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Numbers in a Beatty sequence which are orders only of cyclic, abelian or nilpotent groups
Pith reviewed 2026-05-09 17:06 UTC · model grok-4.3
The pith
Cyclic, abelian and nilpotent numbers in Beatty sequences have counting functions asymptotic to one over alpha times the usual counts.
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
Core claim
Let C(x), A(x) and N(x) denote the counting functions of cyclic, abelian and nilpotent numbers up to x. For the Beatty sequence B_alpha,beta with alpha irrational of finite type, the corresponding restricted counting functions #C^*(x), #A^*(x) and #N^*(x) inside the sequence satisfy the same asymptotic formulas as C(x), A(x) and N(x) multiplied by the constant factor 1/alpha.
What carries the argument
The adaptation of the analytic methods of Pollack and Just to Beatty sequences generated by an irrational alpha of finite type.
If this is right
- The natural density of cyclic numbers inside the Beatty sequence is exactly 1/alpha times their overall density.
- The same scaling by 1/alpha holds for the densities of abelian numbers and nilpotent numbers inside the sequence.
- The result applies uniformly for any fixed real offset beta.
- The asymptotic formulas remain valid for every irrational alpha of finite type.
Where Pith is reading between the lines
- If the finite-type restriction on alpha can be removed, the same scaling would hold for almost every irrational alpha.
- The uniformity across Beatty sequences suggests these group-order numbers are equidistributed with respect to other irrational rotations or mechanical words.
- The same transfer of analytic methods could be attempted for counting these numbers inside other lacunary sequences such as Piatetski-Shapiro sequences.
Load-bearing premise
The analytic methods of Pollack and Just transfer directly to the Beatty-sequence setting without new error terms or convergence issues caused by the irrational rotation.
What would settle it
For the golden-ratio Beatty sequence, compute the exact count of cyclic numbers up to x = 10^12 and verify whether it equals (1/alpha) times the known main term for C(x) plus an error smaller than the secondary term.
read the original abstract
Let \(C(x)\), \(A(x)\), and \(N(x)\) denote the counting functions of cyclic, abelian, and nilpotent numbers not exceeding \(x\), respectively. Their asymptotic formulas have been established in recent work by Pollack and Just. In this paper, by adapting the methods of Pollack and Just, we study the distribution of these numbers in Beatty sequences \(\mathcal{B}_{\alpha,\beta} = ([\alpha n + \beta])_{n=1}^{\infty}\), where \(\alpha > 1\) is an irrational number of finite type and \(\beta\) is a fixed real number. We prove that the counting functions \(\#C^*(x)\), \(\#A^*(x)\), and \(\#N^*(x)\) for cyclic, abelian, and nilpotent numbers in Beatty sequences satisfy asymptotic formulas that differ from those of Pollack and Just only by a factor \(1/\alpha\).
Editorial analysis
A structured set of objections, weighed in public.
Referee Report
Summary. The manuscript adapts the analytic methods of Pollack and Just to Beatty sequences B_{α,β} with α > 1 irrational of finite type. It claims that the counting functions #C^*(x), #A^*(x), and #N^*(x) for cyclic, abelian, and nilpotent numbers in the sequence satisfy the same asymptotic formulas as C(x), A(x), N(x) except for an extra factor of 1/α, with identical relative error terms.
Significance. If the error-term control carries over, the result shows that the distribution of these special group-order numbers is uniform in Beatty sequences under the finite-type hypothesis on α. This provides a concrete extension of the Pollack-Just theorems to a natural class of thin sets and demonstrates the robustness of the underlying tauberian or contour-integration arguments when the summation is restricted to an irrational rotation.
major comments (2)
- [Proof of the main asymptotic statements (likely the argument following the statement of the three main theorems)] The central claim requires that the restriction to the Beatty sequence introduces no new error larger than o(x/α). The manuscript asserts that the methods of Pollack and Just adapt verbatim, but the finite-type condition on α controls only certain Diophantine approximations; it is not immediate that every contribution from the irrational rotation (exponential sums, discrepancy in the orbit {αn + β}) remains absorbable in the contour integration or zero-density estimates used for the original asymptotics. A detailed comparison of the error bounds before and after the restriction is needed.
- [Introduction and statement of results] The abstract and introduction state that the counting functions differ from those of Pollack and Just 'only by a factor 1/α'. This requires that the main term is exactly (1/α) times the unrestricted main term and that the relative error is unchanged. Without an explicit verification that the tauberian remainder or the contribution from the poles/zeros is scaled by precisely 1/α while all other terms stay o(main term), the 'only by a factor 1/α' assertion is not fully substantiated.
minor comments (2)
- [Abstract] Notation: the symbols C^*(x), A^*(x), N^*(x) are introduced without an explicit definition in the abstract; a sentence clarifying that these count the relevant numbers lying in the Beatty sequence up to x would improve readability.
- [Introduction] The paper cites Pollack and Just for the unrestricted asymptotics; a brief reminder of the precise error terms obtained in those works (e.g., the exponent in the o-term) would help the reader assess whether the same exponent is claimed here.
Simulated Author's Rebuttal
We thank the referee for the thorough reading and valuable suggestions. The comments highlight areas where additional clarification on error terms would improve the manuscript. We address each major comment below and will revise accordingly.
read point-by-point responses
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Referee: [Proof of the main asymptotic statements (likely the argument following the statement of the three main theorems)] The central claim requires that the restriction to the Beatty sequence introduces no new error larger than o(x/α). The manuscript asserts that the methods of Pollack and Just adapt verbatim, but the finite-type condition on α controls only certain Diophantine approximations; it is not immediate that every contribution from the irrational rotation (exponential sums, discrepancy in the orbit {αn + β}) remains absorbable in the contour integration or zero-density estimates used for the original asymptotics. A detailed comparison of the error bounds before and after the restriction is needed.
Authors: We agree that an explicit comparison of error bounds strengthens the argument. The finite-type hypothesis on α ensures that the discrepancy of the sequence {αn + β} is O(1/N^δ) for some δ>0 in the relevant ranges, which is sufficient to bound the exponential sums arising from the indicator of the Beatty sequence. These bounds are absorbed into the zero-density estimates and contour shifts already present in Pollack-Just, without enlarging the o(x/α) term. In the revision we will insert a dedicated paragraph (or short subsection) immediately after the statements of the main theorems that compares the unrestricted error terms with the restricted ones term-by-term, citing the precise discrepancy bounds from the finite-type condition. revision: yes
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Referee: [Introduction and statement of results] The abstract and introduction state that the counting functions differ from those of Pollack and Just 'only by a factor 1/α'. This requires that the main term is exactly (1/α) times the unrestricted main term and that the relative error is unchanged. Without an explicit verification that the tauberian remainder or the contribution from the poles/zeros is scaled by precisely 1/α while all other terms stay o(main term), the 'only by a factor 1/α' assertion is not fully substantiated.
Authors: The main-term scaling follows at once from the fact that the Beatty sequence has asymptotic density 1/α; the tauberian theorems and residue calculations in Pollack-Just are applied to a Dirichlet series summed over the subsequence, which multiplies the principal terms by exactly 1/α. The relative error remains unchanged because the additional approximation error from the irrational rotation is smaller than the existing o(main term) by the finite-type hypothesis. To make this fully explicit we will add a short remark after the statement of the main theorems that tracks the scaling of each component (main term, tauberian remainder, pole/zero contributions) under the restriction. revision: partial
Circularity Check
No circularity: derivation adapts external analytic methods of Pollack and Just
full rationale
The paper states that it adapts the methods of Pollack and Just to obtain asymptotics for the Beatty-sequence counting functions that differ from the original ones only by the factor 1/α. This factor follows directly from the known density of the Beatty sequence B_{α,β}. No quantity is defined in terms of itself, no fitted parameter is relabeled as a prediction, and the load-bearing asymptotic formulas are imported from the external cited work rather than derived internally by reduction to the paper's own inputs. The finite-type hypothesis on α is invoked to control Diophantine approximations in the adaptation, but this does not create a self-referential loop or force the result by construction. The argument is therefore self-contained against the external benchmark of Pollack and Just.
Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger
axioms (2)
- domain assumption Standard analytic estimates for the distribution of cyclic/abelian/nilpotent numbers remain valid after restriction to a Beatty sequence.
- standard math α irrational of finite type ensures the Beatty sequence has the necessary uniform distribution properties.
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