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Time vs. Layer: Locating Predictive Cues for Dysarthric Speech Descriptors in wav2vec 2.0

Natalie Engert , Dominik Wagner , Korbinian Riedhammer , Tobias Bocklet This is my paper

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keywords dysarthriawav2vec 2.0speech descriptorslayer-wise aggregationtime-wise modelingintelligibilitypathological speech analysis
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Wav2vec 2.0 layer-wise features best predict intelligibility in dysarthric speech, while time-wise features suit imprecise consonants, harsh voice and monoloudness.

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The paper tests which parts of wav2vec 2.0's speech representations are most useful for predicting different problems in dysarthric speech from the Speech Accessibility Project. It compares pulling features from different layers of the model against pulling features across the time dimension of the audio. Results indicate that overall speech understandability is best predicted by layer information, pointing to how the model builds up higher-level understanding in its deeper layers. Problems with consonant precision, voice harshness, and loudness consistency improve when using time-based features, which may pick up on local timing and variation issues. Inappropriate silences did not favor one method over the other.

Core claim

Using attentive statistics pooling on wav2vec 2.0 features extracted from dysarthric speech, layer-wise aggregation yields the best regression performance for intelligibility scores, whereas time-wise aggregation performs better for imprecise consonants, harsh voice, and monoloudness. No advantage is found for either strategy when predicting inappropriate silences.

What carries the argument

Attentive statistics pooling applied either layer-wise or time-wise to the representations from a wav2vec 2.0 feature extractor.

Load-bearing premise

The layer-wise and time-wise aggregation strategies using attentive statistics pooling are able to isolate the most predictive cues for each descriptor without substantial loss of relevant information from the wav2vec 2.0 representations.

What would settle it

A replication study on an independent dysarthric speech corpus that finds time-wise aggregation superior for intelligibility prediction would falsify the claim that layer-wise representations are best for that descriptor.

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Wav2vec 2.0 (W2V2) has shown strong performance in pathological speech analysis by effectively capturing the characteristics of atypical speech. Despite its success, it remains unclear which components of its learned representations are most informative for specific downstream tasks. In this study, we address this question by investigating the regression of dysarthric speech descriptors using annotations from the Speech Accessibility Project dataset. We focus on five descriptors, each addressing a different aspect of speech or voice production: intelligibility, imprecise consonants, inappropriate silences, harsh voice and monoloudness. Speech representations are derived from a W2V2-based feature extractor, and we systematically compare layer-wise and time-wise aggregation strategies using attentive statistics pooling. Our results show that intelligibility is best captured through layer-wise representations, whereas imprecise consonants, harsh voice and monoloudness benefit from time-wise modeling. For inappropriate silences, no clear advantage could be observed for either approach.

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Referee Report

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Summary. The manuscript investigates the location of predictive information in wav2vec 2.0 representations for regressing five dysarthric speech descriptors (intelligibility, imprecise consonants, inappropriate silences, harsh voice, monoloudness) from the Speech Accessibility Project dataset. It compares layer-wise versus time-wise aggregation, both using attentive statistics pooling, and reports that layer-wise aggregation is superior for intelligibility while time-wise is better for imprecise consonants, harsh voice and monoloudness, with no clear advantage for inappropriate silences.

Significance. If the empirical rankings hold under proper statistical scrutiny, the work offers a useful descriptive map of where W2V2 encodes different aspects of dysarthria. The isolation of the aggregation dimension (layer vs. time) on a public dataset is a strength that supports reproducibility and can inform feature-extraction choices in pathological speech modeling.

major comments (2)
  1. [Results] Results section: the abstract and reported directional findings lack any mention of statistical tests, p-values, confidence intervals, error bars, dataset size, or cross-validation procedure. Without these, it is impossible to determine whether the claimed advantages (e.g., layer-wise for intelligibility) are statistically reliable or could arise from sampling variability.
  2. [§3] §3 (Methods): the claim that the comparison isolates the layer-vs-time dimension rests on the assumption that attentive statistics pooling introduces no differential bias across the two aggregation axes. No ablation with alternative pooling (mean, max, or learned attention variants) is described, leaving open the possibility that the observed preferences are pooling-specific rather than dimension-specific.
minor comments (3)
  1. [§2] Provide the exact number of utterances and speakers used for each descriptor, along with any speaker-independent partitioning details.
  2. [§3] Clarify whether the same W2V2 checkpoint and fine-tuning regime is used for all five descriptors or whether descriptor-specific adaptation occurs.
  3. [Results] Table or figure presenting the regression metrics should include both the primary metric and a secondary one (e.g., Pearson r alongside MSE) to allow readers to judge effect sizes.

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We thank the referee for their detailed and constructive feedback on our manuscript. We have carefully considered the major comments and provide point-by-point responses below, along with our plans for revision.

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  1. Referee: [Results] Results section: the abstract and reported directional findings lack any mention of statistical tests, p-values, confidence intervals, error bars, dataset size, or cross-validation procedure. Without these, it is impossible to determine whether the claimed advantages (e.g., layer-wise for intelligibility) are statistically reliable or could arise from sampling variability.

    Authors: We fully agree that the absence of statistical tests and related details weakens the interpretability of our results. Although the experiments were conducted using cross-validation on the Speech Accessibility Project dataset (with speaker-independent folds to avoid data leakage), we did not report p-values, confidence intervals, or error bars in the submitted version. In the revised manuscript, we will include these elements: dataset sizes per descriptor, a detailed description of the cross-validation procedure, error bars on the performance plots, and statistical significance tests (e.g., paired t-tests or Wilcoxon tests) comparing layer-wise and time-wise aggregations. This will allow readers to assess the reliability of the directional findings. revision: yes

  2. Referee: [§3] §3 (Methods): the claim that the comparison isolates the layer-vs-time dimension rests on the assumption that attentive statistics pooling introduces no differential bias across the two aggregation axes. No ablation with alternative pooling (mean, max, or learned attention variants) is described, leaving open the possibility that the observed preferences are pooling-specific rather than dimension-specific.

    Authors: This is a valid concern. Our experimental design holds the pooling function constant (attentive statistics pooling) across both aggregation strategies to focus on the layer versus time dimension. We selected this pooling method because it has proven effective in prior speech processing work for capturing relevant statistics. Nevertheless, we acknowledge that the results may depend on the choice of pooling. In the revision, we will expand the discussion in §3 and the conclusion to explicitly state this limitation and recommend that future studies explore alternative pooling methods (such as simple mean pooling or max pooling) to test the generalizability of the layer/time preferences. We believe this addresses the core issue without requiring extensive new experiments at this stage. revision: partial

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full rationale

The paper is an empirical study that extracts representations from a pre-trained wav2vec 2.0 model, applies two standard aggregation strategies (layer-wise vs. time-wise with attentive statistics pooling), and regresses five dysarthric speech descriptors on the public Speech Accessibility Project annotations. No equations, derivations, or parameter-fitting steps are described that would reduce any reported result to its own inputs by construction. The central claims are comparative performance rankings obtained from the experimental design itself; these rankings are externally falsifiable on the named dataset and do not rely on self-citations, uniqueness theorems, or ansatzes imported from prior author work. The work therefore contains no load-bearing circular steps.

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Based on abstract only, the paper relies on standard assumptions from self-supervised speech modeling literature without detailing new free parameters or invented entities; attentive statistics pooling is invoked as the aggregation method.

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  • domain assumption Attentive statistics pooling is a suitable method for aggregating W2V2 representations to capture predictive cues for dysarthric descriptors.
    Used as the core aggregation strategy in the study but not justified or compared to alternatives in the abstract.

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