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arxiv: 2009.05029 · v5 · submitted 2020-09-10 · 🧮 math.FA

Phase retrieval of bandlimited functions for the wavelet transform

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Any wavelet with finitely many vanishing moments uniquely recovers real-valued bandlimited signals from the magnitude of its transform, up to global sign.

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The paper examines phase retrieval for wavelet transforms, meaning the recovery of a signal solely from the absolute values of its wavelet coefficients. It proves a uniqueness result: real-valued bandlimited signals can be recovered uniquely up to sign flip when the analyzing wavelet has only finitely many vanishing moments. This matters because many signals in applications are bandlimited, and the result removes stricter requirements on the wavelet that appeared in earlier work. The authors also give the first uniqueness statements for sampled measurements, including with complex wavelets and for the Cauchy wavelet.

Core claim

Any wavelet with finitely many vanishing moments allows for the unique recovery of real-valued bandlimited signals up to global sign from the absolute values of their wavelet transforms. The paper additionally establishes the first uniqueness result for sampled wavelet phase retrieval when the wavelets may be complex-valued, together with a uniqueness result for phase retrieval from sampled Cauchy wavelet transform measurements.

What carries the argument

The continuous wavelet transform of real bandlimited functions, with the finite-vanishing-moments condition on the wavelet serving as the mechanism that forces uniqueness up to sign.

If this is right

  • Phase retrieval becomes possible for every wavelet satisfying the finite-vanishing-moments condition when the signal is real and bandlimited.
  • Sampled wavelet measurements suffice for unique recovery even when the wavelet is complex-valued.
  • Sampled Cauchy wavelet measurements likewise determine the underlying real bandlimited signal up to sign.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • The bandlimited restriction may be removable in future work by combining this result with density arguments.
  • The uniqueness could guide the design of reconstruction algorithms that alternate between wavelet magnitude constraints and bandlimit projections.
  • Similar finite-moment conditions might yield uniqueness statements for other integral transforms on bandlimited domains.

Load-bearing premise

The signals are real-valued and bandlimited and the wavelet has finitely many vanishing moments.

What would settle it

Two distinct real bandlimited functions, not differing by a global sign, whose wavelet transforms have identical absolute values for some wavelet with finitely many vanishing moments.

Figures

Figures reproduced from arXiv: 2009.05029 by Francesca Bartolucci, Matthias Wellershoff, Rima Alaifari.

Figure 1
Figure 1. Figure 1: The Morlet wavelet ψ for ξ0 = 5 in time and frequency representation. Observe that the Fourier transform of ψ is not identically zero on the negative frequencies but it is numerically small. in [20, 21]. We also refer to [16] for a concise presentation. Let ξ0, β ∈ R. The chirplet is defined by windowing a linear chirp with a Gaussian: ψ(x) = e i(ξ0+βx/2)x e −x 2/2 + η(x). Again, the corrective term η is a… view at source ↗
Figure 2
Figure 2. Figure 2: The linear-chirp wavelet for β = 1 and ξ0 = 5 in time and frequency representa￾tion. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 −0.1 0.1 0.2 0.3 0.4 0.5 ψb [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p014_2.png] view at source ↗
Figure 3
Figure 3. Figure 3: The Cauchy wavelet ψb(ξ) = ξ 2 e −ξ1ξ>0. measurements |Wψf| for progressive wavelets ψ (see Remark 12 in Section 3). It does, however, raise the following question: (Q) Is there a class of signals which can be recovered (up to global phase) from wavelet transform magnitude measurements with progressive mother wavelets? In general, this question is hard to answer. An elegant partial answer is however given … view at source ↗
read the original abstract

We study the recovery of square-integrable signals from the absolute values of their wavelet transforms, also called wavelet phase retrieval. We present a new uniqueness result for wavelet phase retrieval. To be precise, we show that any wavelet with finitely many vanishing moments allows for the unique recovery of real-valued bandlimited signals up to global sign. Additionally, we present the first uniqueness result for sampled wavelet phase retrieval in which the underlying wavelets are allowed to be complex-valued and we present a uniqueness result for phase retrieval from sampled Cauchy wavelet transform measurements.

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Referee Report

2 major / 2 minor

Summary. The manuscript studies phase retrieval from the modulus of the continuous wavelet transform. Its central result asserts that any wavelet possessing finitely many vanishing moments permits unique recovery (up to global sign) of real-valued bandlimited signals. Additional results are stated for uniqueness from sampled wavelet measurements when the wavelet may be complex-valued and for sampled Cauchy-wavelet measurements.

Significance. If the uniqueness statements are correct, the work supplies the first general uniqueness theorem for wavelet phase retrieval that requires only finite vanishing moments rather than stronger non-vanishing conditions on the Fourier transform of the wavelet. This would enlarge the set of admissible wavelets for theoretical and numerical phase-retrieval studies and would complement existing results that rely on analyticity or specific wavelet families.

major comments (2)
  1. [Abstract / §1] Abstract and §1 (central claim): the statement that 'any wavelet with finitely many vanishing moments' yields uniqueness for real bandlimited signals is not obviously compatible with the fact that vanishing moments control only the jet of hat{psi} at omega=0. The manuscript must either (a) prove that no other zeros of hat{psi} can occur inside the band of the signal or (b) add an auxiliary hypothesis that hat{psi}(omega) != 0 for omega in the support of the signal spectrum. Without one of these, the uniqueness claim is at risk of counter-examples consisting of signals whose spectra lie in a zero of hat{psi}.
  2. [§3] §3 (proof of the main uniqueness theorem): the argument must be checked for an explicit non-vanishing assumption on hat{psi} over the frequency interval of interest. If the proof proceeds solely from finite vanishing moments without controlling other zeros, the step that recovers the Fourier transform from the modulus of the wavelet transform is incomplete.
minor comments (2)
  1. [§2] Notation for the continuous wavelet transform and its sampled version should be introduced with a single consistent symbol set rather than switching between W_psi f and CWT notations.
  2. [§4] The statement of the sampled Cauchy-wavelet result should clarify whether the sampling grid is uniform or adapted to the scale parameter.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

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We thank the referee for the careful reading and constructive comments. We address the major comments point by point below.

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  1. Referee: [Abstract / §1] Abstract and §1 (central claim): the statement that 'any wavelet with finitely many vanishing moments' yields uniqueness for real bandlimited signals is not obviously compatible with the fact that vanishing moments control only the jet of hat{psi} at omega=0. The manuscript must either (a) prove that no other zeros of hat{psi} can occur inside the band of the signal spectrum or (b) add an auxiliary hypothesis that hat{psi}(omega) != 0 for omega in the support of the signal spectrum. Without one of these, the uniqueness claim is at risk of counter-examples consisting of signals whose spectra lie in a zero of hat{psi}.

    Authors: We agree that the phrasing in the abstract and §1 requires clarification. Finite vanishing moments ensure admissibility by controlling the behavior at zero but do not rule out other zeros of hat{psi}. The uniqueness proof relies on hat{psi} being non-vanishing on the frequency support of the bandlimited signal to recover the Fourier transform from the modulus. We will revise the abstract and §1 to add the explicit auxiliary hypothesis that hat{psi}(omega) != 0 for omega in the support of the signal spectrum. This resolves the concern about potential counterexamples. revision: yes

  2. Referee: [§3] §3 (proof of the main uniqueness theorem): the argument must be checked for an explicit non-vanishing assumption on hat{psi} over the frequency interval of interest. If the proof proceeds solely from finite vanishing moments without controlling other zeros, the step that recovers the Fourier transform from the modulus of the wavelet transform is incomplete.

    Authors: The proof in §3 does use the non-vanishing of hat{psi} over the frequency interval to justify the inversion step from the modulus. This assumption is implicit in the recovery but not stated explicitly in the theorem or proof. We will revise §3 to state the non-vanishing hypothesis explicitly and reference it in the relevant steps. The finite vanishing moments are used separately to handle the low-frequency behavior. revision: yes

Circularity Check

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No significant circularity; derivation rests on direct mathematical arguments

full rationale

The paper states a uniqueness theorem for wavelet phase retrieval of real bandlimited signals using wavelets with finitely many vanishing moments. The abstract and provided excerpts present this as a new result derived from properties of the wavelet transform and bandlimitedness, without reference to fitted parameters, self-definitional constructs, or load-bearing self-citations that reduce the claim to its inputs. The skeptic concern addresses potential gaps in the theorem's hypotheses (additional zeros in the Fourier transform) but does not identify any circular reduction in the derivation chain itself. This is a standard non-circular mathematical proof structure.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

0 free parameters · 2 axioms · 0 invented entities

The central claim rests on standard assumptions from functional analysis and wavelet theory without introducing free parameters or new entities.

axioms (2)
  • standard math Wavelet transform is well-defined on L2 functions with the given vanishing moments property
    Invoked to establish the transform properties used in uniqueness proofs.
  • domain assumption Bandlimited real-valued functions form a suitable function class for recovery
    The uniqueness holds specifically under this restriction on the signals.

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