REVIEW 3 major objections 5 minor 109 references
SpatialCLI: Learning to Reason With Spatial Tools, Then Without Them
T0 review · 3 major / 5 minor · reviewed 2026-08-05 · deepseek-v4-flash
Pith's one-line read A three-stage pipeline gives vision-language models specialist spatial perception on demand, then transfers that perception into the model's own weights so the tools are no longer required.
desk verdict A thorough, well-ablated pipeline for teaching VLMs to use and then internalize spatial tools; the internalization evidence is suggestive rather than airtight, but the external benchmark gains deserve a serious referee. read the letter →
The pith
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
The reading
What carries the argument
The load-bearing object is the interaction trajectory—the interleaved reasoning, tool calls, and returned results a VLM produces in a ReAct-style loop. Four tools expose specialist models: Locate (Locate Anything fused with Grounding DINO), Segment (SAM 3), Depth (Depth Anything 3), and Pose (Orient Anything V2, plus VGGT for camera motion). Learning uses cold-start SFT on filtered teacher trajectories, then agentic RL with the GRPO objective and outcome rewards. Internalization applies Progressive Evidence-Grounded Trajectory Verbalization—turn-wise evidence consolidation followed by global verbalization by a large teacher LLM—and Dual-View Capability Internalization, jointly optimizing an
What would settle it
Unpoisoned audit: on a random sample of the trajectories used for internalization, diff every number and relational claim in the verbalized reasoning chain against the raw tool result it was built from; a non-negligible mismatch rate would show the supervision is corrupted at its source. Poisoned test: run the full pipeline with one tool deliberately biased (e.g., all depths shifted +20%) on a held-out set, then check whether the tool-free model reproduces that same bias—if it does, the model has memorized tool outputs rather than learned geometry.
Extended reading notes
Core claim
The central claim is that perceptual evidence a VLM collects from external spatial tools—bounding boxes, masks, depths, pose directions—can be converted into training text that transfers those capabilities into the model's own weights. SpatialCLI verbalizes each successful tool trajectory twice: turn by turn, consolidating each tool result into an evidence-reasoning unit, then globally, merging units into a tool-free reasoning chain that reaches the correct answer. Dual-view training supervises the model on both the tool-free chain and the original tool-call trace, so internalization does not overwrite tool use. Across benchmarks and model scales, trained models beat their base VLMs with too
Load-bearing premise
The entire transfer step trusts that the teacher model's written summaries of tool outputs are exact—no dropped, rounded, or invented coordinate, count, depth, or relation—and the paper does not measure how often the verbalizer preserves every value.
Editorial extensions
If this is right
- A single checkpoint can serve both tool-augmented and tool-free inference: SpatialCLI-8B scores 91.3% with tools and 72.7% without on SpatialCLI-Bench, versus 35.3% for the untrained base model without tools.
- Structured textual returns—coordinates, polygons, metric depths—carry the gain; rendering the same evidence as annotated images adds no consistent benefit, and structured text is what makes verbalization into language training possible.
- Tool-use training and direct-reasoning training are complementary: cold-start SFT plus agentic RL keeps tool calls near 2.6 per task and stabilizes learning, whereas RL without tools degrades tool competence and internalizes far less (52.7% vs 72.7% on SpatialCLI-Bench).
- Internalization scales with both data and model size: task accuracy and the Capability Internalization Index rise together as more trajectories are verbalized, and larger models absorb more capability even after tool-use performance saturates.
Reading between the lines
- The same verbalize-and-train loop likely transfers to other tool classes—search, code execution, simulation—wherever a tool's structured output can be written as text; the paper itself notes its scope is limited to structured perceptual outputs.
- The framework implies a renewable-curriculum view: swap in a stronger specialist tool, regenerate successful trajectories, re-run internalization, and the model's native capability should upgrade—a test the paper does not run.
- Because the verbalizer is itself a language model, internalized knowledge is a second-hand copy of tool outputs; any systematic verbalizer drift (dropped, rounded, or invented values) would be baked into the trained model, so auditing verbalizer fidelity is the natural first check on the method.
- The benchmark's design—forcing composition of multiple spatial capabilities per question—suggests isolated-capability benchmarks understate how far frontier models lag tool-augmented reasoning; on SpatialCLI-Bench a frontier model scores 48.8% without tools and 72.9% with them, a gap worth probing on other compositional tasks.
Editorial analysis
A structured set of objections, weighed in public.
Referee Report
Summary. The paper proposes SpatialCLI, a three-stage framework (Call–Learn–Internalize) for improving vision-language models' spatial reasoning. In the Call stage, specialist vision models are exposed as spatial tools for localization, segmentation, depth, and pose. In the Learn stage, cold-start SFT followed by GRPO-based agentic RL trains the VLM to use these tools. In the Internalize stage, successful tool-use trajectories are verbalized into evidence-grounded reasoning chains via turn-wise consolidation and a global verbalizer, and the model is trained jointly on a capability-internalization view and a tool-use view. The authors also introduce SpatialCLI-Bench, a 516-example six-choice benchmark for compositional spatial reasoning. Experiments on Qwen3-VL-8B, Qwen3.6-35B-A3B, and Qwen3.6-27B, plus several frontier models, report large w/ Tools and w/o Tools gains across MindCube, SpatialCLI-Bench, MMSI, DA-2K, and BOPASK.
Significance. If the internalization stage is faithful, the paper makes a valuable contribution: it demonstrates that tool-grounded perceptual reasoning can be converted into direct, tool-free VLM capability without sacrificing tool use, and it provides a new benchmark for compositional spatial perception. The work is unusually thorough in its ablations, including tool-return format comparisons, verbalization-variant comparisons, λ sensitivity, and training-dynamics analysis. The authors also provide code, model, and dataset links, and the external benchmarks (MindCube, MMSI, DA-2K, BOPASK) are not fitted by design. The principal weakness is that the key verbalization step is unverified and answer-conditioned, leaving open the possibility that the w/o Tools gains partly reflect rationalization rather than internalized tool evidence. With an explicit fidelity audit and variance reporting, the contribution would be solid.
major comments (3)
- [§3.3, Box G.3] The global verbalizer Φ_verb receives the correct answer y* as input. The turn-wise consolidator deliberately withholds y* to prevent answer-conditioned evidence reconstruction, but the global pass reintroduces it and is instructed to construct a reasoning chain 'explaining why the evidence supports that answer.' The prompt rules prohibit introducing unsupported entities/relations, but no verification or quantitative audit is reported. If the teacher silently fills gaps in Eτ to fit y*, then the trained w/o Tools model may be learning answer-shaped reasoning rather than internalized spatial capabilities. This is load-bearing because both the w/o Tools performance and the CII metric are trained on these chains. Please provide a chain-fidelity audit (e.g., automated or human verification that every factual statement in c is entailed by the corresponding tool result or explicit observation)
- [Appendix E, §4.3] The Capability Internalization Index is defined as similarity between the model's tool-free outputs and the specialist-tool outputs. But those same tool outputs were used as the supervision targets for internalization training, so high CII is expected by construction and does not independently establish 'genuine transfer of specialist perceptual capabilities rather than final-answer memorization.' The external w/o Tools gains on MindCube, BOPASK, MMSI, and DA-2K are more convincing evidence, but the CII-based claim in §4.3 should be reframed as a measurement of reproduction fidelity, with the external benchmarks carrying the burden of showing transfer.
- [§4.1, Appendix B.2] All task-performance numbers are reported as means over three evaluation runs, without error bars, confidence intervals, or per-run values. Several improvements in Table 1 are small (e.g., MMSI Pos-Cam-Cam 49.5 vs 53.8, or BOPASK ObjRrr 48.5 vs 52.3) and could be within run-to-run noise. The claim of 'consistent' improvement across all subsets would be much stronger with a measure of variance or a statistical test. Please report standard deviations or the three individual-run results for at least the main tables.
minor comments (5)
- [Abstract] The word 'Learn' is typeset as 'L earn' in the abstract. Please fix the formatting glitch.
- [Figure 4] Panel (a) is labeled 'Performance vs. Steps' but the y-axis label is only 'Score (%)'. Please specify which benchmark the curve refers to, or add per-panel captions.
- [Table 1] The column header 'Pos-Cam-Cam Traj. ObjRrr' is unclear. Please use consistent subset names (e.g., 'Pos-Cam-Cam', 'Trajectory', 'Object-Rearrangement') and match them to the text in §4.1.
- [Appendix C.5] Human review is described as 'two graduate students' who must agree with the generated answer. Reporting inter-annotator agreement or at least the per-annotator accuracy rates would strengthen the claim of independent verification.
- [Appendix B.3] The hardware is described as 'PPU-ZW810E accelerators.' Please provide the vendor/model name or a reference, since this is not a standard publicly identifiable device.
Circularity Check
Central w/o Tools gains are independently grounded on external benchmarks; the CII diagnostic is self-referential but not load-bearing, and the verbalizer-fidelity concern is a validity risk rather than circularity.
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self definitional
[Section 4.3 and Appendix E.4; supervision source in Section 3.3]
"To quantify internalization, we use the Capability Internalization Index (CII), which measures how closely a model can reproduce the corresponding spatial-tool outputs without invoking the tools; higher values indicate stronger internalization... SpatialCLI therefore uses successful SpatialCLI-RL trajectories as the source of supervision for internalizing the specialist perceptual capabilities supplied by spatial tools."
CII's reference standard is the spatial-tool output, and the internalization supervision is a verbalization of trajectories produced by those same spatial tools. Thus CII measures agreement with the source distribution that generated the training target; an increase after training is expected from fitting that distribution. The paper uses the synchronized rise of CII and task scores to claim 'genuine transfer ... rather than final-answer memorization,' but CII cannot independently distinguish internalization from distributional mimicry because the metric and the training signal share the same oracle. The held-out CII suite mitigates direct memorization, and the main external-benchmark gains remain independent, so this is a self-referential diagnostic rather than a derivation of the central
full rationale
The central claim—SpatialCLI improves both w/ Tools and w/o Tools reasoning—is supported by Table 1 on external benchmarks (MindCube, MMSI, DA-2K, BOPASK) that are not constructed by the paper and are claimed to be non-overlapping with training data. Those w/o Tools gains (e.g., MindCube 29.3→73.8 for Qwen3-VL-8B-Instruct) are not fitted to the evaluation sets and give the main result independent content. The self-referential components are auxiliary: CII is defined as reproducing the same specialist-tool outputs that generated the internalization supervision, and SpatialCLI-Bench questions are conditioned on specialist evidence, but neither is the sole evidence for transfer. A separate validity risk is that the global verbalizer receives the correct answer y* before composing the reasoning chain (Section 3.3, Box G.3); the prompt rules forbid unsupported additions but no fidelity audit is reported. This could make the w/o Tools chains answer-conditioned rationalizations, but it is a correctness/robustness threat, not a circularity, because the model does not see y* at inference and the external benchmark evaluations are independent. Overall, no load-bearing step reduces by construction to its inputs; the paper's derivation is self-contained enough for a low circularity score.
Assumptions & free parameters
free parameters (5)
- Tool-Use View loss weight λ =
0.5
- Locate fusion thresholds =
confidence 0.30, NMS IoU 0.50, cross-confirm IoU 0.50, dedup IoU 0.75, near-contained ratio 0.90
- Segment simplification parameters =
confidence 0.30, mask suppression IoU 0.90, polygon target IoU 0.97, vertex budget 16, min component area 16 px²
- Depth backend settings =
processing resolution 504 px, deterministic metric-scale alignment
- Pose discretization thresholds =
45° sectors, translation norm 0.002, rotation suppression 2°
assumptions (4)
- domain assumption Specialist vision models (SAM 3, Grounding DINO, Locate Anything, Depth Anything 3, VGGT, Orient Anything V2) produce sufficiently reliable spatial outputs to serve as ground-truth evidence.
- domain assumption The teacher LLM (Qwen3.5-397B-A17B) generates correct tool-use trajectories and faithfully verbalizes them without hallucinating or omitting evidence.
- domain assumption GRPO/DAPO reinforcement learning with sparse outcome rewards shapes the tool-use policy as expected.
- domain assumption Gemini 3.1 Pro and human expert review produce valid, unbiased ground truth for SpatialCLI-Bench.
Cite this review
Pith. "Pith review of SpatialCLI: Learning to Reason With Spatial Tools, Then Without Them." pith.science (2026). https://pith.science/paper/EZV5JO5V
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read the original abstract
Vision-language models (VLMs) are increasingly used in embodied agents to interpret visual inputs, reason about spatial relationships, and make task-level decisions based on that reasoning. However, a fundamental capability mismatch remains: general VLMs can reason about the overall task but often miss the visual details that determine success, while specialist vision models can capture those details but cannot translate them into task-level decisions. In this work, we propose SpatialCLI, a framework that teaches VLMs to reason with spatial tools and progressively internalize the specialist perceptual capabilities they provide. SpatialCLI proceeds in three stages: (1) Call exposes specialist vision models as spatial tools to augment the VLM's perception; (2) Learn uses Cold-Start SFT and agentic RL to improve tool use; and (3) Internalize verbalizes successful tool-use trajectories to internalize specialist perceptual capabilities. We further introduce SpatialCLI-Bench, a 516-example benchmark for compositional perception across localization, segmentation, depth, and pose. On MindCube, SpatialCLI raises Qwen3-VL-8B-Instruct from 29.3% to 84.6% with tools, surpassing GPT-5.6 Sol with tools (72.1%), while retaining 73.8% without tools after internalization.
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Do not turn a plan, a proposed tool action, answer-option analysis, or an uncertain guess into an observed fact
Every perceptual claim must be traceable to the current tool result, an explicit visual observation written in the current original reasoning, or a previous unit. Do not turn a plan, a proposed tool action, answer-option analysis, or an uncertain guess into an observed fact
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Exhaustively verbalize every item and every field exposed by the current tool result. Preserve the returned count, every instance, image index, label, bounding box, point, polygon component and vertex, depth value, pose field, motion field, direction, axis, error, and other re...
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Use only entities, attributes, values, and relations present in the evidence units
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Merge evidence in dependency order and remove repeated or superseded statements, but do not discard an explicit visual or spatial fact merely because it is unnecessary for choosing the answer
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Preserve the concrete visual-spatial descriptions carried by the evidence units and include every essential inference needed to support all clauses of the answer
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Never mention tools, calls, results, evidence units, confidence scores, or this instruction
Write as direct visual reasoning. Never mention tools, calls, results, evidence units, confidence scores, or this instruction
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Do not invent entities, attributes, measurements, or relations. 34
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answer":
Put reasoning and answer in separate XML sections. Copy the provided final answer exactly. 12 13Return the structured result in this form: 14<internalization_target> 15<reasoning_chain> 16Complete, detailed, tool-free perceptual reasoning. 17</reasoning_chain> 18<final_answer>...
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Locate the beige trash can and the blue trash can in the first image
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Get depth for both to confirm which is closer
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This includes left/right, above/below, front/behind, near/far, overlap, containment, adjacency, occlusion, orientation, size, appearance, and count descriptions
Preserve every explicit visual observation and absolute or relative visual-spatial relation from the current original reasoning, even when it is unrelated to the current task. This includes left/right, above/below, front/behind, near/far, overlap, containment, adjacency, occlu...
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Confirm left/right position based on location
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camera motion
Use ‘query_pose‘ with "camera motion" to determine the rotation direction from image 1 to image 2. **Execution:**
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beige trash can
‘query_locate‘ for "beige trash can" and "blue trash can" in image 1
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‘query_depth‘ on their centers
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camera motion
‘query_pose‘ for "camera motion" between image 1 and 2. Let’s refine the queries. - Query 1: "beige trash can with black bag" in image 1. - Query 2: "blue trash can with clear bag" in image 1. - Query 3: "camera motion" from image 1 to 2. Wait, looking at image 2, the blue bin...
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Since 0.776 < 0.928, the **blue receptacle is closer**
**Distances**: The depth query shows the beige receptacle (point [310, 524]) is at **0.928m** and the blue receptacle (point [773, 643]) is at **0.776m**. Since 0.776 < 0.928, the **blue receptacle is closer**
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Therefore, the closer receptacle (blue) is located on the **right**
**Location**: In the first image, the beige can is at x=310 (left side) and the blue can is at x=773 (right side). Therefore, the closer receptacle (blue) is located on the **right**
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answer":
**Camera Motion**: The pose query for camera motion from image 1 to 2 indicates a ‘view_rotation‘ direction of **right**. Matching these facts to the options: Closer: Blue Location: Right Rotation: Right This corresponds to Option D. {"answer": "D"} H.2 Case 2: Two-Image Camer...
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white sandals with pearl straps
**Locate the sandals in Image 1:** I need to find the two white sandals. Looking at Image 1, there are two distinct white heeled sandals sitting on a pink cloth. They have pearl-like embellishments on the toe strap. One is slightly behind/left of the other. Wait, let’s look cl...
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Specifically, look at ‘x_max‘ (the third value in ‘[x_min, y_min, x_max, y_max]‘)
**Determine the right-most sandal:** Compare the ‘bbox_2d‘ values. Specifically, look at ‘x_max‘ (the third value in ‘[x_min, y_min, x_max, y_max]‘). - Sandal A (foreground): likely has a larger x_max because it’s more to the right. - Sandal B (background): likely has a smaller x_max
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is estimated at
Use calibrated perceptual wording such as "is estimated at", "appears", "approximately", or "the result indicates" where appropriate, because tool outputs are perception estimates. Keep every returned numeric value exactly as given: do not round, alter, normalize again, or inv...
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**Find max y-coordinate:** Once the right-most sandal is identified, take its ‘y_max‘ (the fourth value in the bbox)
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camera motion
**Determine camera motion:** Use ‘query_pose‘ with query "camera motion" comparing Image 1 to Image 2. - Image 1 shows a close-up of the shoes on a bed/surface with a headboard behind. - Image 2 shows the same shoes but from a different angle. The background has changed signif...
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That’s the front/right sandal [143, 508, 765, 856]
Target sandal: The one with larger max x. That’s the front/right sandal [143, 508, 765, 856]. Max x is 765. The other is [159, 492, 715, 747], max x 715
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Max y of target sandal: 856
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forward-left
Camera translation: Backward (zoom out/move away) and Left (sneaker moves from right edge to center). Therefore, Option C: Maximum y-coordinate: 856; Camera translation: backward-left. Let’s double check the bounding box values provided in the prompt’s hidden ground truth or j...
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Yellow ball)
**Which object is further to the right in the first image?** (Clear plastic bottle vs. Yellow ball)
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Yellow ball)
**Which object is closer to the camera in the first image?** (Clear plastic bottle vs. Yellow ball)
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clear plastic bottle
**In which direction did the camera translate to capture the second image?** Let’s break this down step-by-step. **Step 1: Analyze the first image for horizontal position (left/right).** - I need to locate the "clear plastic bottle" and the "yellow ball". - Looking at Image 1,...
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clear plastic bottle
Locate "clear plastic bottle" and "yellow ball" in Image 1 to confirm positions and get points for depth
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Query depth for the centers of these two objects in Image 1 to confirm which is closer
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Clearly resolve a prior visual estimate when stronger tool evidence supersedes it
Explain how the new evidence confirms, revises, or extends prior evidence. Clearly resolve a prior visual estimate when stronger tool evidence supersedes it
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camera motion
Query "camera motion" between Image 1 and Image 2. **Execution:**
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clear plastic bottle
‘query_locate‘ for "clear plastic bottle" and "yellow ball" in image 1
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‘query_depth‘ using the points obtained
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camera motion
‘query_pose‘ for "camera motion". Let’s refine the queries. - Query 1: ‘query_locate‘ with query="clear plastic bottle", image_indices=[1] - Query 2: ‘query_locate‘ with query="yellow ball", image_indices=[1] - Query 3: ‘query_depth‘ using points from above. - Query 4: ‘query_...
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**Which object is further to the right?** - Clear plastic bottle center: [329, 417] - Yellow ball center: [644, 348] - The x-coordinate of the yellow ball (644) is greater than the x-coordinate of the bottle (329), so the yellow ball is further to the right
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**Which object is closer to the camera?** - Bottle depth: 0.351 m - Ball depth: 0.637 m - Smaller depth means closer, so the clear plastic bottle (0.351 m) is closer to the camera than the yellow ball (0.637 m)
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forward-left
**Camera translation direction:** - The query_pose result shows position.direction = "forward-left" when going from image 1 to image 2. So the correct option should state: - The yellow ball is further to the right✓ - The clear plastic bottle is closer to the camera✓ - Camera t...
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Do not repeat unchanged evidence already preserved in a previous unit, but never discard newly returned or newly stated visual information merely because it is task-irrelevant
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13 14Return the structured result in this form: 15<evidence_unit> 16<new_evidence> 17Complete readable natural-language statements verbalizing all returned information
Empty evidence is valid only when the interaction failed or truly returned no information; preserve the failure or empty-result details themselves. 13 14Return the structured result in this form: 15<evidence_unit> 16<new_evidence> 17Complete readable natural-language statement...
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31- Output: count and zero or more matched instances
query_locate — open-vocabulary 2D localization 30- Input: a short visible object/category description and optional 1-based image_indices. 31- Output: count and zero or more matched instances. Each instance may contain bbox_2d=[x1,y1,x2,y2] and point_2d=[x,y]. 32- Coordinates u...
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38- The exposed segmentation result contains bbox_2d, point_2d, and polygon_2d
query_segment — open-vocabulary instance segmentation 37- Input: a short visible object/category description and optional 1-based image_indices. 38- The exposed segmentation result contains bbox_2d, point_2d, and polygon_2d. point_2d is derived from bbox_2d rather than indepen...
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46- Output: one result per point with point_2d and depth_m
query_depth — metric camera-axis depth at image points 45- Input: one or more normalized 0–999 points and optional 1-based image_indices. 46- Output: one result per point with point_2d and depth_m. 47- depth_m is estimated camera-axis distance in meters. Smaller depth_m means ...
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Output may include image_index, bbox_2d, visible_side, and facing_direction_camera
query_pose — object orientation or cross-view camera motion 52- Object mode input: a short object description, optionally with image_indices. Output may include image_index, bbox_2d, visible_side, and facing_direction_camera. 33 53- visible_side names the object’s side seen by...
Reviewed August 5, 2026 · model on record in the stance chip above.
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