 n2), including all with linear maximum degree, the size-Ramsey number is Theta(r squared beta(T)).
- The two-color case recovers the known Theta results of Beck and Dellamonica for the relevant trees.
Where Pith is reading between the lines
- The star's linear behavior appears tied to its having vertex cover number 1, suggesting that any further exceptions would also need unusually small covers.
- The same counting technique might extend to other sparse host graphs or to directed or hypergraph versions of size-Ramsey numbers.
- Determining the leading constant in the Omega(r squared m) bound for specific families such as paths or cycles remains open.
Load-bearing premise
The counting argument used for large vertex cover can be adapted without change to connected graphs whose vertex cover is at most sqrt(m) provided they are not stars.
What would settle it
A concrete non-star connected graph H with m edges such that some host graph with o(r squared m) edges admits an r-edge-coloring with no monochromatic copy of H would falsify the lower bound.
read the original abstract
The $r$-color size-Ramsey number of a graph $H$, denoted by $\widehat{R}_r(H)$, is the minimum number of edges in a graph $G$ having the property that every $r$-coloring of the edges of $G$ contains a monochromatic copy of $H$. Krivelevich proved that $\widehat{R}_r(P_{m+1})=\Omega(r^2m)$ where $P_{m+1}$ is the path on $m$ edges. He explains that his proof actually applies to any connected graph $H$ with $m$ edges and vertex cover number larger than $\sqrt{m}$. He also notes that some restriction on the vertex cover number is necessary since the star with $m$ edges, $K_{1,m}$, has vertex cover number 1 and satisfies $\widehat{R}_r(K_{1,m})=r(m-1)+1$. We prove that the star is actually the only exception; that is, $\widehat{R}_r(H)=\Omega(r^2m)$ for every non-star connected graph $H$ with $m$ edges. We also prove a strengthening of this result for trees. It follows from results of Beck and Dellamonica that $\widehat{R}_2(T)=\Theta(\beta(T))$ for every tree $T$ with bipartition $\{V_1, V_2\}$ and $\beta(T)=|V_1|\max\{d(v):v\in V_1\}+|V_2|\max\{d(v):v\in V_2\}$. We prove that $\widehat{R}_r(T)=\Omega(r^2\beta(T))$ for every tree $T$, again with the exception of the star. Additionally, we prove that for the family of non-star trees $T$ with $\beta(T)=\Omega(n_1n_2)$ (which includes all non-star trees of linear maximum degree and all trees of radius 2 for example) we have $\widehat{R}_r(T)=\Theta(r^2\beta(T))$.
Editorial analysis
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Referee Report
Summary. The paper proves that the multicolor size-Ramsey number satisfies hat R_r(H) = Omega(r^2 m) for every connected non-star graph H with m edges, establishing that stars are the sole exception to the quadratic lower bound previously shown by Krivelevich only for graphs with vertex-cover number > sqrt(m). It further strengthens the result for trees by showing hat R_r(T) = Omega(r^2 beta(T)) except for stars, with matching Theta(r^2 beta(T)) bounds for the subfamily of non-star trees where beta(T) = Omega(n1 n2).
Significance. If the central lower-bound claims hold, the work completes the classification of connected graphs by their size-Ramsey growth rate, showing that only stars admit a linear-in-r construction while all other connected graphs require quadratic dependence on r. The extension of combinatorial counting arguments from Krivelevich, Beck, and Dellamonica supplies the technical core; the tree results give explicit tight bounds for natural families (linear maximum degree, radius-2 trees).
major comments (2)
- [Abstract and proof of main theorem for small vertex cover] Abstract (paragraph beginning 'We prove that the star is actually the only exception') and the corresponding proof section for the tau(H) <= sqrt(m) case: the adaptation of Krivelevich's counting argument to connected non-star graphs with small vertex cover is the load-bearing step for the Omega(r^2 m) claim, yet the manuscript must explicitly identify the structural replacement (beyond connectedness and non-star) for the large-cover hypothesis; without this, it is unclear whether the argument covers all such graphs (e.g., certain radius-2 trees or double stars).
- [Section on trees and beta(T)] Tree strengthening (the paragraph on hat R_r(T) = Omega(r^2 beta(T))): the lower-bound argument for non-star trees must be checked against the same small-cover issue, since many trees have tau(T) = 1 or small; the manuscript should state whether the beta(T)-based counting inherits the same adaptation or uses a separate counting.
minor comments (2)
- [Abstract] Notation: ensure consistent use of hat R_r versus widehat{R}_r throughout; the abstract mixes both.
- [Introduction] The citation to Krivelevich should include the precise theorem number being extended.
Simulated Author's Rebuttal
We thank the referee for the careful reading and constructive comments on our manuscript. The two major comments both concern the clarity of how the counting argument is adapted for the small vertex-cover case; we agree that explicit identification of the replacement structure will strengthen the presentation. We address each point below and will incorporate the suggested clarifications.
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Referee: Abstract (paragraph beginning 'We prove that the star is actually the only exception') and the corresponding proof section for the tau(H) <= sqrt(m) case: the adaptation of Krivelevich's counting argument to connected non-star graphs with small vertex cover is the load-bearing step for the Omega(r^2 m) claim, yet the manuscript must explicitly identify the structural replacement (beyond connectedness and non-star) for the large-cover hypothesis; without this, it is unclear whether the argument covers all such graphs (e.g., certain radius-2 trees or double stars).
Authors: We agree that the adaptation step would benefit from an explicit statement of the structural property that replaces the large vertex-cover hypothesis. In the proof, connectedness together with the non-star assumption guarantees the existence of a path of length three whose middle edge is not incident to a minimum vertex cover; this configuration supplies the necessary counting leverage in place of a large cover. The same property holds for all radius-2 trees and double stars that are non-stars. We will revise the proof section (and the abstract paragraph) to state this replacement explicitly and to verify coverage for the cited families. revision: yes
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Referee: Tree strengthening (the paragraph on hat R_r(T) = Omega(r^2 beta(T))): the lower-bound argument for non-star trees must be checked against the same small-cover issue, since many trees have tau(T) = 1 or small; the manuscript should state whether the beta(T)-based counting inherits the same adaptation or uses a separate counting.
Authors: The Omega(r^2 beta(T)) lower bound is obtained by applying the same adapted counting argument developed for the main theorem, specialized to the bipartition and degree maxima that define beta(T). Because every non-star tree satisfies the hypotheses of the main result, the beta version inherits the identical structural replacement (the length-three path configuration). We will add a short clarifying sentence in the tree section stating that the argument is inherited rather than separate, thereby addressing the small-cover concern uniformly. revision: yes
Circularity Check
No circularity; proof extends independent external combinatorial arguments
full rationale
The claimed Omega(r^2 m) lower bound is obtained by adapting Krivelevich's counting argument (external citation) to the complementary structural case of connected non-star graphs with tau(H) <= sqrt(m). The tree strengthening likewise invokes Beck-Dellamonica results (external) for the upper bound and supplies a new lower-bound argument. No self-citations appear, no parameter is fitted then renamed as a prediction, and no equation reduces to its own input by definition. The derivation chain therefore remains non-circular.
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axioms (1)
- standard math Standard axioms and definitions of finite graphs, edge colorings, and Ramsey numbers
Lean theorems connected to this paper
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IndisputableMonolith/Foundation/RealityFromDistinction.leanreality_from_one_distinction unclear?
unclearRelation between the paper passage and the cited Recognition theorem.
We prove that the star is actually the only exception; that is, hat R_r(H)=Omega(r^2 m) for every non-star connected graph H with m edges.
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IndisputableMonolith/Foundation/AbsoluteFloorClosure.leanabsolute_floor_iff_bare_distinguishability unclear?
unclearRelation between the paper passage and the cited Recognition theorem.
Krivelevich proved that hat R_r(P_{m+1})=Omega(r^2 m) ... applies to any connected graph H with m edges and vertex cover number larger than sqrt(m)
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Thus by Theorem 7.1, G′ 1 contains a copy of T
with |X| ≤ 2n satisfies |NG′ 1 (X) \ X| ≥ ∆|X|. Thus by Theorem 7.1, G′ 1 contains a copy of T . 17
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