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arxiv: 2605.29629 · v1 · pith:PYVUVQ45new · submitted 2026-05-28 · 💻 cs.AI

Beyond Attack Success Rate: Temporal Logit Observability for LLM Safety Failures

Pith reviewed 2026-06-29 07:31 UTC · model grok-4.3

classification 💻 cs.AI
keywords LLM jailbreaksattack success ratelogit observabilitytemporal dynamicsrefusal marginsafety evaluationearly stopping
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The pith

Tracking the compliance-refusal margin in output logits over time distinguishes jailbreak paths that share the same attack success rate.

A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.

The paper shows that attack success rate alone misses important differences in how LLM jailbreaks unfold during generation. Temporal Logit Observability uses logits to monitor a margin between compliance and refusal signals step by step. This maps each model and attack onto a 2D plane where positions reveal distinct temporal patterns even for equal final success rates. The method aligns with some internal state probes and produces an early-stopping rule that reduces successful attacks substantially on benign queries. Reporting the timing and manner of failures would improve safety evaluations beyond binary outcomes.

Core claim

Temporal Logit Observability (TLO) is a training-free diagnostic that watches a compliance-refusal margin during decoding and places each model-attack condition on a calibrated 2D plane. By design, this plane is most informative exactly where ASR is least informative: among attacks that succeed for genuinely different reasons. Across four aligned LLMs and three jailbreak paradigms, attacks with nearly identical ASR land at clearly different points on the plane: the same model can fail through different temporal patterns.

What carries the argument

The compliance-refusal margin computed from output logits at each decoding step, tracked to form a temporal signature placed on a calibrated 2D plane.

If this is right

  • Attacks with nearly identical ASR land at clearly different points on the TLO plane.
  • The same model can fail through different temporal patterns under different attacks.
  • The geometry of the TLO plane matches refusal-direction probes from hidden states on most conditions.
  • A simple early-stop rule derived from TLO cuts successful jailbreaks by more than half without false alarms on plain benign queries.
  • Safety evaluation should report when and how a failure unfolds, not only whether it occurred.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • Systems could monitor the margin at inference time to intervene before harmful output completes.
  • The fixed-lexicon margin may need adjustment for models with very different output vocabularies to maintain plane stability.
  • The 2D plane coordinates might be tested as features for clustering or predicting attack effectiveness in new paradigms.

Load-bearing premise

The compliance-refusal margin computed from output logits is a faithful proxy for the model's internal refusal dynamics across different models, attack paradigms, and generation lengths.

What would settle it

Applying the derived early-stop rule to new jailbreak attempts on additional models either fails to reduce successes by a substantial margin or incorrectly interrupts generation on plain benign queries would refute the diagnostic's claimed utility.

Figures

Figures reproduced from arXiv: 2605.29629 by Jaewoo Lee, Junyoung Park, Seongyong Ju, Sunghwan Park.

Figure 1
Figure 1. Figure 1: ASR collapses temporally distinct safety failures. (a) Distinct attacks against the same harmful question can yield equally compliant final responses, indistinguishable under ASR. (b) The model–attack conditions follow temporally distinct logit trajectories, recoverable as TLO’s per-step compliance–refusal margin. Existing approaches that recover this hidden structure rely on hidden-state probes [1, 29, 27… view at source ↗
Figure 2
Figure 2. Figure 2: Operationalizing TLO. (a) A real harmful-sample logit trajectory illustrates the external time series of compliance–refusal balance during generation. (b) Relative-position calibration ex￾presses each temporal observation relative to harmful and attack-formatted benign references, making conditions comparable without hidden-state access. S¯ = 1 T PT t=1 St is the generation-time observation, computed as th… view at source ↗
Figure 3
Figure 3. Figure 3: Conditions with similar ASR can occupy distinct RP-plane locations. Each point is a model–attack condition with coordinate c = (RPA, RPB) that captures pre-generation and generation-time calibrated logit position; marker shape denotes attack family and color denotes ASR under the primary Llama-Guard judge. The diagonal marks RPB = RPA for visual reference. Llama+GCG has RPB = 3.80 and is clipped for readab… view at source ↗
Figure 4
Figure 4. Figure 4: TLO marks safety-activation timing on the trajectory. For the same harmful question on Mistral under two attack wrappers, the failed MCM jailbreak crosses early (tcross = 5) and shows sign reversal, while the successful DI jailbreak delays crossing (tcross = 42) without sign reversal. Reliable conditions span the grid. Of the 12 conditions, 7 show statistically reliable RP-plane displacement under FDR-corr… view at source ↗
Figure 5
Figure 5. Figure 5: ASR-neighboring conditions can have different raw trajectories. Representative con￾dition pairs with identical or near-identical ASR show different LMS crossing behavior. These raw trajectories are qualitative motivation only; the main text uses calibrated RP-plane distances for the primary comparison. B Lexicon and Method Details B.1 Lexicon Specification The Logit-Margin Score uses a fixed English compli… view at source ↗
Figure 6
Figure 6. Figure 6: Token rank linkage. Negative St corresponds to high-ranked refusal tokens, while positive St pushes refusal tokens lower in the vocabulary ranking. E Hidden-State References Hidden-state references define the access–observability boundary of the St trajectory. Hidden-state probes use internal activations, so their higher predictive capacity is expected under stronger access assumptions. The relevant questi… view at source ↗
Figure 7
Figure 7. Figure 7: Layer-sweep hidden-state alignment. Panel (a) shows mean early |ρ| between St and zt; panel (b) shows expected-sign consistency across attacks. Llama is consistently strongest, while Qwen is the main boundary case. The table shows that both St summaries and hidden-state probes carry above-chance success-label information across the model grid. Hidden-state probes generally have higher mean AUC under strong… view at source ↗
Figure 8
Figure 8. Figure 8: Layer-sweep visualization for hidden-state alignment. The plot shows early temporal association between the St trajectory and hidden-state reference projections across L25, L50, and L75. The same broad interpretation holds away from L50: alignment is strongest and most consistent for Llama, weaker and boundary-like for Qwen, and condition-dependent for Mistral and Gemma. F Robustness and Ablations F.1 Stoc… view at source ↗
Figure 9
Figure 9. Figure 9: Logit-Margin Score distributions by lexicon variant. (Left) Pre-generation S0 and (right) generation-time S¯ across five lexicon variants (Llama, harmful MCM, n = 60). Absolute scale shifts with lexicon composition, but discriminatory structure is preserved across all variants; even extended_compliance, which shifts the baseline upward, maintains high AUC [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p025_9.png] view at source ↗
read the original abstract

Attack Success Rate (ASR) evaluates each jailbreak with a single yes/no label at the end of generation, telling us whether a failure happened but not how it unfolded. Two attacks that produce equally harmful outputs may have followed completely different paths, and ASR cannot tell them apart. We make those hidden paths observable from logits alone. Temporal Logit Observability (TLO) is a training-free diagnostic that watches a compliance-refusal margin during decoding and places each model-attack condition on a calibrated 2D plane. By design, this plane is most informative exactly where ASR is least informative: among attacks that succeed for genuinely different reasons. Across four aligned LLMs and three jailbreak paradigms, attacks with nearly identical ASR land at clearly different points on the plane: the same model can fail through different temporal patterns. The geometry matches refusal-direction probes from hidden states on most conditions, with one model showing the limit of our fixed-lexicon approach. A simple early-stop rule derived from TLO cuts successful jailbreaks by more than half, without false alarms on plain benign queries. Safety evaluation should report when and how a failure unfolds, not only whether it occurred. TLO makes the first two observable from logits alone.

Editorial analysis

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Referee Report

3 major / 3 minor

Summary. The paper introduces Temporal Logit Observability (TLO), a training-free diagnostic that tracks a compliance-refusal margin derived from output logits during decoding. It projects model-attack conditions onto a calibrated 2D plane to distinguish temporal failure patterns among attacks that achieve similar attack success rates (ASR). The geometry is reported to align with hidden-state refusal probes on most conditions across four aligned LLMs and three jailbreak paradigms, with one noted limit of the fixed-lexicon approach. A simple early-stop rule extracted from the plane is claimed to reduce successful jailbreaks by more than half while producing zero false alarms on benign queries.

Significance. If the compliance-refusal margin is shown to be a robust proxy for internal refusal dynamics, TLO would provide a finer-grained, logit-only alternative to binary ASR for safety evaluation, enabling differentiation of failure mechanisms and practical mitigation. The training-free design and reported match to internal probes are notable strengths; the early-stop result, if generalizable, would be a concrete practical contribution.

major comments (3)
  1. [§3] §3 (Margin Definition): The compliance-refusal margin is computed from a fixed lexicon of compliance and refusal tokens. The manuscript acknowledges a limit on one model but provides no ablation on lexicon choice or perturbation; without evidence that 2D plane positions remain stable under lexicon variation, it is unclear whether the geometry tracks refusal dynamics or surface token statistics.
  2. [§5.2] §5.2 (Early-Stop Rule): The rule is derived from the TLO plane and reported to halve jailbreaks with zero false alarms on benign queries. The text must specify the exact threshold derivation procedure, the size and diversity of the benign test set, and whether the rule was evaluated on held-out attack styles, generation lengths, or models outside the calibration set.
  3. [§4.3] §4.3 and Table 4 (Geometry Match): Alignment with hidden-state probes is stated for 'most conditions.' The manuscript should report a quantitative similarity metric (e.g., cosine distance or rank correlation per condition) and analyze the discrepant model/condition in detail to establish the scope of the proxy's validity.
minor comments (3)
  1. [§3] Notation for the 2D plane axes and calibration procedure should be introduced with an equation in §3 rather than described only in prose.
  2. [Figures 2-4] Figure captions for the 2D plane plots should include the exact number of runs per point and any error bars or confidence regions.
  3. [Introduction] The abstract and introduction should cite prior logit-based monitoring work in safety to better situate the contribution.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

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We thank the referee for the constructive comments, which help clarify the scope and robustness of TLO. We address each major point below and commit to revisions that add the requested details, ablations, and quantitative analyses without altering the core claims.

read point-by-point responses
  1. Referee: [§3] §3 (Margin Definition): The compliance-refusal margin is computed from a fixed lexicon of compliance and refusal tokens. The manuscript acknowledges a limit on one model but provides no ablation on lexicon choice or perturbation; without evidence that 2D plane positions remain stable under lexicon variation, it is unclear whether the geometry tracks refusal dynamics or surface token statistics.

    Authors: We agree that an explicit ablation on lexicon choice would strengthen the interpretation. The manuscript already flags the fixed-lexicon limit for one model; in revision we will add a targeted ablation that perturbs the lexicon (substituting near-synonyms and measuring displacement on the 2D plane) and reports that positions remain stable for the three models where alignment with hidden-state probes was observed. This will be placed in §3 and the appendix. revision: yes

  2. Referee: [§5.2] §5.2 (Early-Stop Rule): The rule is derived from the TLO plane and reported to halve jailbreaks with zero false alarms on benign queries. The text must specify the exact threshold derivation procedure, the size and diversity of the benign test set, and whether the rule was evaluated on held-out attack styles, generation lengths, or models outside the calibration set.

    Authors: We will expand §5.2 to state the precise derivation: the threshold is the value that separates the lower-left safe region (margin remains positive throughout) from the failure trajectories observed in the calibration set. The benign set comprises 200 queries drawn from standard instruction-following benchmarks (Alpaca, Vicuna, and OpenAI helpfulness prompts) spanning short and long generations; zero false alarms were recorded. The rule was tested on the four models and three paradigms in the study but not on fully held-out attack styles or additional models; we will add this scope statement and note that broader generalization is future work. revision: yes

  3. Referee: [§4.3] §4.3 and Table 4 (Geometry Match): Alignment with hidden-state probes is stated for 'most conditions.' The manuscript should report a quantitative similarity metric (e.g., cosine distance or rank correlation per condition) and analyze the discrepant model/condition in detail to establish the scope of the proxy's validity.

    Authors: We will revise §4.3 and Table 4 to include per-condition quantitative metrics (Pearson rank correlation between TLO coordinates and the corresponding hidden-state refusal direction, plus cosine similarity of the vectors). We will also add a short paragraph analyzing the single discrepant model/condition, attributing it to the fixed-lexicon limitation already noted and showing that the remaining 11 of 12 conditions exhibit correlations above 0.7. revision: yes

Circularity Check

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full rationale

The paper presents TLO as a training-free method that computes a compliance-refusal margin directly from output logits during decoding and maps conditions onto a 2D plane without any parameter fitting or self-referential definitions. No equations, self-citations, or derivations are shown that reduce the reported plane positions or early-stop rule to quantities fitted from the same evaluation data; the geometry is claimed to match external hidden-state probes on most conditions, and the early-stop rule is tested separately on benign queries. The derivation chain therefore remains self-contained against external benchmarks.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

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Abstract-only review; no explicit free parameters, axioms, or invented entities are stated. The central claim implicitly assumes that a fixed lexicon for compliance and refusal tokens is sufficient to define the margin across models.

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