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I see artifacts: ICA-based EEG artifact removal does not improve deep network decoding across three BCI tasks
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The pith
ICA-based artifact removal in EEG signals does not consistently improve deep network decoding across BCI tasks
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
Core claim
Component-rejected EEG data produced by Infomax or AMICA combined with ICLabel or MARA does not deliver consistently higher decoding accuracy in CNN or LSTM models than the same data without any rejection, across motor imagery, long-term memory, and visual memory tasks.
What carries the argument
A pipeline matrix that applies ICA decomposition followed by optional component rejection before feeding the signals into neural network classifiers, then compares accuracy with and without the rejection step.
If this is right
- Deep networks can achieve comparable decoding performance on raw EEG without explicit ICA-based cleaning.
- The computational overhead of running ICA may not be justified when the goal is only to improve classification accuracy.
- Within-participant cross-validation results generalize similarly whether or not artifact rejection is applied.
Where Pith is reading between the lines
- In practice, BCI developers could skip ICA preprocessing to reduce latency in real-time systems.
- Attention may shift toward other preprocessing choices or architecture tweaks that more reliably affect performance.
- The finding raises the question of whether ICA still adds value when combined with newer model types or larger datasets.
Load-bearing premise
The three chosen datasets, two ICA algorithms, three rejection strategies, and three network architectures are representative of typical BCI decoding scenarios.
What would settle it
A follow-up experiment on new EEG datasets that finds statistically significant and consistent accuracy gains from the same ICA rejection pipelines would falsify the central claim.
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In this paper, we conduct a detailed investigation on the effect of independent component (IC)-based noise rejection methods in neural network classifier-based decoding of electroencephalography (EEG) data in different task datasets. We apply a pipeline matrix of two popular different independent component (IC) decomposition methods (Infomax and Adaptive Mixture Independent Component Analysis (AMICA)) with three different component rejection strategies (none, ICLabel, and multiple artifact rejection algorithm [MARA]) on three different EEG datasets (motor imagery, long-term memory formation, and visual memory). We cross-validate processed data from each pipeline with three architectures commonly used for EEG classification (two convolutional neural networks and one long short-term memory-based model. We compare decoding performances on within-participant and within-dataset levels.Our results show that the benefit from using IC-based noise rejection for decoding analyses is at best minor, as component-rejected data did not show consistently better performance than data without rejections; especially given the significant computational resources required for independent component analysis (ICA) computations.
Editorial analysis
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Referee Report
Summary. The paper conducts a systematic empirical evaluation of ICA-based artifact removal for deep neural network-based EEG decoding. It tests two ICA decomposition methods (Infomax and AMICA), three rejection strategies (none, ICLabel, MARA), across three datasets (motor imagery, long-term memory formation, visual memory), and three network architectures (two CNNs and one LSTM). Using within-participant and within-dataset cross-validation, the central finding is that data with component rejection does not consistently outperform data without rejection, indicating that the benefit of IC-based noise rejection is at best minor, particularly in light of the computational demands of ICA.
Significance. This negative result, if substantiated, is significant for the BCI and EEG machine learning community as it challenges the routine application of ICA preprocessing in deep learning pipelines for EEG classification. The strength lies in the broad experimental matrix covering multiple methods, datasets, and models, providing a more robust test than single-dataset studies. The authors deserve credit for the comprehensive design, the use of held-out cross-validation, and the focus on practical implications regarding computational resources. This could encourage reevaluation of preprocessing steps in resource-constrained BCI applications.
major comments (1)
- Results section: The claim that component-rejected data 'did not show consistently better performance' and that the benefit is 'at best minor' is central but unsupported by reported effect sizes, mean accuracy deltas, standard deviations, or statistical tests (e.g., paired t-tests or Wilcoxon tests across pipelines). Without these in tables or text for each dataset-architecture combination, the strength of the negative conclusion cannot be fully assessed.
Simulated Author's Rebuttal
We thank the referee for their constructive review and positive assessment of the manuscript's scope and design. We agree that the central negative finding requires stronger quantitative backing and will revise the Results section to include the requested metrics and tests.
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Referee: Results section: The claim that component-rejected data 'did not show consistently better performance' and that the benefit is 'at best minor' is central but unsupported by reported effect sizes, mean accuracy deltas, standard deviations, or statistical tests (e.g., paired t-tests or Wilcoxon tests across pipelines). Without these in tables or text for each dataset-architecture combination, the strength of the negative conclusion cannot be fully assessed.
Authors: We accept this criticism. In the revised manuscript we will add a table (main text or supplementary) that reports, for every dataset–architecture pair, the mean accuracy and standard deviation under each preprocessing pipeline (none, ICLabel, MARA) for both Infomax and AMICA decompositions. We will also compute and report mean accuracy deltas relative to the no-rejection baseline and will apply paired non-parametric tests (Wilcoxon signed-rank) across participants or folds, together with effect-size measures (e.g., rank-biserial correlation). These additions will allow readers to evaluate both the magnitude and statistical reliability of any observed differences. revision: yes
Circularity Check
No significant circularity: purely empirical comparison
full rationale
The paper reports an empirical matrix of ICA pipelines (Infomax/AMICA × none/ICLabel/MARA) applied to three EEG datasets, decoded by three neural architectures, with performance measured via within-participant and within-dataset cross-validation. No derivations, equations, fitted parameters renamed as predictions, or self-citation chains appear in the abstract or described methods. The central negative result (component-rejected data not consistently superior) follows directly from comparing measured accuracies on held-out folds; it does not reduce to any input by construction. This is a standard, self-contained empirical study with no load-bearing self-referential steps.
Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger
axioms (2)
- domain assumption Independent components recovered by Infomax and AMICA correspond to physiologically meaningful sources that can be labeled as artifacts.
- domain assumption Within-participant cross-validation on the chosen datasets provides a fair estimate of decoding performance.
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Results 3.1. Component Rejections In the BCI Competition IV-2A dataset, an average of 0.1 artifact components were rejected from AMICA component data rejected with ICLabel, while an average of 4.9 artifacts components were rejected through MARA. In data processed with RunICA, an average of 0.1 components were rejected through ICLabel, and 5.1 through MARA...
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