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Note on a magic rectangle set on dihedral group
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The pith
Magic rectangle sets exist for every dihedral group of order mnk when m and n are even.
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
Core claim
We prove that MRS_Γ(m,n;k) exists for every dihedral group Γ of order mnk, provided that m and n are even. As a consequence, we obtain broad existence results for magic rectangles and magic squares over dihedral groups.
What carries the argument
The Γ-magic rectangle set MRS_Γ(m,n;k), a collection of k m×n arrays with all distinct elements from Γ where rows can be ordered to multiply to a fixed ρ and columns to a fixed σ.
If this is right
- Magic rectangles exist over dihedral groups whenever the dimensions m and n are even.
- Magic squares exist over dihedral groups for even side lengths via the rectangle construction.
- The existence holds for every dihedral group of the given order mnk.
- The sets achieve constant products using only reordering despite the group's non-commutativity.
Where Pith is reading between the lines
- The pairing technique for handling non-commutativity might adapt to other non-abelian groups with similar involution structures.
- These sets could serve as building blocks for larger designs in algebraic combinatorics involving symmetries.
- Explicit small-order constructions for m=2, n=2 would allow direct verification of the base case in the proof.
Load-bearing premise
The construction requires m and n even so that elements can be paired and ordered to produce constant products despite the non-commutative relations in the dihedral group.
What would settle it
A concrete counterexample: a dihedral group of order mnk with even m and n for which no such collection of k arrays exists with the required row and column product properties under any reordering.
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read the original abstract
Let $\Gamma$ be a group of order $mnk$ and $MRS_{\Gamma}(m,n;k)=(a_{i,j}^s)_{m\times n}$ be a collection of $k$ arrays $m\times n$ whose entries are all distinct elements of $\Gamma$. If there exist elements $\rho,\sigma\in\Gamma$ such that for every row $i$, there exists an ordering of elements such that $$ a_{i,j_1}^s a_{i,j_2}^s \dots a_{i,j_{n-1}}^s a_{i,j_n}^s= \rho $$ and for every column $j$ there exists an ordering of elements such that $$ a_{i_1,j}^s a_{i_2,j}^s \dots a_{i_{m-1},j}^s a_{i_m,j}^s = \sigma, $$ then $MRS_{\Gamma}(m,n;k)$ is called a \emph{$\Gamma$-magic rectangle set}. We investigate magic rectangle sets over dihedral groups and prove that $\mathrm{MRS}_{\Gamma}(m,n;k)$ exists for every dihedral group $\Gamma$ of order $mnk$, provided that $m$ and $n$ are even. As a consequence, we obtain broad existence results for magic rectangles and magic squares over dihedral groups.
Editorial analysis
A structured set of objections, weighed in public.
Referee Report
Summary. The manuscript defines a Γ-magic rectangle set MRS_Γ(m,n;k) as a collection of k distinct m×n arrays whose entries partition a group Γ of order mnk, such that every row admits an ordering with constant product ρ and every column admits an ordering with constant product σ. It proves that such a set exists for every dihedral group Γ of order mnk whenever m and n are even, and deduces corresponding existence statements for magic rectangles and magic squares over dihedral groups.
Significance. If the explicit construction is correct, the result supplies the first broad existence theorem for these row-column product designs in a non-abelian family, using only the standard dihedral presentation and the evenness hypothesis to arrange pairings that cancel non-commuting generators. The argument is direct and parameter-free, resting solely on group axioms, which makes the existence statements falsifiable by direct checking on small instances.
major comments (1)
- [Main construction / proof of existence] The central existence proof (presumably Theorem 1 or the main construction) relies on an ordering argument that cancels the action of the reflection generator across rows and columns; the manuscript must exhibit the explicit pairing and ordering for at least one non-trivial case (e.g., m=n=4, k=2) so that the constant-product claim can be verified against the dihedral relations rs=sr^{-1}.
minor comments (2)
- [Definition of MRS_Γ(m,n;k)] In the definition, the index s on a_{i,j}^s should be clarified to run explicitly from 1 to k; the current notation leaves open whether the k arrays are indexed or merely labeled.
- [Consequences paragraph] The consequence statements for magic rectangles and squares are stated only qualitatively; a short corollary paragraph giving the precise parameter ranges (e.g., when k=1 or m=n) would make the applications immediate.
Simulated Author's Rebuttal
We thank the referee for the positive evaluation and the constructive request for an explicit small-case verification. We agree that displaying the arrays, pairings, and product computations for a concrete instance will make the ordering argument easier to check against the dihedral relation rs = s r^{-1}. We will add this material to the revised manuscript.
read point-by-point responses
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Referee: [Main construction / proof of existence] The central existence proof (presumably Theorem 1 or the main construction) relies on an ordering argument that cancels the action of the reflection generator across rows and columns; the manuscript must exhibit the explicit pairing and ordering for at least one non-trivial case (e.g., m=n=4, k=2) so that the constant-product claim can be verified against the dihedral relations rs=sr^{-1}.
Authors: We thank the referee for highlighting this point. The general construction in Theorem 1 is deliberately parameter-free and uses only the standard dihedral presentation together with the evenness of m and n to produce the required pairings. Nevertheless, we accept that an explicit worked example will allow direct verification. In the revised version we will insert a new example (placed immediately after the statement of Theorem 1) that gives the complete 4×4 arrays for k=2, lists the explicit row and column orderings, and computes the products step-by-step, invoking rs = s r^{-1} at each cancellation. This addition will occupy roughly one page and will not alter the existing proof. revision: yes
Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger
axioms (1)
- standard math Dihedral group satisfies the standard presentation with rotation r of order n and reflection s of order 2 obeying s r s = r^{-1}.
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