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arxiv: 2602.15120 · v2 · submitted 2026-02-16 · ✦ hep-th · gr-qc

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How to have your wormholes and factorize, too

Marc S. Klinger
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keywords semiclassical gravityholographic dictionarygravitational path integralfactorization problemPage curvebaby universesinformation paradoxwormholes
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Modifying the semiclassical holographic dictionary enables an extended gravitational path integral that factorizes, follows the Page curve for entropy, and includes operators for closed baby universes.

A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.

Semiclassical gravity faces three persistent inconsistencies: the factorization problem, where the path integral fails to separate as expected for independent regions; the information problem, concerning the von Neumann entropy of black holes; and the closed universe problem, involving the treatment of disconnected spacetimes. The paper argues that adjusting the standard semiclassical holographic dictionary supplies the flexibility needed to tackle all three issues in one framework without discarding established features of the correspondence. This adjustment supports construction of an extended path integral that remains manifestly factorizing, produces entropy consistent with the Page curve, and introduces new operators capable of creating closed baby universe states. The proposal can be read as a semiclassical implementation of background independence or as preparation for an ensemble of dual quantum theories.

Core claim

By using a modified semiclassical holographic dictionary as scaffolding, the authors outline a program to build an extended semiclassical gravitational path integral that is manifestly factorizing, computes a von Neumann entropy satisfying the Page curve, and incorporates new operators that create closed baby universe states. The construction preserves core aspects of the standard holographic correspondence while allowing interpretations as imposing semiclassical background independence, a modified large N limit, an ensemble of dual theories, or observer rules enforced by gravitational degrees of freedom.

What carries the argument

The modified semiclassical holographic dictionary, which acts as scaffolding to extend the gravitational path integral with manifest factorization and baby-universe creation operators.

If this is right

  • The extended path integral is manifestly factorizing across disconnected regions.
  • The computed von Neumann entropy follows the Page curve rather than the semiclassical Hawking result.
  • New operators exist that create closed baby universe states within the path integral.
  • The setup can be interpreted as enforcing a semiclassical version of no global symmetry or background independence.
  • The construction prepares an ensemble of dual theories rather than a single one.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • The same dictionary adjustment might be tested in other holographic models involving replica wormholes to see if factorization emerges more generally.
  • If successful, the approach could reduce reliance on full non-perturbative quantum gravity for resolving these paradoxes at leading semiclassical order.
  • The ensemble interpretation suggests possible links to random-matrix descriptions of black-hole microstates without invoking additional structures.
  • Observer rules enforced by gravitational degrees of freedom could be probed by examining how the new operators affect late-time correlation functions.

Load-bearing premise

That adjusting the semiclassical holographic dictionary supplies enough freedom to resolve the factorization, information, and closed-universe problems simultaneously while leaving other established features of the correspondence intact.

What would settle it

An explicit computation in a controlled toy model, such as a simple wormhole geometry, that checks whether the extended path integral produces a factorized partition function whose entropy follows the Page curve and whether the new baby-universe operators remain consistent with the rest of the construction.

Figures

Figures reproduced from arXiv: 2602.15120 by Marc S. Klinger.

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Figure 1. Figure 1: The standard path integral of quantum field theory. The notation [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p004_1.png] view at source ↗
Figure 2
Figure 2. Figure 2: Obstructions to the consistency of semiclassical gravity. [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p005_2.png] view at source ↗
Figure 3
Figure 3. Figure 3: To resolve the factorization problem, the channel [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p014_3.png] view at source ↗
Figure 4
Figure 4. Figure 4: To resolve the information problem, the quantum conditional entropy associated with the map [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p015_4.png] view at source ↗
Figure 5
Figure 5. Figure 5: To resolve the closed universe problem, the extended degrees of freedom induced from the [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p017_5.png] view at source ↗
Figure 6
Figure 6. Figure 6: Conditions required to recover a consistent mathematical theory with the modified holographic [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p020_6.png] view at source ↗
Figure 7
Figure 7. Figure 7: The extended gravitational algebra can be interpreted as a gluing of two (smooth) AdS bulk [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p021_7.png] view at source ↗
Figure 8
Figure 8. Figure 8: A taxonomy for completely positive maps. [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p025_8.png] view at source ↗
read the original abstract

We review three well known inconsistencies in the standard mathematical formulation of semiclassical gravity: the factorization problem, the information problem, and the closed universe problem. Building upon recent work, we explore how modifying the semiclassical holographic dictionary may provide the necessary freedom to resolve these three problems in a unified manner while maintaining more well established aspects of the standard correspondence. Using the modified semiclassical holographic dictionary as a scaffolding, we propose a program for constructing an `extended' semiclassical gravitational path integral which (i) is manifestly factorizing, (ii) computes a von Neumann entropy which satisfies the Page curve, and (iii) incorporates new operators that create closed baby universe states. Our construction may be interpreted as imposing a semiclassical version of background independence/a no global symmetry condition, defining a modified large N limit, preparing an ensemble of dual theories, or enforcing observer rules using gravitational degrees of freedom.

Editorial analysis

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Referee Report

2 major / 1 minor

Summary. The paper reviews three inconsistencies in the standard formulation of semiclassical gravity—the factorization problem, the information problem, and the closed universe problem—and proposes that a suitable modification of the semiclassical holographic dictionary can resolve them simultaneously while preserving established aspects of the correspondence. Using this modified dictionary as scaffolding, it outlines a program to construct an 'extended' semiclassical gravitational path integral that (i) is manifestly factorizing, (ii) yields a von Neumann entropy obeying the Page curve, and (iii) includes new operators creating closed baby-universe states; the construction is interpreted as a semiclassical version of background independence, a modified large-N limit, an ensemble of dual theories, or observer rules enforced by gravitational degrees of freedom.

Significance. If the proposed program can be made concrete, it would offer a unified conceptual framework for addressing longstanding puzzles in holographic quantum gravity, potentially reconciling wormhole contributions with factorization and unitarity while incorporating gravitational degrees of freedom for observers and closed universes.

major comments (2)
  1. [Abstract and proposal section] The manuscript presents the modified semiclassical holographic dictionary only programmatically (see abstract and the proposal for the extended path integral) without supplying explicit rules, an altered measure, or the operator algebra that would simultaneously enforce manifest factorization, Page-curve compliance for von Neumann entropy, and the inclusion of baby-universe operators. This absence leaves the central claim that the three resolutions are compatible unverified.
  2. [Construction program] No explicit equations, calculations, or verification steps are provided for the extended path integral (see the construction program), so it is impossible to check whether the claimed properties hold or whether hidden inconsistencies with bulk locality or boundary unitarity are introduced.
minor comments (1)
  1. [Abstract] The abstract could more sharply separate the review of the three problems from the new proposal to aid readability.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

2 responses · 0 unresolved

We thank the referee for their careful reading and insightful comments. Our manuscript is intended as a conceptual proposal for a program rather than a complete explicit construction, and we respond to the major comments below.

read point-by-point responses

  1. Referee: [Abstract and proposal section] The manuscript presents the modified semiclassical holographic dictionary only programmatically (see abstract and the proposal for the extended path integral) without supplying explicit rules, an altered measure, or the operator algebra that would simultaneously enforce manifest factorization, Page-curve compliance for von Neumann entropy, and the inclusion of baby-universe operators. This absence leaves the central claim that the three resolutions are compatible unverified.

    Authors: We agree that the presentation is programmatic. The manuscript reviews the three inconsistencies and uses the modified semiclassical holographic dictionary as scaffolding to outline how an extended path integral could resolve them simultaneously. Explicit rules, measures, and operator algebras are deliberately not supplied at this stage because the focus is on establishing the conceptual compatibility of the resolutions while preserving established aspects of the correspondence. The central claim is that the modified dictionary provides the necessary freedom for such a construction; explicit verification is left for future work building on this proposal. revision: no

  2. Referee: [Construction program] No explicit equations, calculations, or verification steps are provided for the extended path integral (see the construction program), so it is impossible to check whether the claimed properties hold or whether hidden inconsistencies with bulk locality or boundary unitarity are introduced.

    Authors: We agree that the construction program is presented at a high level without explicit equations or calculations. It serves as an outline indicating the steps needed to build an extended path integral that is manifestly factorizing, yields a Page curve for the von Neumann entropy, and incorporates baby-universe operators. Verification of the properties and checks for potential inconsistencies with bulk locality or boundary unitarity form part of the subsequent development of the program. The proposal is designed to maintain consistency with established features of the holographic correspondence. revision: no

Circularity Check

1 steps flagged

Extended path integral defined by construction to be factorizing, Page-curve compliant, and baby-universe inclusive

specific steps
  1. self definitional [Abstract]
    "Using the modified semiclassical holographic dictionary as a scaffolding, we propose a program for constructing an `extended' semiclassical gravitational path integral which (i) is manifestly factorizing, (ii) computes a von Neumann entropy which satisfies the Page curve, and (iii) incorporates new operators that create closed baby universe states."

    The extended path integral is introduced with the three resolving properties built directly into its definition. Claiming that the modified dictionary resolves the factorization, information, and closed-universe problems therefore reduces to restating the definition; no independent derivation or explicit dictionary map is given that would demonstrate the properties emerge rather than being imposed.

full rationale

The manuscript's core proposal is a program that, by explicit definition, produces an extended semiclassical path integral possessing the three desired properties (manifest factorization, Page curve for von Neumann entropy, and closed baby-universe operators). This is presented as following from a modified holographic dictionary whose concrete rules are not supplied; the resolution of the three inconsistencies is therefore stipulated rather than independently derived. The text frames the construction as scaffolding rather than a derivation with explicit measure or operator algebra, rendering the central claim self-definitional. No load-bearing external theorem or parameter-free computation is invoked to establish that the modification simultaneously achieves all three outcomes without hidden inconsistencies.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

0 free parameters · 2 axioms · 2 invented entities

The central claim rests on the assumption that a modified holographic dictionary can be consistently defined and that the resulting path integral satisfies the three listed properties. No explicit free parameters or invented entities with independent evidence are stated in the abstract.

axioms (2)
  • domain assumption The standard semiclassical holographic dictionary leads to the factorization, information, and closed universe inconsistencies.
    Invoked in the opening review of the three problems.
  • ad hoc to paper A suitable modification of the dictionary exists that resolves the inconsistencies while preserving established aspects of the correspondence.
    Central premise of the proposed program.
invented entities (2)
  • extended semiclassical gravitational path integral no independent evidence
    purpose: To be manifestly factorizing, compute Page-curve entropy, and include baby-universe operators.
    The main object whose construction is proposed.
  • new operators that create closed baby universe states no independent evidence
    purpose: To incorporate closed baby universes into the path integral.
    Introduced as part of the extended construction.

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