REVIEW 4 major objections 6 minor 15 references
ELLIS Alicante at CQs-Gen 2025: Winning the critical thinking questions shared task: LLM-based question generation and selection
T0 review · 4 major / 6 minor · reviewed 2026-08-07 · deepseek-v4-flash
Pith's one-line read Small open-weight LLMs win critical-question generation task
desk verdict A solid shared-task system paper whose reported win rests on an under-documented manual evaluation and automatic metrics that point the other way. read the letter →
The pith
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
The reading
What carries the argument
The pipeline is the central mechanism: a Questioner LLM generates N candidate questions, then a Judge LLM ranks and selects three. The generation prompt optionally includes argumentation scheme definitions and critical-question templates from Walton et al. (2008); the Judge's prompt instructs it to prefer redundant-but-important questions. The paper's key design choice is the 'Both' configuration, where the Questioner is prompted once with and once without schemes and the candidates are merged before selection.
What would settle it
If an independent set of human judges re-annotated the test questions and the winning submission's manual usefulness score fell substantially below 67.6, or if a different random split of the 189 interventions reversed the ranking between the small-model pipeline and the GPT-4o baseline, the paper's central claim of superiority would be undercut. More directly, rerunning the final submission with the same prompts and models but with the 'Both' scheme configuration removed should drop the manual score if the scheme mixture is truly load-bearing.
Extended reading notes
Core claim
The central claim is that combining a generative Questioner LLM with an evaluative Judge LLM, both in the 7B–14B parameter range and without fine-tuning, outperforms other submissions to the CQs-Gen 2025 shared task on critical question generation. In the final submission, Llama 3.1 8B generates four candidate questions without argumentation schemes and four with schemes in a single prompt; Gemma 2 9B then selects the three most relevant. After organizers' manual annotation, this submission scored 67.6 and ranked first. The paper also reports that selectively mixing scheme-based and scheme-free prompts ('Both') beats either alone, and that the Judge adds a small but statistically significant gain over random selection.
Load-bearing premise
The method's winning configuration was chosen assuming that questions the automatic metric cannot evaluate may still be genuinely useful, so a lower automatic score does not mean worse questions.
Editorial extensions
If this is right
- Separating generation from selection improves question quality over direct generation.
- Selectively adding argumentation schemes to prompts yields better questions than strict enforcement, which reduces diversity.
- Small, open-weight models in the 7B–14B range can compete with or beat a GPT-4o-based pipeline on this task.
- The automatic similarity-based evaluation underestimates useful questions, so manual annotation can substantially change rankings.
Reading between the lines
- If the automatic metric's 'Not able to evaluate' labels hide many useful questions, then leaderboard rankings on this task hinge on human annotation; future shared tasks should consider designing metrics that better credit novel-but-valid critical questions.
- The Questioner–Judge architecture could be applied to other argumentative domains (e.g., scientific claims, policy documents) with minimal adaptation, since it only needs an intervention text and optional scheme definitions.
- The near-oracle gap in Judge performance (93.5% oracle vs 59.3% Gemma 2) suggests headroom for better selection methods, e.g., training a small classifier on human preferences or using uncertainty-based selection.
Editorial analysis
A structured set of objections, weighed in public.
Referee Report
Summary. The paper describes a two-stage pipeline for critical question generation in debate interventions: a Questioner LLM generates multiple candidate questions, and a Judge LLM selects the three most useful ones. Using small open-weight models (Llama 3.1 8B as Questioner, Gemma 2 9B as Judge) and including argumentation schemes selectively in prompts, the system was entered into the CQs-Gen 2025 shared task. The authors report that after manual annotation by the organizers, the best submission reached a score of 67.6 and ranked first. The paper also presents internal experiments on model choice, number of candidates, scheme prompting, and Judge selection.
Significance. If the reported shared-task result is fully substantiated, the paper has clear practical significance: a small, open-weight, untuned LLM pipeline outperformed a GPT-4o-based pipeline on a human-evaluated task, which supports locally deployable educational tools that preserve privacy. The paper gives credit for releasing code, running experiments on commodity hardware, and honestly listing limitations, including the mismatch between automatic and human evaluation. However, the internal evidence for the specific architectural choices is noisy, and the central claim of winning rests on a manual re-annotation whose details are not reported in the manuscript.
major comments (4)
- [§4.5, Table 5] The central claim that the proposed system won the shared task is not substantiated within the paper. Submission 1 has the lowest automatic test usefulness (36.3%) among the three submissions, while Submission 3 reaches 50.0%; the only evidence for the win is the sentence 'After the manual annotation of the questions by the organizers, the score of the best performing submission rose to 67.6, ranking first in the task.' The paper should report the official scoring formula, the number of annotators and their agreement, how many Not-able-to-evaluate questions were reclassified into each label, and the manual scores for all three submissions. If these details are in the shared-task overview paper, cite the specific table or section; otherwise include them directly.
- [§3.2, Tables 1–3] Configuration choices that motivated the final submission are based on single-run automatic scores on Dtest with no variance estimates. The differences among the top rows of Table 1 (57.6 vs. 57.1 vs. 56.8) and between 'Both' and 'Without' in Table 2 (62.4 vs. 57.7) are small, and Table 3 shows overlapping confidence intervals for 4, 6, and 8 candidate questions (59.3±3.36, 57.2±0.88, 57.3±0.76), yet §4.3 concludes that four candidates are best. Report multiple runs with confidence intervals or perform statistical tests for the key comparisons that drive the design decisions.
- [§4.4, Table 4] The claim that the Judge improves over random selection by 3.4 percentage points with p < 0.05 (McNemar's test) lacks essential procedural details. State the number of paired items, whether the test was applied to pooled questions or per intervention, how the three runs were aggregated, and the test statistic. Without this information, the statistical claim cannot be verified.
- [Limitations and §A.2.1] The paper acknowledges that Not-able-to-evaluate questions may still be useful and that the authors intentionally avoided overfitting to the automatic metric. This assumption is load-bearing because the final submission was chosen despite its lowest automatic test usefulness. A quantitative characterization of the Not-able-to-evaluate category—for example, a manual sample annotation with agreement figures, or a breakdown of the official re-annotation—would directly support this assumption and is currently missing.
minor comments (6)
- [§4.5, Table 5] The table header contains a typo, 'Valiadation' for 'Validation,' and the surrounding text says 'DShared train and DShared test' while the table columns are labeled 'Valiadation' and 'Test'; clarify which split each column reports.
- [Figures 2 and 3] The axis labels contain '/glyph1197umber' instead of 'Number,' indicating a LaTeX rendering issue that should be fixed.
- [§A.2.1] The text refers to 'the column No in Tables 1, 2, and 3,' but the corresponding column is labeled 'NoEval' in the tables; align the terminology.
- [Table 1 caption] The caption should explicitly state that rows with '—' for LLMJ correspond to direct generation by LLMQ without a Judge, rather than leaving that interpretation to the reader.
- [Tables 3 and §4.3] The meaning of '# quest.' is ambiguous: clarify whether the numbers denote candidate questions per prompt, total candidates including both scheme and non-scheme prompts, or something else, because §4.3 mentions 'four candidate questions per prompt (eight in total).'
- [References] The shared-task overview (Figueras et al., 2025) is cited in §2.2 but with no page numbers or URL in the reference list; add the complete proceedings information.
Circularity Check
No significant circularity: the winning result rests on an externally held-out test set and organizer manual annotation, and local model selection on a development split is standard rather than definitional.
full rationale
The paper is an empirical system description rather than a derivation. Its central claim—that the Llama 3.1 8B Questioner plus Gemma 2 9B Judge configuration ranked first in CQs-Gen 2025—is supported by the organizers' held-out test set and manual annotation, both external to the paper. The authors select hyperparameters on Dtest, a split of the shared training set, and then report the chosen configuration on Dshared_test; this is standard model selection and does not make the final ranking equivalent to the selection criterion. The automatic metric's poor showing for the winning submission and the absence of a manual-annotation breakdown raise statistical robustness concerns, but those are correctness issues, not circularity. The self-citations (e.g., Favero et al. 2024; Figueras and Agerri 2024) are contextual prior work and are not load-bearing; no equation or fitted parameter is reused as a prediction. No circular step was found.
Assumptions & free parameters
free parameters (3)
- Number of candidate questions per prompt =
8 (4 without scheme + 4 with scheme)
- Questioner/Judge model pair =
Llama 3.1 8B / Gemma 2 9B
- Critical question template choice =
Template from Figueras and Agerri (2024)
assumptions (4)
- domain assumption Cosine similarity >= 0.6 to a reference question indicates the generated question is Useful
- domain assumption Argumentation schemes provide useful structural guidance for generating critical questions
- domain assumption Small open-weight LLMs can generate and select useful critical questions without fine-tuning
- domain assumption LLM-as-judge can select the most useful among candidate questions better than random
Cite this review
Pith. "Pith review of ELLIS Alicante at CQs-Gen 2025: Winning the critical thinking questions shared task: LLM-based question generation and selection." pith.science (2026). https://pith.science/paper/UX4WXMRZ
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read the original abstract
The widespread adoption of chat interfaces based on Large Language Models (LLMs) raises concerns about promoting superficial learning and undermining the development of critical thinking skills. Instead of relying on LLMs purely for retrieving factual information, this work explores their potential to foster deeper reasoning by generating critical questions that challenge unsupported or vague claims in debate interventions. This study is part of a shared task of the 12th Workshop on Argument Mining, co-located with ACL 2025, focused on automatic critical question generation. We propose a two-step framework involving two small-scale open source language models: a Questioner that generates multiple candidate questions and a Judge that selects the most relevant ones. Our system ranked first in the shared task competition, demonstrating the potential of the proposed LLM-based approach to encourage critical engagement with argumentative texts.
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