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Adhesion-controlled sliding and the Stribeck curve in hydrophobic soft contacts
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The pith
For sufficiently smooth and adhesive hydrophobic surfaces, adhesion modifies the sliding mode itself, producing Stribeck curves unlike those from classical mixed-lubrication theory.
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
Core claim
Dry-friction data combined with adhesion-inclusive contact-area calculations establish a baseline. For the two sandblasted surfaces the measured Stribeck curves are described reasonably well by mean-field mixed-lubrication theory with a fitted velocity-independent effective interfacial shear stress. In contrast the smooth surface exhibits qualitatively different behavior attributed to an adhesion-controlled sliding mode involving macroscopic Schallamach-wave-like instabilities at low sliding speeds; these instabilities are progressively suppressed as sliding speed increases and forced wetting reduces direct solid-solid contact.
What carries the argument
Adhesion-controlled sliding mode involving macroscopic Schallamach-wave-like instabilities that change the sliding response beyond merely altering real contact area.
If this is right
- Stribeck curves for soft hydrophobic contacts cannot be understood from fluid flow and load sharing alone when surfaces are smooth and adhesive.
- Low-speed sliding on smooth surfaces occurs through unstable wave-like motion rather than steady sliding.
- Increasing sliding speed suppresses the instabilities by forcing lubricant into the interface and reducing solid-solid contact.
- Adhesion can persist and dominate even in the presence of a lubricant for hydrophobic material pairs.
- Mean-field mixed-lubrication models require extension to capture adhesion-induced changes in sliding mode for sufficiently smooth surfaces.
Where Pith is reading between the lines
- Surface roughness may be deliberately engineered in soft-contact applications to switch between adhesion-controlled and lubrication-controlled regimes.
- The same mechanism could operate in other soft hydrophobic systems such as skin, cartilage, or elastomeric seals where adhesion is known to persist under partial lubrication.
- Varying the degree of adhesion independently while keeping roughness fixed would test whether the wave-like instabilities are the direct cause of the altered Stribeck shape.
- Classical lubrication design rules may underestimate speed-dependent friction variations in highly smooth soft interfaces.
Load-bearing premise
The qualitatively different Stribeck behavior on the smooth surface is caused by adhesion-controlled sliding with wave-like instabilities rather than by unaccounted differences in surface chemistry or lubricant properties.
What would settle it
High-speed video of the smooth contact interface that either reveals or fails to reveal propagating detachment waves whose appearance correlates exactly with the low-speed rise in friction and whose disappearance coincides with the return toward classical lubrication behavior.
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read the original abstract
We present an experimental and theoretical study of dry and glycerol-lubricated sliding for polymethyl methacrylate (PMMA) cylinders with different surface roughness sliding on polydimethylsiloxane (PDMS) rubber. This system represents a hydrophobic soft contact, where adhesion may persist even in the presence of the lubricant and thereby modify both the real contact area and the sliding response. Dry-friction measurements, combined with contact-area calculations that include adhesion, provide a baseline for the lubricated study. For the two sandblasted surfaces, the measured Stribeck curves are described reasonably well by a mean-field mixed-lubrication theory with a fitted velocity-independent effective interfacial shear stress. In contrast, the smooth surface exhibits qualitatively different behavior. We attribute this to an adhesion-controlled sliding mode involving macroscopic Schallamach-wave-like instabilities at low sliding speeds, which are progressively suppressed as the sliding speed increases and forced wetting reduces direct solid-solid contact. The results show that, for soft hydrophobic contacts, the Stribeck curve cannot always be understood from classical fluid flow and load sharing alone. For sufficiently smooth and adhesive surfaces, adhesion changes not only the real contact area but also the sliding mode itself.
Editorial analysis
A structured set of objections, weighed in public.
Referee Report
Summary. The paper reports experimental Stribeck curves for dry and glycerol-lubricated sliding of PMMA cylinders (smooth and sandblasted) on PDMS, together with contact-area calculations that incorporate adhesion. For the two rough surfaces a mean-field mixed-lubrication model with one fitted, velocity-independent effective interfacial shear stress reproduces the measured curves; the smooth-surface curve is qualitatively different and is attributed to an adhesion-controlled sliding mode mediated by macroscopic Schallamach-wave-like instabilities that are progressively suppressed by forced wetting at higher speeds. The central claim is that, for sufficiently smooth and adhesive hydrophobic soft contacts, adhesion modifies not only the real contact area but the sliding mode itself.
Significance. If the attribution for the smooth surface holds, the work demonstrates that classical fluid-flow and load-sharing descriptions are insufficient for adhesive soft contacts and that adhesion can alter the fundamental sliding mechanism. The experimental data set and the explicit mean-field treatment for rough surfaces constitute a useful baseline for the field.
major comments (2)
- [Abstract] Abstract (and the corresponding discussion of the smooth-surface data): the central claim that the qualitatively different Stribeck curve arises from an adhesion-controlled sliding mode involving macroscopic Schallamach-wave-like instabilities rests on qualitative inference. No direct confirmation—imaging of propagating fronts, characteristic force signatures, wavelength measurements, or controls that exclude surface-chemistry or glycerol-specific differences between the smooth and sandblasted PMMA samples—is provided. This inference is load-bearing for the paper’s strongest claim.
- [Abstract] Abstract and rough-surface modeling section: the mean-field mixed-lubrication description for the sandblasted surfaces employs a velocity-independent effective interfacial shear stress that is fitted to the data. While the resulting agreement is reasonable, the physical origin and velocity independence of this parameter are not independently verified, so the match is partly by construction and weakens the contrast drawn with the smooth case.
minor comments (1)
- [Abstract] The abstract states that dry-friction measurements 'provide a baseline' but does not quantify how the adhesion-inclusive contact-area calculation is validated against the measured dry friction coefficients.
Simulated Author's Rebuttal
We thank the referee for the careful and constructive review of our manuscript. The comments raise valid points about the strength of evidence for our interpretation of the smooth-surface data and the assumptions in the rough-surface model. We address each major comment below and have revised the manuscript to improve transparency and acknowledge limitations where appropriate.
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Referee: [Abstract] Abstract (and the corresponding discussion of the smooth-surface data): the central claim that the qualitatively different Stribeck curve arises from an adhesion-controlled sliding mode involving macroscopic Schallamach-wave-like instabilities rests on qualitative inference. No direct confirmation—imaging of propagating fronts, characteristic force signatures, wavelength measurements, or controls that exclude surface-chemistry or glycerol-specific differences between the smooth and sandblasted PMMA samples—is provided. This inference is load-bearing for the paper’s strongest claim.
Authors: We agree that the attribution of the smooth-surface behavior to an adhesion-controlled sliding mode with Schallamach-wave-like instabilities is inferential rather than based on direct observation. The claim rests on the qualitative difference in the measured Stribeck curve, the inclusion of adhesion in contact-area calculations, and the progressive change with speed that aligns with forced wetting reducing solid-solid contact. Direct imaging, force signatures, or wavelength measurements were not performed in this work. We have revised the abstract and relevant discussion sections to present this mechanism as a consistent interpretation supported by the data and literature on similar systems, while explicitly noting the lack of direct confirmation and the absence of dedicated controls for possible surface-chemistry variations (though sandblasting primarily alters topography). This revision maintains the central message without overstating the evidence. revision: partial
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Referee: [Abstract] Abstract and rough-surface modeling section: the mean-field mixed-lubrication description for the sandblasted surfaces employs a velocity-independent effective interfacial shear stress that is fitted to the data. While the resulting agreement is reasonable, the physical origin and velocity independence of this parameter are not independently verified, so the match is partly by construction and weakens the contrast drawn with the smooth case.
Authors: The referee is correct that the effective interfacial shear stress is a single fitted, velocity-independent parameter chosen to reproduce the overall shape of the Stribeck curves for the rough surfaces within a mean-field mixed-lubrication framework. Its physical origin is presumed to reflect the average adhesive shear resistance at asperity contacts, but we did not conduct separate low-speed friction or shear tests to verify velocity independence independently. We have added text in the modeling section to state these assumptions explicitly and to note that the agreement is phenomenological. Nevertheless, the model still fails to describe the smooth-surface data, which supports the paper’s point that a classical load-sharing description is insufficient when adhesion alters the sliding mode itself. The contrast therefore remains informative even with the acknowledged limitations of the fitted parameter. revision: yes
Circularity Check
Fitted shear stress parameter allows descriptive agreement for rough surfaces by construction; smooth-surface claim remains observational
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fitted input called prediction
[Abstract]
"For the two sandblasted surfaces, the measured Stribeck curves are described reasonably well by a mean-field mixed-lubrication theory with a fitted velocity-independent effective interfacial shear stress."
The effective interfacial shear stress is adjusted as a free parameter to the experimental Stribeck data; the resulting 'description' of the curves therefore follows by construction from the fit rather than constituting an independent test or prediction of the mixed-lubrication theory.
full rationale
The paper fits a single velocity-independent effective interfacial shear stress to match the Stribeck data on sandblasted (rough) PMMA surfaces using a mean-field mixed-lubrication model, producing reasonable agreement that is partly tautological to the fit. The central claim—that adhesion alters the sliding mode itself on smooth surfaces via Schallamach-like instabilities—is presented as a qualitative contrast without a corresponding fitted model or derivation that reduces to the input data. No self-definitional equations, load-bearing self-citations, or uniqueness theorems are invoked in the provided text. The overall derivation chain for the strongest claim is therefore observational and independent of the fitted rough-surface description, warranting only a moderate circularity score.
Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger
free parameters (1)
- velocity-independent effective interfacial shear stress
axioms (1)
- domain assumption Mean-field mixed-lubrication theory with load sharing between asperity contact and fluid film applies to the rough surfaces
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