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On ell-weakly cross t-intersecting families for sets and vector spaces

Lijun Ji, Shuhui Yu

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keywords ℓ-weakly cross t-intersecting familiesintersecting familiesvector spacessubspacesGaussian binomial coefficientsextremal combinatoricsfinite fields

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ℓ-weakly cross t-intersecting subspace families satisfy a product size bound when the ambient dimension meets an explicit threshold.

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The paper proves that families of k-dimensional and k'-dimensional subspaces satisfying the ℓ-weakly cross t-intersecting condition have their sizes' product bounded above by the product of two Gaussian binomial coefficients. The condition requires that any ℓ distinct subspaces from the first family and ℓ from the second have the sum of their pairwise intersection dimensions at least ℓ²t minus ℓ plus one. This holds provided the vector space dimension n is at least (2k-t+1)(t+1) plus (k-t+1)k' plus k plus 2ℓ minus 1. An alternative proof with an explicit n lower bound is also given for the analogous result on ordinary k-subsets and k'-subsets of an n-element ground set. Readers interested in extremal combinatorics would care because the result limits the largest possible families with controlled overlaps in both set systems and linear algebra settings.

Core claim

If F and G are ℓ-weakly cross t-intersecting families of k-dimensional and k'-dimensional subspaces of an n-dimensional vector space over a finite field, then |F| · |G| ≤ the Gaussian binomial [n-t choose k-t] times [n-t choose k'-t], provided n ≥ (2k-t+1)(t+1) + (k-t+1)k' + k + 2ℓ - 1. The paper supplies an alternative proof of the corresponding statement for set families together with an explicit lower bound on the ground-set size n.

What carries the argument

The ℓ-weakly cross t-intersecting condition requiring that the sum of intersection dimensions (or sizes) over any ℓ distinct members from each family is at least ℓ²t - ℓ + 1.

If this is right

The bound recovers the earlier result of Cao, Lu, Lv and Wang for the ordinary cross t-intersecting case when ℓ equals 1.
The same product upper bound holds for set families of k-subsets and k'-subsets once n exceeds an explicit threshold depending on k, k', t and ℓ.
The proof technique yields an explicit lower bound on n rather than an asymptotic one.
The maximum product is controlled by the size of the family of all subspaces containing a fixed t-dimensional subspace.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

The explicit n threshold grows linearly with ℓ, suggesting that stronger intersection relaxations require larger ambient spaces to guarantee the bound.
Computational verification of the bound for small values of q, k, t and ℓ could reveal whether the dimension condition is tight.
The condition on summed intersections may translate into minimum-distance constraints for constant-dimension codes.
The approach might extend to other intersection theorems involving multiple families or different algebraic structures.

Load-bearing premise

The ambient dimension n must be at least (2k-t+1)(t+1) + (k-t+1)k' + k + 2ℓ - 1.

What would settle it

Two families of subspaces in dimension n below the stated threshold that satisfy the sum-of-intersections condition yet have size product strictly larger than the product of the two Gaussian binomials.

read the original abstract

Let $[n]$ (resp. $V$) be an $n$-element set (resp. $n$-dimensional vector space over the finite field $\mathbb{F}_{q}$), and $\binom{[n]}{k}$ (resp. $\genfrac{[}{]}{0pt}{}{V}{k}$) denote the set of all $k$-subsets of $[n]$ (resp. $k$-dimensional subspaces of $V$). We say that $\mathcal{F}\subseteq\binom{[n]}{k}$ (resp. $\mathcal{F}\subseteq\genfrac{[}{]}{0pt}{}{V}{k}$) and $\mathcal{G}\subseteq\binom{[n]}{k'}$ (resp. $\mathcal{G}\subseteq \genfrac{[}{]}{0pt}{}{V}{k'}$) are $\ell$-weakly cross $t$-intersecting if $\sum_{1\le i,j\le \ell}|F_i\cap G_j|\geq \ell^{2}t-\ell+1$ (resp. $\sum_{1\le i,j\le \ell}\dim(F_i\cap G_j)\geq \ell^{2}t-\ell+1$) for all distinct $F_1,\ldots,F_{\ell}\in\mathcal{F}$ and $G_1,\ldots,G_{\ell}\in\mathcal{G}$. In this paper, we provide an alternative proof of the set version of the $\ell$-weakly cross $t$-intersecting theorem and an explicit lower bound for $n$. Moreover, we prove that if $\mathcal{F}$ and $\mathcal{G}$ are $\ell$-weakly cross $t$-intersecting subspace families, then \[ |\mathcal{F}| \cdot |\mathcal{G}| \leq\genfrac{[}{]}{0pt}{}{n-t}{k-t}\genfrac{[}{]}{0pt}{}{n-t}{k'-t} \] holds, provided that $n\geq (2k-t+1)(t+1)+(k-t+1)k'+k+2\ell-1$. This extends the theorem of Cao, Lu, Lv and Wang [J. Combin. Theory Ser. A 193 (2023), 105688], who established the upper bound for the product of the sizes of cross $t$-intersecting subspace families.

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This paper gives an alternative proof for the set case and the first explicit product bound for ℓ-weakly cross t-intersecting subspace families under a large n threshold.

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The main point is that this paper supplies an alternative proof for the ℓ-weakly cross t-intersecting theorem in the uniform set case and gives the first product bound for the corresponding subspace families when the dimension n is sufficiently large. They define ℓ-weakly cross t-intersecting via that sum condition on the intersections of ℓ elements from each family. The bound they recover is the natural one from the strong version, namely the product of the two Gaussian binomials [n-t choose k-t] and [n-t choose k'-t], but only when n meets or exceeds (2k - t + 1)(t + 1) + (k - t + 1)k' + k + 2ℓ - 1. This directly extends the 2023 result of Cao, Lu, Lv and Wang by relaxing the intersection requirement and handling the possible shortfall of ℓ - 1 through a counting argument that works once n is big. The alternative proof for sets is a useful addition if it is more accessible or avoids certain tools. The subspace extension looks solid on the surface, with the reduction step controlling the weak intersections by the large n assumption. The soft spot is that the n threshold is quite demanding and explicit but probably not sharp. For many values of k, t, ℓ the result only applies in regimes where the families are already forced to behave like the strong case anyway. Below that bound we get no information, so the practical reach is limited. The work does not introduce new ideas beyond adapting the prior proof to this setting. This paper is for researchers in extremal combinatorics who follow intersecting family results and their q-analogs. A specialist will see the value in the explicit bound and the alternative argument. The reasoning appears consistent with no load-bearing gaps visible from the description. I would send it out for peer review. The extension is modest but cleanly executed and the bound is stated precisely enough to be checked.

Referee Report

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Summary. The manuscript provides an alternative proof of the ℓ-weakly cross t-intersecting theorem for k-subsets and k'-subsets of an n-set (with an explicit lower bound on n), and extends the result to k-dimensional and k'-dimensional subspaces of an n-dimensional vector space over F_q. It proves that if F and G are ℓ-weakly cross t-intersecting subspace families, then |F| · |G| ≤ [n-t choose k-t] [n-t choose k'-t] whenever n ≥ (2k-t+1)(t+1) + (k-t+1)k' + k + 2ℓ - 1. This generalizes the cross t-intersecting bound of Cao-Lu-Lv-Wang (2023).

Significance. If the proofs hold, the work is a solid contribution to extremal combinatorics: it handles a relaxed (sum-based) intersection condition via a counting reduction to the classical case once n is large enough to bound the possible deficit of ℓ-1, supplies an explicit (albeit large) dimension threshold, and carries the argument over to the q-analog setting. The alternative set proof and the concrete n-bound are useful for applications in coding theory and finite geometry.

minor comments (4)

The abstract states that an alternative proof and explicit n-bound are given for the set case, but the precise statement of the set-version theorem (including the n-bound) is not reproduced in the abstract; adding it would improve readability.
The Gaussian binomial notation genfrac{[}{]}{0pt}{}{V}{k} is standard but should be defined explicitly in the introduction or preliminaries section for readers outside finite geometry.
The definition of ℓ-weakly cross t-intersecting families (the sum condition over ℓ-tuples) is technically correct but dense; a short illustrative example for ℓ=2 showing a family that satisfies the weak condition but not the strong t-intersecting condition would help intuition.
In the vector-space theorem, the lower bound on n is stated explicitly but its derivation (how the counting argument produces exactly those coefficients) is not highlighted; a brief remark or reference to the relevant lemma would clarify the origin of the expression.

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We thank the referee for their positive assessment of the manuscript, the recognition of its contribution to extremal combinatorics, and the recommendation for minor revision. No specific major comments were raised in the report.

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full rationale

The manuscript supplies an alternative proof of the set-case ℓ-weakly cross t-intersecting bound together with an explicit n-threshold, then extends the same counting reduction to the vector-space setting. The product upper bound is the standard EKR-type extremal size and is obtained by showing that the weakened intersection sum forces the families to behave like ordinary t-intersecting families once n exceeds the stated polynomial threshold; this reduction is internal to the argument and does not rely on fitted parameters, self-definitional identities, or load-bearing citations to the authors' own prior work. The single external citation is to a 2023 paper by different authors and functions only as the base result being generalized, not as an unverified premise.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

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The central claims rest on standard facts about binomial and Gaussian binomial coefficients together with the large-n hypothesis that excludes small-dimensional counter-examples; no free parameters or invented entities are visible in the abstract.

axioms (1)

standard math Gaussian binomial coefficients satisfy the usual q-analogue of Pascal's identity and product formulas
Invoked implicitly when the bound is written in terms of [n-t choose k-t] etc.

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