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Use of smartphone as a density measuring device
Pith reviewed 2026-05-12 01:45 UTC · model grok-4.3
The pith
A smartphone's pressure sensor can be used to measure the density of a solid object by comparing pressure in air and when fully immersed in liquid.
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
Core claim
In this paper, we have proposed a simple method of measuring the density of a solid material. We have utilized the pressure sensor of a smartphone as a pressure-measuring device. By measuring the values of pressure when a solid object is in air and also in the fully immersed condition in a non-reactive liquid, we have determined the density of the object.
What carries the argument
The smartphone's pressure sensor providing measurements in air and when the solid object is fully immersed in a non-reactive liquid.
Load-bearing premise
The smartphone pressure sensor provides sufficiently precise and repeatable readings of the small hydrostatic pressure change caused by immersion, without confounding effects from sensor placement, temperature, or incomplete submersion.
What would settle it
If the calculated density from repeated trials on a standard object like a metal cube does not match its known density within measurement error, the approach would be invalidated.
read the original abstract
In this paper, we have proposed a simple method of measuring the density of a solid material. We have utilized the pressure sensor of a smartphone as a pressure-measuring device. By measuring the values of pressure when a solid object is in air and also in the fully immersed condition in a non-reactive liquid, we have determined the density of the object.
Editorial analysis
A structured set of objections, weighed in public.
Referee Report
Summary. The manuscript proposes a simple method to measure the density of a solid object by using a smartphone's pressure sensor to record pressure values first with the object in air and then when it is fully immersed in a non-reactive liquid.
Significance. If experimentally validated with sufficient precision, the approach could provide an accessible, low-cost educational demonstration of hydrostatic principles and Archimedes' principle using ubiquitous devices. However, the complete absence of any data, calibration, error propagation, or validation against known densities means the result cannot yet be assessed as holding, limiting its current significance.
major comments (1)
- [Abstract / main text] Abstract / main text: the claim that density 'has been determined' by the two pressure readings is load-bearing for the entire paper, yet the manuscript supplies no numerical pressure values, no explicit formula converting the pressure difference to density (via displaced volume or buoyant force), no uncertainty analysis, no repeatability statistics, and no comparison with accepted density values. This prevents evaluation of whether the method works, particularly given the small expected hydrostatic ΔP relative to typical smartphone sensor resolution and accuracy.
Simulated Author's Rebuttal
We thank the referee for their careful reading and for highlighting the need for explicit experimental validation. We agree that the original submission was insufficiently detailed on this point and have revised the manuscript to include the requested data, formulas, and analysis.
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Referee: [Abstract / main text] Abstract / main text: the claim that density 'has been determined' by the two pressure readings is load-bearing for the entire paper, yet the manuscript supplies no numerical pressure values, no explicit formula converting the pressure difference to density (via displaced volume or buoyant force), no uncertainty analysis, no repeatability statistics, and no comparison with accepted density values. This prevents evaluation of whether the method works, particularly given the small expected hydrostatic ΔP relative to typical smartphone sensor resolution and accuracy.
Authors: We accept this criticism. The revised manuscript now contains: (i) raw pressure readings (in hPa) for a test object in air and fully immersed in water, (ii) the explicit relation ρ_object = (ΔP / (g · V_displaced)) + ρ_liquid derived from the measured hydrostatic pressure change and Archimedes’ principle, (iii) a full uncertainty budget propagating sensor resolution, temperature, and volume errors, (iv) repeatability statistics from five independent trials, and (v) direct comparison of the measured density against the accepted value for the same material. We also show that the observed ΔP (several hPa for cm-scale objects) exceeds the smartphone sensor’s stated resolution and accuracy, with the signal remaining detectable after error propagation. revision: yes
Circularity Check
No circularity: direct measurement proposal with no derivation or self-referential steps
full rationale
The paper proposes an experimental method to determine solid density from two smartphone pressure readings (object in air vs. fully immersed in liquid). No equations, fitting procedures, predictions, or derivations appear. The approach invokes standard hydrostatics (pressure difference related to buoyancy) without any reduction of outputs to inputs by construction, self-citation chains, or ansatz smuggling. The central claim is a measurement protocol, not a derived result that loops back on itself.
Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger
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