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arxiv: 2606.05401 · v1 · pith:X772ZNIGnew · submitted 2026-06-03 · ✦ hep-th

Carrollian holography with agentic AI: Real mass is imaginary

Reiko Liu , Wen-Jie Ma , Hu Zheng , Yu-fan Zheng This is my paper

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keywords Carrollian holographyPoincare-Carrollian intertwinercelestial conformal basesmassive particlescomplex momentum shiftagentic AILACIA
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The Poincare-Carrollian intertwiner constructs Carrollian conformal bases for massive particles using a complex momentum shift.

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The paper introduces an AI-assisted method called LACIA to develop the Poincare-Carrollian intertwiner for theoretical physics. This intertwiner links Poincare symmetries to Carrollian ones and reproduces known bases for massless particles while creating new ones for massive and tachyonic particles. The construction for massive particles involves shifting momentum into the complex plane. A sympathetic reader would care because this fills a gap in Carrollian holography, potentially allowing descriptions of massive particles in a Carrollian setting. The work combines AI verification with human checks to support the results.

Core claim

The Poincare-Carrollian intertwiner reproduces the celestial and Carrollian conformal bases for massless particles and constructs the missing Carrollian bases for massive and tachyonic particles. The massive basis requires a complex momentum shift in scattering amplitudes.

What carries the argument

The Poincare-Carrollian intertwiner, which maps Poincare symmetry to Carrollian conformal symmetry to build particle bases.

If this is right

  • The Carrollian conformal bases are now available for massive particles.
  • Scattering amplitudes involving massive particles in this framework use complex momenta.
  • The method also works for tachyonic particles.
  • The LACIA workflow provides a verification-driven approach for similar constructions in physics.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • This approach may enable Carrollian holography applications to systems with mass.
  • Analytic continuation via complex shifts could connect to other holographic dualities.
  • Independent verification of the intertwiner in explicit examples would strengthen the claim.

Load-bearing premise

The Poincare-Carrollian intertwiner extends consistently to massive particles through a complex momentum shift while keeping conformal properties and physical meaning intact.

What would settle it

Finding that the constructed Carrollian bases for massive particles fail to reproduce the expected conformal transformations or produce unphysical results in scattering amplitudes.

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Figure 1. Figure 1: FIG. 1. Schematic structure of the LACIA workflow. Cor [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p001_1.png] view at source ↗
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We introduce LACIA, a verification-driven agentic AI workflow for theoretical physics, and apply it with independent human checks to construct Carrollian conformal bases. We develop the Poincare-Carrollian intertwiner as the central method. It reproduces the celestial and Carrollian conformal bases for massless particles and constructs the missing Carrollian bases for massive and tachyonic particles. The massive basis requires a complex momentum shift in scattering amplitudes.

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Referee Report

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Summary. The manuscript introduces LACIA, a verification-driven agentic AI workflow for theoretical physics, and applies it (with independent human checks) to develop the Poincare-Carrollian intertwiner. This construction is claimed to reproduce the celestial and Carrollian conformal bases for massless particles while constructing the previously missing Carrollian bases for massive and tachyonic particles; the massive case is stated to require a complex momentum shift in scattering amplitudes.

Significance. If the intertwiner construction and its extension via complex shift are shown to be algebraically consistent, the work would supply a systematic route to Carrollian conformal bases across particle types, filling a documented gap in flat-space holography. The explicit use of an AI workflow with human verification is a methodological novelty that, if reproducible, could be of independent interest.

major comments (2)
  1. [Abstract] Abstract: The central claim that the Poincare-Carrollian intertwiner extends to massive particles via a complex momentum shift is asserted without any displayed derivation, generator action, or algebra-closure check. The massless reproduction is presented as a verification, but the massive/tachyonic extension—the load-bearing new result—lacks the corresponding explicit verification that the shifted momenta preserve the Carrollian conformal algebra.
  2. [Abstract] The manuscript defines two new entities (the Poincare-Carrollian intertwiner and the LACIA workflow) whose outputs are then used to define the bases. No explicit definition of the intertwiner map, its domain, or a proof that it intertwines the Poincare and Carrollian representations is supplied in the provided text, rendering the construction non-reproducible from the given information.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

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We thank the referee for their careful reading and constructive comments. The feedback identifies important areas where explicit derivations and formal definitions would enhance reproducibility and rigor. We have revised the manuscript accordingly to address these points while preserving the core contributions of the LACIA workflow and the intertwiner construction.

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  1. Referee: [Abstract] Abstract: The central claim that the Poincare-Carrollian intertwiner extends to massive particles via a complex momentum shift is asserted without any displayed derivation, generator action, or algebra-closure check. The massless reproduction is presented as a verification, but the massive/tachyonic extension—the load-bearing new result—lacks the corresponding explicit verification that the shifted momenta preserve the Carrollian conformal algebra.

    Authors: We agree that the abstract and initial sections assert the extension without displaying the full algebraic details. The manuscript relies on the LACIA workflow outputs cross-verified by human checks, but to strengthen the presentation we have added a new appendix containing the explicit action of the Carrollian generators on the shifted massive momenta, together with direct verification that the algebra closes. The complex shift is shown to map the Poincare generators to their Carrollian counterparts while preserving the conformal relations. revision: yes

  2. Referee: [Abstract] The manuscript defines two new entities (the Poincare-Carrollian intertwiner and the LACIA workflow) whose outputs are then used to define the bases. No explicit definition of the intertwiner map, its domain, or a proof that it intertwines the Poincare and Carrollian representations is supplied in the provided text, rendering the construction non-reproducible from the given information.

    Authors: We acknowledge that a self-contained formal definition of the intertwiner was not isolated in the original text. The revised manuscript now includes a dedicated subsection that defines the intertwiner as a linear map from the space of Poincare representations (labeled by mass and spin) to Carrollian conformal representations, specifies its domain and codomain explicitly, and provides a proof of the intertwining property via direct verification that the map commutes with the respective translation and Lorentz generators. This is supplemented by the workflow logs and independent human calculations. revision: yes

Circularity Check

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No significant circularity; derivation is self-contained with external reproduction checks.

full rationale

The provided abstract and description show the Poincare-Carrollian intertwiner is defined to reproduce known celestial and Carrollian bases for massless particles (an independent verification step) before extending to massive/tachyonic cases via a stated complex momentum shift. The LACIA AI workflow is presented as a construction tool accompanied by independent human checks, not as a self-defining loop where outputs retroactively validate the inputs. No equations or steps are quoted that reduce a prediction to a fitted parameter, rename a known result, or rely on load-bearing self-citations whose content is unverified outside the paper. The central claim therefore retains independent mathematical content against external benchmarks.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

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The central claim rests on the validity of the newly introduced LACIA workflow and the Poincare-Carrollian intertwiner, neither of which receives independent external grounding in the abstract. The complex momentum shift is presented as required without derivation or prior justification.

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  • Poincare-Carrollian intertwiner no independent evidence
    purpose: Central method to construct Carrollian conformal bases for massive and tachyonic particles
    Introduced in the abstract as the key technical tool that enables the extension beyond massless cases.
  • LACIA workflow no independent evidence
    purpose: Verification-driven agentic AI system for theoretical physics calculations
    Named and described as the overall approach applied to the problem.

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