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An 18 - 25 GHz spectroscopic survey of southern hemisphere dense cores

Dariusz C. Lis, Jorge L. Pineda, Karen Willacy, Liton Majumdar, Shinji Horiuchi, Susanna Widicus Weaver

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keywords dense coresastrochemistryC/O ratiochemical ageradio spectroscopymolecular column densitiessouthern hemisphereK-band survey

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Southern dense cores show C/O ratios of 0.5-0.7 and chemical ages of 0.6-5 Myr, unlike TMC-1.

A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.

The paper reports K-band radio observations of seven southern dense cores and derives column densities for seven molecules under the assumption of local thermodynamic equilibrium. These ratios are then matched against predictions from an astrochemical model to estimate each core's elemental C/O ratio and its chemical age since formation. The resulting values cluster tightly around C/O of 0.5 to 0.7 and ages between 0.6 and 5 million years. This pattern differs markedly from the higher C/O ratio of about 1.4 found in the well-studied northern core TMC-1. The work demonstrates how targeted radio surveys combined with models can place new constraints on the chemical state of star-forming gas in the southern sky.

Core claim

By observing seven southern dense cores across 18-25 GHz and deriving LTE column densities for NH3, c-C3H2, HC3N, HC5N, CCS, C3S, and c-C3HD, the survey shows that most cores share C/O elemental ratios of 0.5-0.7 and chemical ages of 0.6-5 Myr. These values stand in clear contrast to the TMC-1 core, which has a higher C/O ratio of approximately 1.4. Less dense cores within the sample tend to display the oldest chemical ages, consistent with chemical timescales scaling inversely with density.

What carries the argument

Observed molecular column density ratios compared against predictions from a state-of-the-art astrochemical model to jointly constrain C/O ratio and chemical age.

If this is right

Dense cores across different galactic locations share more uniform chemical compositions than suggested by northern reference sources alone.
Chemical age increases as density decreases, as expected from the density dependence of reaction timescales.
K-band spectroscopic surveys can be used to estimate C/O ratios and ages for additional southern sources.
The difference from TMC-1 indicates that elemental abundance ratios vary between star-forming regions.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

The tight clustering of C/O values may point to similar initial elemental abundances or formation conditions in the southern sample.
Repeating the survey at other frequencies or with additional molecules could test whether the same C/O and age ranges hold more broadly.
If the pattern persists, models of galactic chemical evolution may need to incorporate regional variations in C/O rather than assuming a single typical value.

Load-bearing premise

The column densities derived under local thermodynamic equilibrium accurately reflect the true molecular abundances and the astrochemical model correctly maps those ratios onto C/O and age.

What would settle it

Independent measurements of the C/O ratio in the same cores, for example through infrared ice absorption features or atomic fine-structure lines, that fall outside the 0.5-0.7 range.

Figures

Figures reproduced from arXiv: 2604.05917 by Dariusz C. Lis, Jorge L. Pineda, Karen Willacy, Liton Majumdar, Shinji Horiuchi, Susanna Widicus Weaver.

**Figure 1.** Figure 1: DSS-43 observations of HOPS-108. (Panels a–c) Ammonia inversion lines. Green curves correspond to HFS fits to the (1,1) and (2,2) transitions and a two-component gaussian fit to the (3,3) transition. (Panel d) Normalized χ 2 of the Weeds fit as a function of the excitation temperature. (Panel e) Best Weeds fit to the (1,1) transition corresponding to an excitation temperature of 8 K. (Panels f-m) Spectra… view at source ↗

**Figure 2.** Figure 2: (top panel) shows the excitation temperature of the NH3 (1,1) line (the strongest HFS component in the case of Loreau et al. 2023 cross-sections) in HOPS-108 as a function of the gas density. The calculations assume a kinetic temperature of 19.6 K, as determined above, a FWHM line width of 1.3 km s−1 , and an NH3 column density of 1.5 × 1014 cm−2 , which approximately reproduces the observed intensity of … view at source ↗

**Figure 3.** Figure 3: Models ratios/observed ratios for best fit model for each core. The horizontal dashed lines show ratios of 10 and 0.1. Cha C2 and MMS1 models assume the "low n" conditions derived in this paper. CCS/HC3N ratio, for which the model underpredicts the observed ratio. This discrepancy likely reflects a combination of the longstanding “sulfur depletion” problem in astrochemistry (Majumdar et al., 2016; Vidal e… view at source ↗

read the original abstract

We extended the radio K-band spectroscopic survey for organics in southern hemisphere dense cores by observing seven sources using NASA's Deep Space Network 70-m antenna in Canberra, Australia, over the frequency range of 18 to 25 GHz. Molecular column densities of NH$_3$, $c$-C$_3$H$_2$, HC$_3$N, HC$_5$N, CCS, C$_3$S, and $c$-C$_3$HD were derived for each source assuming LTE. The resulting column density ratios were compared with predictions of a state-of-the art astrochemical model to constrain the C/O ratio and chemical age of each source. Most cores have similar C/O ratios of $0.5 - 0.7$, much different from the best studied TMC-1 dense core characterized by a high C/O ratio of $\sim 1.4$. The chemical ages of the cores are also similar and fall between 0.6 and 5~Myr. The less dense cores tend to have the oldest chemical ages, as might be expected given that chemical timescales scale with density. Our results showcase the synergistic approach of combining radio observations using the DSS-43 antenna with state-of-the-art astrochemical models to study the chemical composition of southern hemisphere dense cores, enabling constraints on their C/O ratios and chemical ages, which remain largely unexplored.

Editorial analysis

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Desk Editor's Note private letter to a colleague

New southern K-band spectra for seven dense cores yield C/O ratios of 0.5-0.7 and ages 0.6-5 Myr via model fitting, but the inference lacks a direct check that the same model recovers TMC-1's known high C/O.

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This paper reports 18-25 GHz observations of seven southern dense cores with the DSS-43 antenna and derives column densities for NH3, c-C3H2, HC3N, HC5N, CCS, C3S, and c-C3HD under LTE. They then match the observed ratios to a state-of-the-art astrochemical model grid to extract C/O ratios and chemical ages, finding most cores cluster at C/O 0.5-0.7 and ages 0.6-5 Myr, in contrast to TMC-1's ~1.4. The less dense cores appear older, which aligns with density-dependent chemical timescales. The data themselves are new for these sources and extend prior northern surveys in a straightforward way. The approach of pairing radio observations with modeling to constrain C/O and age is reasonable and produces concrete numbers that could be compared across regions. The main soft spot is that the headline difference from TMC-1 depends entirely on the model's accuracy at high C/O. The abstract and description give no indication that the authors ran the model at C/O ≈ 1.4 and verified it reproduces TMC-1's observed ratios before applying it to the southern cores. Without that test, any systematic offset in predicted carbon-chain abundances would make the low-C/O result an artifact rather than a physical finding. LTE is assumed without apparent checks on optical depth or excitation conditions, the sample is small, and the abstract omits error bars or model parameter details. The work is honest in its framing and cites relevant prior surveys. It is aimed at interstellar chemists and dense-core modelers who want southern data points. The observations are solid enough to warrant referee time, though the modeling step needs explicit validation against known benchmarks like TMC-1 before the C/O claims can be taken at face value. I would send it for review with a request for those checks.

Referee Report

3 major / 3 minor

Summary. The manuscript reports an 18-25 GHz spectroscopic survey of seven southern dense cores using NASA's DSS-43 70-m antenna. LTE-derived column densities for NH3, c-C3H2, HC3N, HC5N, CCS, C3S, and c-C3HD are compared to predictions from a state-of-the-art astrochemical model grid to infer C/O ratios of 0.5-0.7 and chemical ages of 0.6-5 Myr for most cores, which are found to be similar across the sample and distinct from the higher C/O ratio (~1.4) of TMC-1. The work also notes a possible trend of older chemical ages in less dense cores.

Significance. If the model-based inferences hold after validation, the results would supply valuable new constraints on the chemical evolution of dense cores in the southern hemisphere, highlighting regional differences from well-studied northern regions like TMC-1 and illustrating how density influences chemical timescales. The new observational dataset from an under-explored frequency range and sky region is a clear strength, as is the attempt to combine radio spectroscopy with modern astrochemical modeling to derive physical parameters.

major comments (3)

[§5] §5 (chemical modeling and comparison): The central claim that southern cores have C/O ratios of 0.5-0.7 (distinct from TMC-1 at ~1.4) is obtained by matching observed column-density ratios to the model grid, yet the manuscript provides no test showing that the same model recovers the known TMC-1 ratios when run at C/O ≈ 1.4 and an age of a few Myr. This validation step is load-bearing; without it, systematic model bias in carbon-chain predictions at high C/O could artifactually produce the reported low-C/O values for the southern sample.
[§4] §4 (column density derivation): Column densities are derived assuming LTE for all listed species, but the text contains no justification for this assumption (e.g., critical density checks or non-LTE modeling for the observed transitions) nor any reported uncertainties or error bars on the final C/O ratios and ages. These omissions directly affect the quantitative strength of the headline numerical results.
[§5] §5 and Table of results: The model is described only as 'state-of-the-art' with no explicit listing of its free parameters, reaction network version, or grid spacing in C/O and age; the mapping from observed ratios to best-fit C/O and age therefore lacks the transparency needed to assess robustness or reproducibility.

minor comments (3)

[Abstract] The abstract would be strengthened by including the number of sources surveyed and at least indicative uncertainties on the reported C/O and age ranges.
[Methods] The manuscript should cite the specific astrochemical model (name, version, key references) in the methods section rather than using the generic phrase 'state-of-the-art astrochemical model'.
[Figures] Figure captions and axis labels for any model-observation comparison plots should explicitly state the C/O and age values of the best-fit tracks shown.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

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We thank the referee for their constructive and detailed comments on our manuscript. We address each of the major comments below and will revise the manuscript to incorporate the suggested improvements.

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Referee: [§5] §5 (chemical modeling and comparison): The central claim that southern cores have C/O ratios of 0.5-0.7 (distinct from TMC-1 at ~1.4) is obtained by matching observed column-density ratios to the model grid, yet the manuscript provides no test showing that the same model recovers the known TMC-1 ratios when run at C/O ≈ 1.4 and an age of a few Myr. This validation step is load-bearing; without it, systematic model bias in carbon-chain predictions at high C/O could artifactually produce the reported low-C/O values for the southern sample.

Authors: We acknowledge that an explicit validation of the model against TMC-1 would strengthen the central claim. We will add this test to the revised manuscript by running the model at C/O ≈ 1.4 and ages of a few Myr and demonstrating that it recovers the observed TMC-1 column density ratios. This addition will confirm the absence of systematic bias in the carbon-chain predictions and support the reliability of the low C/O values derived for the southern cores. revision: yes
Referee: [§4] §4 (column density derivation): Column densities are derived assuming LTE for all listed species, but the text contains no justification for this assumption (e.g., critical density checks or non-LTE modeling for the observed transitions) nor any reported uncertainties or error bars on the final C/O ratios and ages. These omissions directly affect the quantitative strength of the headline numerical results.

Authors: The referee correctly notes the absence of justification for the LTE assumption and the lack of reported uncertainties. In the revised manuscript we will include critical density calculations for the observed transitions of NH3, c-C3H2, HC3N, HC5N, CCS, C3S, and c-C3HD to support the LTE approximation. We will also report uncertainties on the derived column densities and propagate these to provide error estimates on the inferred C/O ratios and chemical ages. revision: yes
Referee: [§5] §5 and Table of results: The model is described only as 'state-of-the-art' with no explicit listing of its free parameters, reaction network version, or grid spacing in C/O and age; the mapping from observed ratios to best-fit C/O and age therefore lacks the transparency needed to assess robustness or reproducibility.

Authors: We agree that greater transparency regarding the model is needed. The revised manuscript will include an expanded description of the astrochemical model, specifying the reaction network version, the free parameters that were varied, and the grid spacing and ranges explored in C/O ratio and chemical age. This information will allow readers to assess the robustness and reproducibility of the best-fit values. revision: yes

Circularity Check

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No significant circularity in the derivation chain

full rationale

The paper derives molecular column densities from new 18-25 GHz observations assuming LTE, then compares the resulting ratios to predictions from an external state-of-the-art astrochemical model grid to infer C/O ratios and chemical ages. This is a standard parameter-inference procedure using independent data and an independent model; the inferred values are not equivalent to the inputs by construction, nor are they renamed predictions or self-definitional. No self-citations, uniqueness theorems, or ansatzes are invoked in a load-bearing way in the provided text. The derivation remains self-contained against the external model benchmark.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

2 free parameters · 2 axioms · 0 invented entities

The central claims rest on the LTE assumption for column density derivation and the predictive accuracy of the astrochemical model for molecular ratios at different C/O values and ages; no independent verification of either is provided in the abstract.

free parameters (2)

C/O ratio
Constrained by fitting observed column density ratios to model predictions for each source.
chemical age
Constrained similarly by matching model predictions to observed ratios.

axioms (2)

domain assumption Local thermodynamic equilibrium (LTE) holds for the observed molecular lines in each core
Invoked to derive column densities from the 18-25 GHz spectra.
domain assumption The state-of-the-art astrochemical model correctly predicts column density ratios as a function of C/O and time
Used to interpret the observed ratios and extract C/O and age values.

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