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Signal, Image, or Symbolic: Exploring the Best Input Representation for Electrocardiogram-Language Models Through a Unified Framework

T0 review · 4 major / 5 minor · reviewed 2026-08-07 · deepseek-v4-flash

Pith's one-line read Symbolic, tokenized ECG representations are the most effective input modality for ECG-language models, beating raw signals and images in generative benchmarks.

desk verdict Broad, useful benchmark of complete pipelines, but the headline claim that symbolic tokens are the best input representation is confounded by a one-to-one mapping between representation and training paradigm. read the letter →

arxiv 2505.18847 v1 pith:XGLKOTVM submitted 2025-05-24 cs.AI cs.CL

classification cs.AIcs.CL
keywords electrocardiogram-languagemodelsECGtokenizationbyte-pairencodinginputrepresentationbenchmarkautoregressivegenerationmultimodallargelanguagesymbolictimeseriesrobustness
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The pith

A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.

The reading

This paper asks which way of feeding an electrocardiogram (ECG) into a generative language model works best: raw time-series values, a rendered image, or a discretized symbolic token sequence. It builds a unified training and evaluation framework covering four input variants, six public datasets, and five text-generation metrics, and it reports that the symbolic representation, produced by ECG-Byte's quantization plus byte-pair encoding, wins the most statistically significant comparisons and also generalizes best in zero-shot evaluation. The practical conclusion, if the finding holds, is that researchers building ECG-language models should tokenize ECGs into discrete symbols rather than invest in ECG-specific encoders or vision adapters for generative tasks. The paper also cautions that even the best representation remains far below expert cardiologist performance.

What carries the argument

The load-bearing mechanism is ECG-Byte, a tokenizer that maps each normalized, amplitude-quantized ECG trace into a sequence over a 26-symbol alphabet and then applies byte-pair encoding, iteratively merging frequent symbol pairs into an extended token vocabulary. This converts the ECG into the same discrete token stream as the text, so the whole model is one autoregressive language model trained end-to-end on a masked next-token loss without a separate ECG encoder or learned projection layer. The evaluation machinery is a paired t-test across five random seeds that converts per-metric differences into counts of statistically significant wins, with robustness checks under random perturbation.

What would settle it

Train raw-signal, image, and symbolic inputs under a single identical training procedure (same LLM, same optimizer, same sequence budget, and an end-to-end objective for all three) and rerun the paired comparisons. If the symbolic advantage shrinks to statistical noise or reverses, the central claim is an artifact of the per-representation training pipelines; if it survives, the conclusion is materially stronger.

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Extended reading notes

Core claim

On the paper's own terms, the central discovery is that the tokenized symbolic input $X_{ID}$ is the most effective modality for autoregressive ECG-language models. In the head-to-head benchmark, $X_{ID}$ trained end-to-end accumulates the most statistically significant wins (9) compared with the best raw-signal encoder MERL (4) and the best image encoders (1 each), and it attains the highest mean scores across all five metrics in the zero-shot PULSE ECG-Bench evaluation. The authors further find that this advantage widens when longer ECG segments are used ($L=2500$) and that the model remains stable under added Gaussian noise and baseline wander, supporting their conclusion that symbolic tokenization is the preferred input representation for generative ELMs.

Load-bearing premise

Each representation is tested only with its own training pipeline—raw signals through a two-stage encoder, images through a frozen pretrained vision encoder with a learned projector, and symbols through direct end-to-end token training—so the paper must assume that the performance differences come from the representation itself rather than from the pipeline.

Editorial extensions

If this is right

  • Tokenized symbolic ECG input should become the default representation for generative ECG-language modeling, since it wins on more dataset-metric pairs than any raw-signal or image-based configuration.
  • End-to-end symbolic training eliminates the need for a dedicated ECG encoder and its pretraining stage, so scaling an ELM reduces to scaling an ordinary language model on token streams.
  • The symbolic advantage grows with longer ECG segments, so longer context windows favor tokenized inputs over single-token compressed representations.
  • At short sequence budgets ($T=512$) symbolic models degrade because signal tokens must be truncated, whereas image and raw-signal pipelines that compress the ECG into one token stay stable; practitioners with tight memory may prefer those pipelines.
  • Even the best representation is not clinically expert-level, so the benchmark should be read as a guide for representation choice, not as a claim of ready-for-bedside accuracy.

Reading between the lines

Editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • Beyond the paper: the decisive test that the benchmark does not run is an equal-pipeline comparison—training raw-signal and image inputs with the exact same end-to-end objective used for symbols—so the representation-level conclusion still depends on the training-paradigm confound.
  • Beyond the paper: if symbolic tokenization transfers, the same quantization-plus-BPE recipe could be applied to other physiological traces, such as intracardiac electrograms or photoplethysmography, wherever free-form generative reports are wanted.
  • Beyond the paper: because perturbation robustness differences were small across all representations, deployment choices may ultimately hinge on data availability, hardware budgets, and interoperability with text-only toolchains rather than on generative quality alone.
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Editorial analysis

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Desk editor's note, referee report, and a circularity audit.

Referee Report

4 major / 5 minor

Summary. The paper presents a benchmark of four ECG input representations (raw signal Xsig, stacked signal X*sig, rendered image Ximg, and tokenized symbolic sequence XID) for autoregressive ECG-language models (ELMs). Using three training paradigms (2-Stage Scratch, End-to-End LLaVA, and End-to-End), the authors evaluate across six public datasets and five text-generation metrics, plus robustness and ablations of LLM backbone, sequence length, and ECG length. The headline claim is that symbolic tokenized representations (ECG-Byte) constitute the most effective input modality, with the greatest number of statistically significant wins, strong robustness, and efficient scaling.

Significance. If the central claim were supported, the paper would offer clear guidance for ELM architecture choices and would be a useful contribution to a rapidly growing area. The open-sourced unified framework, the breadth of datasets and encoders, and the systematic ablations are genuine strengths. However, the study's design does not isolate input representation from the training pipeline: every representation is evaluated with exactly one associated training paradigm, and the paper's own ablations (Table 5) show that token budget, not symbolic content per se, likely drives much of the observed advantage. The significance of the empirical result is therefore currently limited to comparing complete pipelines, not input representations.

major comments (4)
  1. [§5.1, Table 1] The central comparison confounds input representation with training paradigm. Xsig always uses 2-Stage Scratch with a from-scratch ECG encoder, Ximg and X*sig always use End-to-End LLaVA with frozen pretrained encoders, and XID always uses End-to-End training with ECG-Byte tokens. The paper itself notes this in the Figure 2 caption and in §5.1, but the conclusion 'symbolic, tokenized representations of ECGs constitute the most effective input modality' (§6) is a claim about the representation, not about a pipeline. At least four factors vary simultaneously: representation, encoder initialization, trainable parameters, and the number of signal tokens seen by the LLM (one token vs. a long sequence). The strongest counter-explanation is that ECG-Byte wins because End-to-End training lets the LLM see thousands of ECG tokens and optimize directly on the generation loss, whereas the other pipelines compress the 12-lead signal into a single token before the LLM sees it. The T=512 ablation (Table 5) supports this: when the ECG-Byte token budget is truncated, its performance collapses, while the single-token pipelines remain stable. To support the representation-level claim, the authors need either a design that holds the training paradigm fixed (e.g., comparing Xsig and XID both in an End-to-End setup, or Ximg and XID both in the same paradigm), or the conclusion must be reformulated as a claim about the End-to-End ECG-Byte pipeline.
  2. [§6 vs. §5.1] The significance analysis does not support the statement that symbolic representations achieve 'statistically significant wins over both signal and image inputs.' For each (dataset, metric) pair, only the top-2 models are compared with a paired t-test over five seeds. This means ECG-Byte is never directly compared against most signal/image variants. In fact, Table 8 shows numeric losses for ECG-Byte on some metrics (e.g., ECG-QA MIMIC-IV-ECG BLEU-4: MERL 19.77 and CLIP-Ximg 19.92 vs. ECG-Byte 16.47; ECG-QA PTB-XL METEOR: MTAE 27.09 vs. ECG-Byte 28.95? Actually ECG-Byte wins there; but the point stands that not all pairwise comparisons are made). The aggregated 'win count' also omits losses and effect sizes. Reporting only wins over the runner-up, without correction for multiple testing and without pairwise comparisons to all baselines, overstates the evidence for the headline claim.
  3. [§5.3, Table 3] The Discussion (Section 6) states the results are 'significant wins in two-sample z-tests,' while Section 5.1 describes paired t-tests across five seeds. This is an internal inconsistency. Moreover, a paired t-test with n=5 has very low power and is sensitive to the assumption of normally distributed differences; the paper does not report effect sizes or confidence intervals. Given that the 'significant wins' table is the backbone of the conclusion, the statistical methodology needs to be made consistent and more robust, and the number of comparisons should be acknowledged.
  4. The robustness experiment is interpreted as evidence that symbolic models 'effectively leverage compressed symbolic information even when signal fidelity degrades' (Section 6). However, the perturbation deltas are tiny and often positive even for non-symbolic baselines (e.g., SigLIP X*sig accuracy +0.13, CLIP X*sig accuracy +0.11), and the paper itself notes in Section 5.3 that the language model may 'derive limited utility from the raw signal.' This pattern is more consistent with the model mostly ignoring the ECG input than with robust representation use. A negative control that ablates or randomizes the ECG input (e.g., replacing it with noise or a constant signal) would be needed to determine whether any representation is actually being used. As written, the robustness section does not provide discriminating evidence for the symbolic representation.
minor comments (5)
  1. [§3.3] The ECG-Byte tokenizer is trained with 5000 BPE merges and an instance-normalization scheme that deviates from the original ECG-Byte methodology (global percentiles). These are free parameters that could affect the comparison; a brief justification or ablation of the normalization choice would strengthen the paper.
  2. [§5.1, Figure 2] The spider charts are difficult to read because many overlapping series are plotted on the same axes; the reader must rely on Table 8 for exact values. Consider showing per-dataset bar charts with error bars or a faceted layout.
  3. [§2.3] The sentence 'some studies speculate that design choices in signal plotting can significantly affect a model's ability to interpret the visualization' lacks a citation; please add a reference or remove the attribution.
  4. [§6] The phrase 'efficient scaling' in the conclusion is not directly demonstrated: Table 6 shows performance increasing with ECG length for ECG-Byte, but no scaling-law analysis or compute comparison is provided. Please either support this term or replace it with a more specific statement.
  5. [§4.1] The data split mention of '70:10' (rather than 70/10/20 or 70/20/10) is ambiguous; please clarify the actual train/test split proportions.

Circularity Check

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No circular derivation; the representation-versus-pipeline confound is a validity threat, not a circularity.

full rationale

This paper is an empirical benchmark, not a derivation chain, and no prediction reduces to a fitted input by construction. The central comparison does vary representation and training pipeline together (Section 5.1: 'We denote input modality variants as Xsig, X*sig, Ximg, and Xid, corresponding to 2-Stage Scratch, End-to-End LLaVA, End-to-End LLaVA, and End-to-End training, respectively'), and the paper's own Figure 2 caption states that each representation 'utilize[s]' a specific paradigm. That is a genuine experimental confound that weakens the causal claim about representation, but it is not a circular reduction: the reported metrics are not defined in terms of the conclusion, and no parameter is fitted to the test labels and then relabeled as a prediction. The ECG-Byte tokenizer comes from the authors' prior work, but its hyperparameters (5000 merges, 300,000 sampled signals) were fixed before evaluation, and the paper even modifies the normalization scheme; this is reuse of a published tool, not a self-citation that smuggles in the target result. The benchmark is externally falsifiable through public datasets such as PULSE ECG-Bench. The confound should be fixed with a matched design, but under the circularity rubric it does not raise the score.

Assumptions & free parameters 2 free parameters · 4 assumptions · 0 invented entities

This is an empirical benchmark rather than a derivation, so the axiom ledger is limited. The main load-bearing choices are the pairing of each representation with a fixed training paradigm and the ECG-Byte tokenizer hyperparameters. No new theoretical entities are introduced.

free parameters (2)
  • ECG-Byte BPE merge count = 5000 merges
    Chosen when training the ECG-Byte tokenizer on 300,000 ECG signals. The symbolic representation, and therefore the central comparison, depends on this hyperparameter.
  • ECG-Byte normalization scheme = Instance min-max normalization to [0,1]
    The paper deviates from the original ECG-Byte global-percentile normalization by using per-record min-max scaling. This choice affects the tokenizer and is specific to the symbolic pipeline.
assumptions (4)
  • domain assumption Autoregressive next-token prediction with cross-entropy loss is a valid objective for ECG-language models.
    The entire benchmark is built on this training objective; other approaches such as classification or non-autoregressive generation are out of scope.
  • standard math Paired t-tests over 5 random seeds are a valid way to compare model performance.
    The test assumes independent and normally distributed per-seed differences. With n=5 this is fragile, and the paper aggregates many tests without multiple-comparison correction.
  • domain assumption Each representation is tested only with its canonical training paradigm, and observed differences are attributed to the representation.
    Xsig uses 2-Stage Scratch, Ximg and X*sig use End-to-End LLaVA, and XID uses End-to-End training. This confound is load-bearing for the central claim.
  • domain assumption The ECG preprocessing pipeline (filtering, resampling to 250 Hz, segmentation) preserves clinically relevant information equally across all input representations.
    If preprocessing disproportionately harms one representation, the comparison is biased. The paper applies the same preprocessing to all signals before transformation.

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Recent advances have increasingly applied large language models (LLMs) to electrocardiogram (ECG) interpretation, giving rise to Electrocardiogram-Language Models (ELMs). Conditioned on an ECG and a textual query, an ELM autoregressively generates a free-form textual response. Unlike traditional classification-based systems, ELMs emulate expert cardiac electrophysiologists by issuing diagnoses, analyzing waveform morphology, identifying contributing factors, and proposing patient-specific action plans. To realize this potential, researchers are curating instruction-tuning datasets that pair ECGs with textual dialogues and are training ELMs on these resources. Yet before scaling ELMs further, there is a fundamental question yet to be explored: What is the most effective ECG input representation? In recent works, three candidate representations have emerged-raw time-series signals, rendered images, and discretized symbolic sequences. We present the first comprehensive benchmark of these modalities across 6 public datasets and 5 evaluation metrics. We find symbolic representations achieve the greatest number of statistically significant wins over both signal and image inputs. We further ablate the LLM backbone, ECG duration, and token budget, and we evaluate robustness to signal perturbations. We hope that our findings offer clear guidance for selecting input representations when developing the next generation of ELMs.

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Figure 1
Figure 1. A high-level overview of our training and evaluation pipeline. The input data is represented as X = {Xsig, X∗ sig, Ximg, XID} as seen in Step 1. Step 2 comprises two modes: Encoder training and LLM training. During Encoder training, an ECG-specific encoder is trained from scratch. In LLM training, any method used to compress the ECG into an appropriate representation for the ELM is denoted by F(∗) for simplicity; th… view at source ↗
Figure 2
Figure 2. Spider charts for the performance of each model and training paradigm. We want to note that Xsig, X∗ sig, Ximg, and XID utilize 2-Stage Scratch, End￾to-End LLaVA, End-to-End LLaVA, and End-to-End training paradigms respectively. We include a table representing the same results in [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p009_2.png] view at source ↗

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