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Poisson n-Lie algebras: constructions and the structure of solvable algebras

Bakhrom Omirov, Xinru Cao, Zafar Normatov

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keywords Poisson n-Lie algebrasJacobian constructionssolvable algebrasEngel's theoremLie's theoremhypo-nilpotent idealstensor productsnilpotent algebras

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Poisson n-Lie algebras arise from n-Lie algebras of Jacobians and correspond to ordinary Poisson algebras through explicit constructions.

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The paper develops a construction that turns n-Lie algebras defined by Jacobians into Poisson n-Lie algebras under specific conditions, and it also uses quotients to equip tensor products of Poisson algebras with Poisson n-Lie structures. It then shows how to recover a Poisson algebra from any Poisson n-Lie algebra, setting up a correspondence between the two classes. For the structure theory, analogues of Engel's and Lie's theorems are proved, along with characterizations of solvable and nilpotent Poisson n-Lie algebras. Results on hypo-nilpotent ideals and the fact that generalized eigenspaces form ideals are also given.

Core claim

The authors construct Poisson n-Lie algebras from n-Lie algebras of Jacobians under established conditions and formulate a general conjecture in the unital case. Tensor products of Poisson algebras admit natural Poisson n-Lie structures via suitable quotient constructions. Conversely, a Poisson algebra is constructed from a given Poisson n-Lie algebra, establishing a correspondence. Analogues of Engel's and Lie's theorems are obtained, providing a characterization of solvable and nilpotent Poisson n-Lie algebras in terms of the underlying algebraic structures. The notion of hypo-nilpotent ideals is introduced, with results on maximal such ideals in finite-dimensional solvable cases, and itis

What carries the argument

The Jacobian-based construction of Poisson n-Lie algebras together with the quotient construction for tensor products, and the correspondence to ordinary Poisson algebras.

Load-bearing premise

The conditions specified for the Jacobian n-Lie algebras to produce a Poisson n-Lie algebra via the construction are met.

What would settle it

An explicit counterexample where a tensor product quotient fails to satisfy the Poisson n-Lie bracket identities, or a unital example disproving the conjecture.

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In this paper, we develop a construction of Poisson $n$-Lie algebras arising from $n$-Lie algebras of Jacobians and establish conditions under which this construction yields a Poisson $n$-Lie algebra. We also formulate a general conjecture in the unital case. In addition, we show that tensor products of Poisson algebras admit natural Poisson $n$-Lie structures via suitable quotient constructions. Conversely, we construct a Poisson algebra from a given Poisson $n$-Lie algebra, thereby establishing a correspondence between these classes of algebras. Furthermore, we obtain analogues of Engel's and Lie's theorems and provide a characterization of solvable and nilpotent Poisson $n$-Lie algebras in terms of the underlying algebraic structures. We also introduce the notion of hypo-nilpotent ideals and prove results concerning maximal hypo-nilpotent ideals in finite-dimensional solvable Poisson $n$-Lie algebras. Finally, we show that generalized eigenspaces of multiplication operators form ideals.

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The paper supplies Jacobian-based constructions for Poisson n-Lie algebras, a tensor-product quotient method, a reverse correspondence, and hypo-nilpotent ideals with basic structure results for the solvable case.

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The main points are the explicit construction that turns n-Lie algebras of Jacobians into Poisson n-Lie algebras under stated conditions, the way tensor products of ordinary Poisson algebras yield Poisson n-Lie structures via quotients, and the reverse map that produces a Poisson algebra from a Poisson n-Lie algebra. They also introduce hypo-nilpotent ideals, prove analogues of Engel's and Lie's theorems, characterize solvable and nilpotent cases, and show that generalized eigenspaces of multiplication operators are ideals, with results on maximal hypo-nilpotent ideals in finite-dimensional solvable examples. A conjecture is left open for the unital case. These pieces are new relative to the cited prior work and stay within the standard toolkit of Jacobians, tensor products, and quotients without circular definitions or free parameters. The constructions are concrete enough that one can check the conditions and the correspondence directly. The structural claims for solvable algebras follow from the definitions in a straightforward way and give usable tools for that subclass. The main limitations are the restrictive conditions needed for the Jacobian construction to work, the open unital conjecture, and the finite-dimensional setting for the maximal-ideal results. Nothing in the claims contradicts itself or relies on unfalsifiable steps. This is aimed at people already working on n-ary generalizations of Lie and Poisson algebras who need new examples or ways to handle solvability. A reader in that narrow area can extract concrete constructions and ideal-theoretic facts to build on. It deserves peer review because the results are checkable, the novelty is real within the subfield, and the gaps are clearly marked rather than hidden.

Referee Report

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Summary. The paper develops constructions of Poisson n-Lie algebras from n-Lie algebras of Jacobians (with stated conditions, plus a formulated conjecture in the unital case), shows that tensor products of Poisson algebras yield natural Poisson n-Lie structures via quotients, and constructs a Poisson algebra from any given Poisson n-Lie algebra to establish a correspondence. It proves analogues of Engel's and Lie's theorems, characterizes solvable and nilpotent Poisson n-Lie algebras, introduces hypo-nilpotent ideals with results on maximal such ideals in finite-dimensional solvable cases, and proves that generalized eigenspaces of multiplication operators form ideals.

Significance. If the constructions and proofs hold, the work supplies explicit, non-circular ways to produce Poisson n-Lie algebras from standard objects (Jacobians, tensor products, quotients) and supplies structural results that generalize classical Lie-algebra theorems to the n-ary Poisson setting. The correspondence, the solvability/nilpotency characterizations, and the ideal-theoretic results (hypo-nilpotent and generalized eigenspace ideals) furnish concrete tools for classification and example generation in this area.

minor comments (3)

[Theorem on Jacobian construction] The precise hypotheses under which the Jacobian construction produces a Poisson n-Lie algebra (mentioned in the abstract) should be restated verbatim in the main theorem statement for easy reference.
[Section on tensor-product quotients] A small explicit example illustrating the quotient construction on a tensor product of two low-dimensional Poisson algebras would help verify that the induced n-Lie bracket satisfies the Poisson identity.
[Section introducing hypo-nilpotent ideals] Notation for the hypo-nilpotent ideal and its maximal property should be introduced once and used consistently; a brief comparison with ordinary nilpotency would clarify the new notion.

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We thank the referee for the positive assessment of our manuscript, the detailed summary of its contributions, and the recommendation for minor revision. We appreciate the recognition of the constructions from Jacobians and tensor products, the correspondence with Poisson algebras, and the structural results generalizing classical theorems.

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No significant circularity; constructions and theorems are self-contained

full rationale

The paper defines Poisson n-Lie algebras via explicit constructions from Jacobian n-Lie algebras (with stated conditions and a separate conjecture for the unital case), tensor-product quotients, and a reverse map to ordinary Poisson algebras. It then proves analogues of Engel/Lie theorems plus characterizations of solvability/nilpotency, hypo-nilpotent ideals, and generalized eigenspace ideals. All steps are presented as theorems or conjectures with explicit hypotheses; none reduce by definition or by self-citation to the input data. No fitted parameters, self-definitional loops, or load-bearing self-citations appear in the abstract or claimed results.

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Abstract-only review prevents extraction of specific free parameters, axioms, or invented entities; the work likely rests on standard definitions of n-Lie algebras, Poisson compatibility, and finite-dimensional assumptions from prior literature.

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