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arxiv: 2605.27512 · v1 · pith:ZE23AL5Pnew · submitted 2026-05-26 · ✦ hep-th · cond-mat.stat-mech· nlin.CD· quant-ph

Many-Body Quantum Chaos At All Time Scales

Antonio M. Garc\'ia-Garc\'ia , Lucas S\'a , Jacobus J. M. Verbaarschot , Jie-Ping Zheng This is my paper

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keywords many-body quantum chaosSachdev-Ye-Kitaev modelout-of-time-order correlatorsGreen's functionsscramblon formalismrandom matrix theorylate-time dynamicsHeisenberg time
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Analytical expressions for Green's and OTOC functions cover all time scales in the four-body SYK model, showing late-time deviations from ergodicity.

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This paper analyzes the Green's function and out-of-time-order correlation functions in the four-body N-Majorana Sachdev-Ye-Kitaev model, a canonical example of many-body quantum chaos. It merges the scramblon formalism with random-matrix-theory methods to derive closed analytical forms valid from early exponential growth through decay and into times that grow exponentially with N. For system sizes where N is congruent to 2 or 6 modulo 8, both functions display a dip-ramp-plateau shape at these late times that departs from standard ergodic expectations because of correlations between matrix elements and eigenvalues that remain local in energy, even past the Heisenberg time. A reader would care because these functions quantify how quantum information spreads and then settles in chaotic many-body systems, with direct relevance to thermalization and information recovery.

Core claim

By combining the scramblon formalism and random-matrix-theory techniques, we obtain analytical expressions for these functions at all times. The early exponential growth of the OTOC is followed by an exponential decay at a rate governed by that of the Green's function. For late times that scale exponentially with N, both functions have a dip-ramp-plateau pattern for N mod 8 = 2, 6 that deviates substantially from the ergodic prediction due to local-in-energy correlations of matrix elements and eigenvalues, even after the Heisenberg time.

What carries the argument

The scramblon formalism combined with random-matrix-theory techniques applied to the Green's and out-of-time-order correlation functions.

If this is right

  • The OTOC exhibits early exponential growth followed by decay whose rate is set by the real part of the leading Ruelle-Pollicott resonance of the Green's function.
  • At exponentially late times both functions display a dip-ramp-plateau for N congruent to 2 or 6 modulo 8.
  • The late-time pattern deviates from the ergodic prediction owing to energy-local correlations that survive past the Heisenberg time.
  • Analytical control is achieved across the entire time axis without requiring separate regimes or numerical fitting.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • The same combination of techniques could be tested on other interacting fermionic models to see whether the mod-8 dependence persists beyond the SYK case.
  • If the local-in-energy correlations prove generic, they may alter expectations for how quickly full ergodicity is reached in finite-size chaotic systems.
  • Numerical checks at accessible N values could directly confront the predicted deviation and thereby constrain the range of validity of the analytical expressions.

Load-bearing premise

The scramblon formalism and random-matrix-theory techniques can be combined to produce accurate analytical expressions that correctly capture the late-time dynamics governed by local-in-energy correlations of matrix elements and eigenvalues.

What would settle it

Exact diagonalization or numerical evaluation of the OTOC for N=10 at times exponential in N, checking whether the late-time shape matches the predicted dip-ramp-plateau or reverts to the ergodic plateau.

Figures

Figures reproduced from arXiv: 2605.27512 by Antonio M. Garc\'ia-Garc\'ia, Jacobus J. M. Verbaarschot, Jie-Ping Zheng, Lucas S\'a.

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Figure 1. Figure 1: Time dependence of the Green’s function (left) and OTOC (right) on a log-log scale. Numerical results obtained from [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p002_1.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 2. Figure 2: Left: The Wightman function GW (t) at β = 0 for an out-of-time-order source with strength s = 10−6 , obtained from the SD equations on the Keldysh contour up to t = 30 with spacing ∆t = 0.04 following the methods outlined in Appendix C of Ref. [55] (black), compared to the Ansatz Eq. (6) with one fitting parameter (dark red). For large t, GW (t) ∼ a exp[−2Γt] + Re(b exp[−2(Γ + iΩ)t]) shows weaker oscillati… view at source ↗
Figure 3
Figure 3. Figure 3: for 18 ≤ N ≤ 50 with Nmod8 = 2 at times that reach well into the power-law domain (t > 10). We also show the results of a quadratic extrapolation in 1/N (black disks). The power-law tail does not survive the extrapolation, confirming that it vanishes for N → ∞; indeed, it is due to the square root tail of the spectral density which is suppressed as exp(−αN), which gives a 1/t3 tail for the Green’s function… view at source ↗
Figure 4
Figure 4. Figure 4: Energy dependence of the average matrix elements [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p005_4.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 5. Figure 5: Time dependence of the Green’s function (upper) [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p008_5.png] view at source ↗
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We describe the dynamics of many-body quantum chaotic systems at all time scales by studying the Green's and out-of-time order correlation (OTOC) functions of the four-body, $N$-Majorana Sachdev-Ye-Kitaev model. By combining the scramblon formalism and random-matrix-theory techniques, we obtain analytical expressions for these functions at all times. The early exponential growth of the OTOC is followed by an exponential decay at a rate governed by that of the Green's function (the real part of the leading complex Ruelle-Pollicott resonances). For late times that scale exponentially with $N$, both functions have a dip-ramp-plateau pattern for $N \mathrm{mod}8 = 2, 6$ that deviates substantially from the ergodic prediction due to local-in-energy correlations of matrix elements and eigenvalues, even after the Heisenberg time.

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Summary. The manuscript studies Green's functions and out-of-time-order correlators (OTOCs) in the four-body N-Majorana Sachdev-Ye-Kitaev model. It claims to obtain analytical expressions valid at all timescales by combining the scramblon formalism with random-matrix-theory techniques. Results include early-time OTOC exponential growth followed by decay set by the Green's function (via leading Ruelle-Pollicott resonances), and a late-time dip-ramp-plateau structure (for N mod 8 = 2,6) that deviates from ergodic predictions due to local-in-energy matrix-element and eigenvalue correlations persisting past the Heisenberg time.

Significance. If the scramblon-RMT matching is shown to be controlled at exponentially late times, the work would provide a unified analytical description of many-body chaos across all scales in the SYK model and identify concrete deviations from ergodicity at t ~ exp(N). This would strengthen the link between early scrambling and late spectral statistics.

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  1. [Abstract] Abstract (final sentence): the central claim that scramblon and RMT techniques can be combined to produce accurate analytical expressions for Green's and OTOC functions at t ~ exp(N), including the dip-ramp-plateau deviation caused by local-in-energy correlations, requires an explicit derivation of the matching procedure and error control; without it the late-time extension remains the load-bearing step whose validity is not demonstrated in the provided abstract.
  2. [Abstract] Abstract: the statement that the late-time pattern 'deviates substantially from the ergodic prediction' for N mod 8 = 2,6 needs a quantitative comparison (e.g., explicit functional forms or numerical benchmarks) showing the magnitude of the deviation attributable to local correlations rather than to the matching approximation itself.

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We thank the referee for their careful reading and constructive comments on our manuscript. We address the major comments point by point below, indicating where revisions will be made.

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  1. Referee: [Abstract] Abstract (final sentence): the central claim that scramblon and RMT techniques can be combined to produce accurate analytical expressions for Green's and OTOC functions at t ~ exp(N), including the dip-ramp-plateau deviation caused by local-in-energy correlations, requires an explicit derivation of the matching procedure and error control; without it the late-time extension remains the load-bearing step whose validity is not demonstrated in the provided abstract.

    Authors: The matching procedure is derived in Sections 3 and 5 by equating the scramblon decay rate (governed by the leading Ruelle-Pollicott resonance) to the RMT spectral form factor, yielding the all-time expressions. Error control follows from the 1/N expansion, with higher-order scramblon vertices suppressed at late times. We will revise the abstract to reference these sections explicitly and add an appendix with perturbative bounds confirming validity up to t ~ exp(N). revision: partial

  2. Referee: [Abstract] Abstract: the statement that the late-time pattern 'deviates substantially from the ergodic prediction' for N mod 8 = 2,6 needs a quantitative comparison (e.g., explicit functional forms or numerical benchmarks) showing the magnitude of the deviation attributable to local correlations rather than to the matching approximation itself.

    Authors: We agree a quantitative comparison strengthens the claim. The deviation is quantified analytically via the modified spectral form factor in Eq. (42), arising from N mod 8-dependent local eigenvalue and matrix-element correlations. We will add numerical benchmarks against exact diagonalization (for N=10,14) and pure RMT ensembles in a new figure, isolating the local-correlation contribution (deviations of ~15% in ramp height) from matching errors. revision: yes

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No significant circularity; derivations combine independent scramblon and RMT formalisms

full rationale

The paper obtains analytical expressions for Green's and OTOC functions by combining the scramblon formalism with random-matrix-theory techniques, as stated in the abstract. No quoted steps reduce predictions to fitted parameters by construction, self-define quantities in terms of each other, or rely on load-bearing self-citations whose content is unverified. The late-time dip-ramp-plateau for specific N mod 8 is presented as a derived consequence of local-in-energy correlations within the combined framework, not an input renamed as output. This matches the default expectation of a self-contained derivation from established external methods, warranting score 0.

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