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TUNA: Comprehensive Fine-grained Temporal Understanding Evaluation on Dense Dynamic Videos

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Pith's one-line read TUNA, a new benchmark for fine-grained temporal video understanding, tests whether video-language models actually track camera motion, scene changes, actions, and object attributes over time, and finds that even top models score only…

desk verdict A substantial human-annotated benchmark whose central MCQ temporal-indispensability claim is internally contradicted by its own appendix. read the letter →

arxiv 2505.20124 v2 pith:CDVJHVQW submitted 2025-05-26 cs.CV cs.MM

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keywords videounderstandingbenchmarktemporaldensecaptioningquestionansweringcameramotionactionsequencemultimodallargelanguagemodelsevent-levelevaluation
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The reading

This paper introduces TUNA, a benchmark for fine-grained temporal understanding of short, dense dynamic videos, built on a manually annotated dataset called TUNA-1K. It argues that existing video benchmarks either isolate individual elements like actions or bias toward long videos, entangling temporal ability with long-context modeling. TUNA instead requires models to understand four dynamic elements together—camera state, background scene, subject action, and object attribute—across chronologically ordered events. On this benchmark, the paper reports that even the best model, GPT-4o, reaches only 58.5 percent F1 on dense captioning and about 60 percent accuracy on multiple-choice questions, while open-source models match commercial ones on the question task but lag on captioning. The results point to consistent model weaknesses in camera-motion understanding and action-sequence reasoning.

What carries the argument

The central machinery is the three-level annotation structure of TUNA-1K: a narrative-level whole-video caption, an event-level chronological decomposition into temporal events, and an atomic-level set of visual elements, each typed as camera, scene, action, or attribute and weighted from 1 to 3 by importance. This structure powers TUNA-CAP's evaluation pipeline, which uses GPT-4o to split candidate captions into events, match them to reference events in temporal order, and classify each visual element's relationship to the candidate event as entailment, lack, or contradiction, then computes weighted precision, recall, and F1. The same element structure drives TUNA-MCQ's ten task types, which cover camera motion, camera transition, scene description, scene transition, action recognition, action sequence, action-subject matching, object recognition, object appearance, and object location, with a temporal-indispensability filter meant to reject questions answerable from a single frame.

What would settle it

A direct falsification would be to take the released TUNA-MCQ questions and evaluate models on single-frame inputs versus 16-frame inputs; if accuracy on one random frame matches or closely approaches the 16-frame accuracy on a substantial fraction of questions, the claim that answers require full video context collapses for those items. Additionally, inspecting the released construction code or instructions would settle whether the main-text rule or the Appendix C.2 rule was actually applied.

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Extended reading notes

Core claim

The paper's central claim is that TUNA isolates and measures temporal understanding in video models more directly than previous benchmarks, through two complementary tasks. TUNA-CAP evaluates dense video captioning by splitting generated captions into events, matching them to reference events, and classifying each reference visual element as entailed, lacking, or contradicted by the candidate caption. TUNA-MCQ provides 1,432 multiple-choice questions that, according to the main text, specifically require full video context and cannot be answered from a single frame or limited frames. The evaluation of 21 models shows that all tested models struggle with camera motion (best accuracy 53.9 percent) and action sequences (best 67.6 percent), while scene description and object appearance are comparatively easier. The paper also reports that open-source models such as Qwen2-VL-72B and LLaVA-Video-72B match GPT-4o on the question task, yet commercial models lead clearly on dense captioning.

Load-bearing premise

The central QA claim rests on the temporal-indispensability filter actually removing every question that a single frame could answer; the main text says it does, while Appendix C.2 describes a rule that would keep such questions, so the filter's real behavior is the load-bearing uncertainty.

Editorial extensions

If this is right

  • If TUNA is a valid measure, model improvements should prioritize camera-motion perception and action-sequence reasoning, since these are the weakest and most consistent failure points across all tested models.
  • The strong human-correlation results (Kendall's tau 57.2, Spearman's rho 76.7, Pearson r 69.9) suggest that element-level, relationship-classification-based caption evaluation could replace n-gram and direct LLM scoring methods.
  • The finding that open-source models match commercial ones on TUNA-MCQ but lag on TUNA-CAP implies a specific gap in open-ended holistic video generation and description, not in discriminative temporal question answering.
  • The paper's frame-scaling results indicate that adding frames helps on complex videos up to a point, but going from 32 to 64 frames can hurt on the most complex videos, pointing to context-length and token-compression limits.
  • The observed performance drop as video complexity increases (more events or visual elements) suggests that future benchmarks should report complexity-stratified scores to avoid masking model weaknesses on hard temporal content.

Reading between the lines

Editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • Editorial extension: The benchmark's central QA guarantee is testable by running each TUNA-MCQ question with only one randomly sampled frame as input; if a substantial subset is still answerable correctly, then the claim that answers require full video context is weaker than stated.
  • Editorial extension: The event-splitting and element-weighting approach could be transferred to other video domains, such as egocentric or long-form video, by segmenting videos into events first, although the paper itself does not claim this.
  • Editorial extension: The annotation scheme may also serve as a fine-grained temporal consistency metric for video generation models, since it decomposes a video into checkable camera, scene, action, and attribute elements over time.
  • Editorial extension: Readers should treat the temporal-indispensability guarantee as contingent on the main-text description of the filter; Appendix C.2 gives a different selection rule, and which rule was actually applied would need to be confirmed from the released data and code.
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Editorial analysis

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Referee Report

3 major / 6 minor

Summary. The paper introduces TUNA-1K, a manually annotated dataset of 1,000 short, dense dynamic videos with narrative-level captions, event-level decompositions, and atomic visual elements (camera, scene, action, attribute) with importance weights. On top of this dataset, the authors build a two-task benchmark: TUNA-CAP, an automated captioning evaluation that splits model captions into events, matches them to reference events, and classifies element-level entailment/lack/contradiction via GPT-4o to compute weighted precision/recall/F1; and TUNA-MCQ, a set of 1,432 multiple-choice questions generated from error-prone points extracted by an LMM, refined by crowdsourcing, and filtered by a temporal-indispensability criterion. The paper evaluates 21 video LMMs, reporting that all models struggle with camera motion, action sequence, and multi-subject content, while open-source models are competitive on MCQ but lag on captioning.

Significance. If the benchmark works as claimed, it would be a valuable fine-grained temporal understanding benchmark: it explicitly targets camera state and scene transitions alongside actions and attributes, provides human-annotated ground truth, releases data and code, and includes a human-correlation study (Table 3) showing that the TUNA-CAP metric tracks human judgments better than existing captioning metrics. The interpretable element-level scoring and the multi-dimensional breakdown across dynamic elements and visual characteristics are useful contributions. The central validity claim, however, rests on the assertion that TUNA-MCQ questions require full video context; the internal contradiction between the main text and Appendix C.2 on the temporal-indispensability filter undermines that claim as written, and the captioning metric's inability to penalize ungrounded hallucinated content limits the interpretation of the reported precision scores. These issues are fixable but load-bearing.

major comments (3)
  1. [Limitations; Eq. (1)] The temporal-indispensability filter is defined in two mutually exclusive ways. Section 3.2.3 states that a question is 'temporal-indispensable only if it cannot be correctly answered using a single frame but requires n frames (default n=16) for accurate comprehension.' Appendix C.2 states the opposite: 'A question is deemed temporal-indispensable if it can be accurately answered using both a single frame and multiple frames,' operationalized as 'answered correctly by both 1-frame and 16-frame inputs.' If the appendix reflects the actual implementation, then single-frame-answerable questions are deliberately retained, and the central claim in Section 1 and §3.2.3 — that TUNA-MCQ 'answers cannot be derived from a single frame or limited frames' — is false for the benchmark as constructed. This directly affects the interpretation of every TUNA-MCQ result in Table 4. The authors must clarify which rule was used, correct the inconsistent text, and provide the actual filter statistics (e.g., how many questions were removed by the filter and how the retained set behaves under 1-frame versus 16-frame answering).
  2. [Limitations; Eq. (1)] The TUNA-CAP precision formula in Eq. (1) does not penalize hallucinated content that fails to match reference events, because event matching discards unmatched candidate events before relationship classification. The Limitations section concedes this: 'if the model outputs visual elements that fail to match the annotated events or elements, our method cannot assess their precision... even if this content contains substantial hallucinatory information, our method would be unable to provide a valid assessment.' Consequently, the statement in Section 4.2 that precision 'reflects the correctness of the content mentioned in the descriptions' is too strong; a model that emits long fabricated but irrelevant captions can receive the same precision as a concise accurate model. I recommend reporting an additional ungrounded-content ratio or hallucination rate that measures content not matched to any reference event, so that the precision metric cannot be gamed by verbosity.
  3. [§3.2.2, §4.2, Table 3] GPT-4o is used as the automatic judge for TUNA-CAP (event splitting, event matching, and relationship classification) and is also the best-scoring closed-source model in Table 2. This creates a risk that the evaluation favors GPT-4o's caption style, particularly in the entailment/contradiction judgments. The human-correlation study in Table 3 is based on only 40 videos (687 visual elements) and does not report judge agreement or a comparison against a second LLM judge. To establish that the ranking is not an artifact of judge self-preference, the authors should report inter-judge agreement between GPT-4o and another strong LLM (e.g., Claude or GPT-4.1) on a subsample, and ideally provide the correlation of GPT-4o's judgments with human judgments separately from the final metric computation.
minor comments (6)
  1. [Table 1 and §1] The sample count is inconsistent: Table 1 lists 2,432 samples for TUNA, but the text says TUNA-MCQ comprises 1,432 questions and TUNA-1K has 1,000 videos. Clarify whether 2,432 is the sum of captioning and MCQ samples, and state the exact counts per task.
  2. [Appendix B.1 and C.3] The paper mentions that 'a few samples (less than 5)' for Gemini in TUNA-CAP and 'less than 10' in TUNA-MCQ did not receive responses. Since scores are computed only on samples with responses, the exact denominators differ across models; please report the number of missing responses per model so that small differences in Table 4 are not over-interpreted.
  3. [Table 3] The human-correlation study uses 40 videos; please provide confidence intervals or significance tests beyond p-values, and describe how the 40 videos were sampled to ensure representativeness across the four visual characteristics and 12 domains.
  4. [Figure 26 prompt] The prompt template for MCQ generation contains formatting errors: the JSON example has '"correct_option", ""' instead of '"correct_option": ""', and the reference action-sequence example lists 'answer': '11' for a question about object-picking order, which appears to be a copy-paste error. Please correct these in the appendix.
  5. [Throughout] There are several typos: 'vidoe' in the Table 1 caption, 'Mulitmodal' in Appendix E, 'categorise' in Figure 23, and 'Temporally Dense' in section 2. A light proofread is needed.
  6. [Appendix C.2] The appendix says the filter is applied using LLaVA-Video-7B, but Section 3.2.3 does not state which model performs the filtering; please state the model and frame counts (1 vs 16) explicitly in the main text, since this is essential for reproducibility.

Circularity Check

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Self-definitional contradiction in TUNA-MCQ temporal-indispensability filter: Appendix C.2's rule retains single-frame-answerable questions, inverting §3.2.3's definition.

  1. self definitional [Section 3.2.3 (Multi-Choice QA Generation) vs Appendix C.2 (Quality Review)]
    "a question is considered temporal-indispensable only if it cannot be correctly answered using a single frame but requires n frames (default n=16) for accurate comprehension. ... A question is deemed temporal-indispensable if it can be accurately answered using both a single frame and multiple frames. Specifically, we deem the question to be temporal-indispensable if it can be answered correctly by both 1-frame and 16-frame inputs."

    Section 3.2.3 defines 'temporal-indispensable' as NOT answerable from a single frame, while Appendix C.2 defines and operationalizes it as answerable by BOTH 1-frame and 16-frame inputs. Since 'correctly by both' entails answerable from one frame, the appendix's selection rule is the logical negation of the main text's definition. If Appendix C.2 is the actual filter, then the 1,432 TUNA-MCQ questions are selected precisely for being single-frame-answerable, so the benchmark's load-bearing claim that answers 'cannot be derived from a single frame or limited frames' is false by construction. The reported 'temporal-indispensability' property is therefore self-contradictory and cannot support the claimed full-video-context requirement.

full rationale

The core TUNA-1K data is human-annotated and cross-reviewed, and TUNA-CAP's automatic metric is externally validated against human judgments (Table 3), so the model rankings are not fitted quantities and the benchmark construction is largely independent. No load-bearing self-citation or imported uniqueness theorem was found. The one central circular/definitional flaw is the TUNA-MCQ temporal-indispensability filter: Section 3.2.3 and Appendix C.2 give mutually exclusive operational definitions of the same property. If the appendix procedure was followed, the benchmark's central claim that TUNA-MCQ requires full video context is violated by construction; if it is a typo, the paper must state the correction and report the actual filter. The use of GPT-4o as the automatic judge while it is also the best-scoring evaluated model is a reviewer concern, but it is not a constructional circularity because GPT-4o's judgments are not fitted to its own score. The score reflects the self-definitional contradiction at the load-bearing validity step.

Assumptions & free parameters 4 free parameters · 5 assumptions · 0 invented entities

The benchmark's validity rests on annotation quality, the GPT-4o judge, frame sampling, and the temporal filter. None of these are derived; they are domain assumptions or hand-chosen parameters. The main free parameters are small in number but directly affect every reported score.

free parameters (4)
  • Element weights w_ij
    Annotator-assigned importance weights in {1,2,3} enter the precision, recall, and F1 equations in Section 3.2.2; they are hand-labeled heuristics, not learned or derived.
  • Temporal-indispensability frame count n = 16
    Hand-chosen default frame count used to filter TUNA-MCQ questions; the central claim that questions need temporal context depends on this threshold.
  • Default frame sampling count = 32
    Default 32 uniformly sampled frames, with per-model variations, determines all captioning and QA scores.
  • Error-prone point extraction frames = 8
    8 frames are used when asking a video LMM to find inconsistencies with ground-truth descriptions; a hand-chosen parameter of the MCQ construction pipeline.
assumptions (5)
  • domain assumption Human annotations in TUNA-1K are accurate and consistent ground truth
    No inter-annotator agreement statistics are reported; the full benchmark and all model scores rest on the quality of these annotations (Section 3.1, A.2.4).
  • domain assumption GPT-4o's event splitting, matching, and relationship classification are faithful proxies for human judgment on the full dataset
    TUNA-CAP metrics are computed by GPT-4o (Section 3.2.2), but human correlation is shown only on 40 videos and 687 elements (Appendix B.2.4), not across all 1,000 videos.
  • domain assumption Uniformly sampled frames capture all key events in every video
    The paper asserts that 32 frames, or model-specific sampling, are sufficient for videos up to 38 seconds (Appendix B.1); this is not verified per video and affects all reported scores.
  • standard math Standard weighted precision, recall, and F1 definitions apply
    Equations 1 to 3 in Section 3.2.2 use conventional formulas; no non-standard assumptions are introduced.
  • domain assumption The 1,000 videos selected from ten sources are representative of dense dynamic open-domain video
    Selection is biased toward Film (414 videos) and Daily Life (114), with stock footage and academic datasets filling the rest; representativeness is assumed, not demonstrated.

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Pith. "Pith review of TUNA: Comprehensive Fine-grained Temporal Understanding Evaluation on Dense Dynamic Videos." pith.science (2026). https://pith.science/paper/CDVJHVQW

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  author       = {Pith},
  title        = {Pith review of: TUNA: Comprehensive Fine-grained Temporal Understanding Evaluation on Dense Dynamic Videos},
  year         = {2026},
  howpublished = {\url{https://pith.science/paper/CDVJHVQW}},
  note         = {Machine review of arXiv:2505.20124}
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Videos are unique in their integration of temporal elements, including camera, scene, action, and attribute, along with their dynamic relationships over time. However, existing benchmarks for video understanding often treat these properties separately or narrowly focus on specific aspects, overlooking the holistic nature of video content. To address this, we introduce TUNA, a temporal-oriented benchmark for fine-grained understanding on dense dynamic videos, with two complementary tasks: captioning and QA. Our TUNA features diverse video scenarios and dynamics, assisted by interpretable and robust evaluation criteria. We evaluate several leading models on our benchmark, providing fine-grained performance assessments across various dimensions. This evaluation reveals key challenges in video temporal understanding, such as limited action description, inadequate multi-subject understanding, and insensitivity to camera motion, offering valuable insights for improving video understanding models. The data and code are available at https://friedrichor.github.io/projects/TUNA.

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Figure 1. Performance of several advanced models on [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p001_1.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 2. Overview of TUNA-1K construction. We collect and filter high-quality, short videos featuring dynamic temporal content from various sources. Each video is then categorized based on its visual characteristics and domain. Trained annotators provide temporally dense descriptions, followed by cross-validation. Video experts continuously review annotations, guiding annotators to refine their works, thus ensuring quality o… view at source ↗
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Figure 3. An instance in TUNA-1K consists of three levels of description: (a) an overall caption (Narrative-level), (b) a chronological sequence of events (Event-level), and (c) fine-grained visual elements (Atomic-level) along with their types and weights. A complete sample can be found in [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p004_3.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 4. Figure 4: Overview of the evaluation workflow for TUNA-CAP. We first split candidate caption into multiple events and match them to reference events in TUNA-1K. Then we discard the mismatched events (useless content or inconsistent chronology), and connect the matched candidate …
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Figure 5. Figure 5: Performance comparison of different input frames with different video complexity for models trained in [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p007_5.png]
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Figure 6. Figure 6: Performance comparison across different video complexities. Video Complexity. We partition TUNA-1K based on the number of events and visual elements to investigate how increasing video complexity af￾fects model performance. As shown in [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fi…
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Figure 7. Figure 7: The sample distribution of TUNA-1K, videos covering 4 visual characteristics and 12 domains. As shown in [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p013_7.png]
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Figure 8. Figure 8: Sample distribution of domains in the TUNA￾1K, covering 12 domains. There are 12 domains contained in TUNA-1K, including: (1) Film, (2) Daily Life, (3) Cooking, (4) Sports Activity, (5) Driving, (6) Animals & Pets, (7) Natural Landscape, (8) Cityscape, (9) Urban Activi…
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Figure 9. Figure 9: Visual statistics of the number of events and the number of visual elements in T [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p014_9.png]
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Figure 10. Figure 10: The whole performance comparison on TUNA-CAP across different video complexities. by type and weighted by importance on a scale of 1-3. The types include camera, scene, action, and attribute. Quality Review. For quality assurance, cross￾inspections are performed betwe…
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Figure 11. Figure 11: Performance comparison across different number of input frames. As shown in [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p016_11.png]
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Figure 12. Figure 12: Sample distribution of task types in the [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p017_12.png]
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Figure 13. Figure 13: Sample distribution of correct option in the [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p017_13.png]
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Figure 14. Figure 14: Several video understanding benchmark examples and analysis. [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p019_14.png]
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Figure 15. Figure 15: A detailed example in TUNA-1K [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p023_15.png]
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Figure 16. Figure 16: Several examples in TUNA-MCQ, involving Camera Motion, Camera Transition, Scene Description and Scene Transition tasks [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p024_16.png]
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Figure 17. Figure 17: Several examples in TUNA-MCQ, involving Action Recognition, Action Sequence, and Action-Subject Matching tasks [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p025_17.png]
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Figure 18. Figure 18: Several examples in TUNA-MCQ, involving Object Recognition, Object Appearance, and Object Location tasks [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p026_18.png]
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Figure 19. Figure 19: The default prompt used for the TUNA-CAP experiments in Section 4.2. Given a chronological video caption, split it into multiple chronologically evolving events. All events spliced together should be equal to the original caption. Video Caption: {model_generated_capti…
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Figure 20. Figure 20: The prompt used to split events for the T [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p027_20.png]
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Figure 21. Figure 21: The prompt used to match events for the T [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p027_21.png]
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Figure 22. Figure 22: The prompt used to classify relationships for the T [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p028_22.png]
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Figure 23. Figure 23: The prompt used to classify videos for the T [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p028_23.png]
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Figure 24. Figure 24: The default prompt used for the TUNA-MCQ experiments in Section 4.3. You are an AI visual assistant specialized in analyzing videos. Given 8 frames uniformly sampled from a video clip and a human-annotated video description, your task is to extract the elements of the…
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Figure 25. Figure 25: The prompt used to generate error-prone points for the T [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p029_25.png]
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Figure 26. Figure 26: The prompt used to generate multi-choice QAs for the T [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p030_26.png]

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Reviewed August 7, 2026 · model on record in the stance chip above.