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Inference Time Causal Probing in LLMs
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The pith
HDMI steers hidden states in LLMs with a margin objective to deliver more reliable causal interventions than probe-based methods.
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Core claim
The paper establishes that HDMI, by directly optimizing a margin objective on hidden states to favor target outputs over source outputs via the LLM's own predictive distribution, produces interventions with higher reliability—defined as the harmonic mean of completeness and selectivity—than methods that rely on trained probe classifiers, as demonstrated on the LGD agreement corpus and CausalGym benchmark for Meta-Llama-3-8B-Instruct and Pythia-70M; a lookahead extension further enables controlled text editing while preserving fluency.
What carries the argument
Hidden-state Driven Margin Intervention (HDMI): a probe-free gradient method that applies a margin loss directly to hidden states using the model's native output probabilities to steer a targeted property.
Load-bearing premise
That directly optimizing a margin objective on hidden states using the model's native output will change the targeted property as intended while preserving selectivity and fluency without introducing new misalignments.
What would settle it
Running HDMI on the LGD agreement corpus or CausalGym benchmark for Meta-Llama-3-8B-Instruct or Pythia-70M and observing that its harmonic mean of completeness and selectivity is not higher than the scores of prior probe-based methods.
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Causal probing methods aim to test and control how internal representations influence the behavior of generative models. In causal probing, an intervention modifies hidden states so that a property takes on a different value. Most existing approaches define such interventions by training an auxiliary probe classifier, which ties the method to a specific task or model and risks misalignment with the model's predictive geometry. We propose Hidden-state Driven Margin Intervention (HDMI), a probe-free, gradient-based technique that directly steers hidden states using the model's native output. HDMI applies a margin objective that increases the probability of a target continuation while decreasing that of the source, without relying on probe classifiers. We further introduce a lookahead variant (LA-HDMI) for text editing that backpropagates through the softmax embeddings, modifying the current hidden state so that the likelihood of user-specified tokens increases in next token generations while preserving fluency. To evaluate interventions, we measure completeness (whether the targeted property changes as intended) and selectivity (whether unrelated properties are preserved), and report their harmonic mean as an overall measure of reliability. HDMI consistently achieves higher reliability than prior methods on the LGD agreement corpus and the CausalGym benchmark, across Meta-Llama-3-8B-Instruct, and Pythia-70M.
Editorial analysis
A structured set of objections, weighed in public.
Referee Report
Summary. The paper introduces Hidden-state Driven Margin Intervention (HDMI), a probe-free causal probing technique for LLMs that directly optimizes a margin objective on the model's native next-token probabilities to modify hidden states, increasing the likelihood of target continuations while decreasing source ones. A lookahead variant (LA-HDMI) is proposed for text editing by backpropagating through softmax embeddings. Interventions are evaluated via completeness (intended property change) and selectivity (preservation of unrelated properties), with reliability as their harmonic mean. The central empirical claim is that HDMI and LA-HDMI achieve higher reliability than prior probe-based methods on the LGD agreement corpus and CausalGym benchmark, demonstrated across Meta-Llama-3-8B-Instruct and Pythia-70M.
Significance. If the evaluation metrics are shown to be independent of the optimization objective, the probe-free design using native model outputs would represent a meaningful advance in causal intervention methods, reducing reliance on auxiliary classifiers that may misalign with the model's geometry. The approach could enable more generalizable control over internal representations while preserving fluency, with potential implications for interpretability and editing in generative models. The use of standard benchmarks and multiple model scales is a positive aspect for comparability.
major comments (2)
- [Evaluation section] Evaluation section (likely §4 or §5): The abstract and method description define completeness as whether the targeted property changes as intended, but provide no explicit formula or protocol for measuring it independently of the margin objective's probability shifts. If completeness is scored using the same next-token probability changes optimized by HDMI (or generations resulting directly from the intervention), the reliability metric becomes circular by construction, as successful optimization will register high completeness tautologically. This undermines the claim of superior reliability over probe-based baselines, which use separate classifiers for evaluation. Please provide the precise definition of completeness (e.g., via equation or pseudocode) and confirm it relies on an auxiliary, non-optimized measure such as held-out behavioral tests or independent probes.
- [§3 (Method)] §3 (Method) and experiments: The weakest assumption—that direct margin optimization on hidden states alters the intended causal property without introducing new misalignments—is not sufficiently tested. The paper should include ablations or controls showing that selectivity on unrelated properties is preserved beyond superficial checks, and that downstream behavior changes are attributable to the targeted property rather than side effects in representation space. Without this, the higher reliability on LGD and CausalGym may not generalize.
minor comments (2)
- [Abstract] Abstract: The phrasing 'across Meta-Llama-3-8B-Instruct, and Pythia-70M' contains a grammatical error (extra comma); correct to 'across Meta-Llama-3-8B-Instruct and Pythia-70M'.
- [Experiments] The manuscript should include quantitative results, error bars, statistical significance tests, and full experimental protocol details (e.g., number of runs, hyperparameter choices) in the main text or appendix to support the reliability claims, as these are absent from the abstract.
Simulated Author's Rebuttal
Thank you for the constructive feedback on our manuscript. We address each major comment below, clarifying the evaluation protocol and committing to additional empirical controls where appropriate.
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Referee: [Evaluation section] Evaluation section (likely §4 or §5): The abstract and method description define completeness as whether the targeted property changes as intended, but provide no explicit formula or protocol for measuring it independently of the margin objective's probability shifts. If completeness is scored using the same next-token probability changes optimized by HDMI (or generations resulting directly from the intervention), the reliability metric becomes circular by construction, as successful optimization will register high completeness tautologically. This undermines the claim of superior reliability over probe-based baselines, which use separate classifiers for evaluation. Please provide the precise definition of completeness (e.g., via equation or pseudocode) and confirm it relies on an auxiliary, non-optimized measure such as held-out behavioral tests or independent probe
Authors: We appreciate the referee's concern regarding potential circularity. Completeness is measured via the benchmark-specific protocols on held-out test sets: for LGD, this is the change in agreement label on unseen examples (independent of the exact source/target token probabilities optimized by the margin loss); for CausalGym, it follows the benchmark's predefined behavioral tests for the target property. The margin objective only shapes the immediate next-token distribution during intervention, while completeness evaluates the resulting property shift through these separate metrics. We will add an explicit equation and pseudocode in the revised §4 to formalize this distinction and confirm reliance on auxiliary, non-optimized measures. revision: yes
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Referee: [§3 (Method)] §3 (Method) and experiments: The weakest assumption—that direct margin optimization on hidden states alters the intended causal property without introducing new misalignments—is not sufficiently tested. The paper should include ablations or controls showing that selectivity on unrelated properties is preserved beyond superficial checks, and that downstream behavior changes are attributable to the targeted property rather than side effects in representation space. Without this, the higher reliability on LGD and CausalGym may not generalize.
Authors: We agree that stronger controls would better substantiate the core assumption. The current selectivity results are computed on the benchmarks' unrelated properties, but we will add ablations in the revision: (1) measuring preservation of additional unrelated attributes via auxiliary classifiers, (2) intervening on non-causal dimensions as a control, and (3) verifying that downstream changes track the targeted property rather than diffuse representation shifts. These will be reported alongside the existing reliability numbers to address generalizability. revision: yes
Circularity Check
No significant circularity; method and evaluation defined independently
full rationale
The HDMI intervention is defined directly via a margin objective on the model's native next-token probabilities, without reference to auxiliary probes or fitted parameters from the evaluation metrics. Completeness and selectivity are presented as separate evaluation criteria whose harmonic mean yields reliability; nothing in the abstract or described method reduces completeness to the optimized probability shifts by construction or renames the optimization success as an independent prediction. The superiority claim on LGD and CausalGym is therefore not forced by self-definition or self-citation chains. This is the normal case of a self-contained empirical method.
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