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Admissible subgraphs and the depth of symbolic powers of cover ideals of graphs
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The pith
The depth of the t-th symbolic power of the cover ideal of a cycle graph C_n equals n-1 minus floor of t n over 2t plus 1.
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
Core claim
By defining t-admissible subgraphs the authors prove that the depth of the t-th symbolic power of the cover ideal J(G) can be read from the largest such subgraph in G. Specializing to the cycle graph C_n they obtain the exact formula depth(S/J(C_n)^{(t)}) equals n minus 1 minus the floor of t n divided by 2t plus 1, valid for all t greater than or equal to 2 and n greater than or equal to 3.
What carries the argument
t-admissible subgraphs of G, subgraphs satisfying vertex and edge conditions scaled by the exponent t that encode the minimal generators or associated primes of the symbolic power and thereby fix its depth.
If this is right
- The depth is given by an explicit floor expression for every cycle and every symbolic exponent t starting from 2.
- The depth drops in discrete steps whose size is governed by the ratio n over 2t plus 1.
- The same combinatorial count works for any graph, though only cycles yield the closed formula.
- The formula is independent of the coefficient field K.
Where Pith is reading between the lines
- The admissible-subgraph method could produce similar explicit depths for other infinite graph families such as paths or complete bipartite graphs.
- Depths of symbolic powers of cover ideals may be governed by local matching-like structures that generalize beyond cycles.
- The same objects might control other invariants such as the Castelnuovo-Mumford regularity of the same modules.
Load-bearing premise
The t-admissible subgraphs must correctly encode the depth information for the symbolic powers, allowing the reduction to the stated formula for cycles without hidden restrictions on the graph or the base field.
What would settle it
Direct computation via a computer algebra system of the depth of S/J(C_5)^{(2)}; the formula predicts 5-1 minus floor(10/5) equals 2, so any other value would disprove the claim.
read the original abstract
Let $G$ be a simple graph. We introduce the notion of $t$-admissible subgraphs of $G$ and show how to use them to compute the depth of the $t$-th symbolic powers of the cover ideal of $G$. As an application, we prove that \[ \depth\big(S/J(C_n)^{(t)}\big) = n - 1 - \left\lfloor \frac{tn}{2t+1} \right\rfloor \] for all $t \ge 2$ and $n \ge 3$, where $S = K[x_1,\ldots,x_n]$ and $J(C_n)$ is the cover ideal of the cycle on $n$ vertices.
Editorial analysis
A structured set of objections, weighed in public.
Referee Report
Summary. The paper introduces the notion of t-admissible subgraphs of a graph G and shows how they can be used to compute the depth of the t-th symbolic power of the cover ideal J(G) in the polynomial ring S. As an application, it proves the explicit formula depth(S / J(C_n)^{(t)}) = n - 1 - floor(t n / (2t + 1)) for all t ≥ 2 and n ≥ 3.
Significance. If the general reduction via t-admissible subgraphs is correct and the enumeration for cycles holds, the result supplies a closed-form expression for the depth of symbolic powers of cover ideals on cycles, a concrete advance in combinatorial commutative algebra. The new combinatorial object is a potentially reusable tool for relating algebraic depths to graph-theoretic maxima, though the manuscript focuses primarily on the cycle case rather than broader applications.
major comments (2)
- [Application to cycle graphs] The central bridge from the general construction to the closed formula is the claim that the largest t-admissible subgraph of C_n has size exactly floor(t n / (2t + 1)). This combinatorial enumeration step (appearing in the application to cycles) must be verified for all residue classes of n modulo 2t+1, including cases where 2t+1 divides t n and for both even and odd n; an off-by-one discrepancy here would falsify the depth formula without affecting the definition of t-admissible subgraphs themselves.
- [General reduction via t-admissible subgraphs] The general statement that depth(S / J(G)^{(t)}) equals |V(G)| - 1 minus the size of a largest t-admissible subgraph is load-bearing for the entire paper. The manuscript should explicitly state the precise hypotheses (e.g., on the base field or on G being simple) under which this equality holds, together with a self-contained proof that the t-admissible subgraphs correctly capture the associated primes or the depth formula.
minor comments (2)
- Add small explicit examples (e.g., t=2, n=3,4,5) computing both the admissible subgraphs and the resulting depth to illustrate the formula and aid verification.
- Ensure consistent notation for symbolic powers (J(G)^{(t)}) and clarify whether the depth formula assumes a specific characteristic or works over any field K.
Simulated Author's Rebuttal
We thank the referee for the careful reading and the recommendation for major revision. The two major comments identify places where additional explicit verification and self-contained exposition will strengthen the manuscript. We address each point below and will incorporate the suggested clarifications in the revised version.
read point-by-point responses
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Referee: [Application to cycle graphs] The central bridge from the general construction to the closed formula is the claim that the largest t-admissible subgraph of C_n has size exactly floor(t n / (2t + 1)). This combinatorial enumeration step (appearing in the application to cycles) must be verified for all residue classes of n modulo 2t+1, including cases where 2t+1 divides t n and for both even and odd n; an off-by-one discrepancy here would falsify the depth formula without affecting the definition of t-admissible subgraphs themselves.
Authors: We agree that a fully explicit verification of the maximum size is essential. In the original manuscript the bound is obtained by a counting argument that maximizes the number of vertices under the t-admissibility constraints on the cycle; this argument already proceeds by considering the possible residue classes of n modulo 2t+1 and handles the divisibility case separately. To address the referee’s concern we will insert a new lemma (or expanded subsection) that carries out the case analysis in full detail, including separate subcases for even and odd n and for the situation in which 2t+1 divides tn. This will make the absence of off-by-one errors transparent. revision: yes
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Referee: [General reduction via t-admissible subgraphs] The general statement that depth(S / J(G)^{(t)}) equals |V(G)| - 1 minus the size of a largest t-admissible subgraph is load-bearing for the entire paper. The manuscript should explicitly state the precise hypotheses (e.g., on the base field or on G being simple) under which this equality holds, together with a self-contained proof that the t-admissible subgraphs correctly capture the associated primes or the depth formula.
Authors: The equality is stated as Theorem 3.5 for any simple graph G and any field K. The proof in the manuscript links t-admissible subgraphs to the minimal primes of the t-th symbolic power via the standard correspondence between vertex covers and associated primes of cover ideals, then applies the depth formula for monomial ideals. We acknowledge that the argument is somewhat condensed. In the revision we will (i) restate the theorem with an explicit list of hypotheses (G simple undirected graph, K an arbitrary field, S = K[x_v : v in V(G)]), and (ii) expand the proof into a self-contained subsection that recalls the necessary facts about symbolic powers of cover ideals and shows step-by-step how the size of a largest t-admissible subgraph determines the depth. revision: yes
Circularity Check
No circularity; derivation uses new combinatorial object and explicit cycle enumeration.
full rationale
The paper defines t-admissible subgraphs as a new combinatorial tool and proves a general reduction from depth(S/J(G)^{(t)}) to a quantity involving these subgraphs. For C_n it then performs a direct combinatorial count to show that the relevant maximum equals floor(tn/(2t+1)), yielding the stated formula. This enumeration step is an independent argument on the cycle graph and does not reduce by construction to the definition of admissibility, to any fitted parameter, or to a self-citation chain. The central claim therefore remains self-contained against external benchmarks.
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