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Vanishing of Schubert Coefficients
T0 review · 1 major / 4 minor · reviewed 2026-08-11 · deepseek-v4-flash
Pith's one-line read The vanishing of Schubert coefficients is in coAM under GRH, placing it in the second level of the polynomial hierarchy, for the first time.
desk verdict First PH upper bound for Schubert vanishing via a clean reduction to parametric Nullstellensatz; the type D appendix is the soft spot and Table 2 needs fixing. read the letter →
The pith
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
The reading
What carries the argument
The central mechanism is the lifted formulation: a polynomial system with $O(n^2)$ equations and variables, with coefficients depending polynomially on parameters $y,z$, such that for generic parameter values the number of solutions over $\mathbb{C}$ equals the Schubert coefficient. For nonvanishing, the system has a solution over the function field $\mathbb{C}(y,z)$ exactly when the coefficient is positive. In type D the new machinery is the double-coset intersection criterion: $c^w_{u,v}(Y)>0$ iff $B^- \dot{u} B \cap \pi B^- \dot{v} B \cap \rho B^- \dot{w_0 w} B$ is nonempty for generic $\pi,\rho$, together with polynomial-size descriptions of generic group elements via Cayley transforms and of Borel subgroups via triangular matrix equations.
What would settle it
Find a concrete triple of permutations $u,v,w$ in type D for which the system $E^D(u,v,w)$ of Appendix C has a solution over $\mathbb{C}(y,z)$ but the Schubert coefficient $c^w_{u,v}(D)$ is zero, or vice versa. Because the system size is $O(n^2)$, this can be checked by explicit computation for small $n$, for instance $n=4$ or $n=5$, using exact arithmetic over function fields, and any mismatch would refute the main reduction for type D.
Extended reading notes
Core claim
The paper's central claim is that the vanishing problem $\{c^w_{u,v}=^? 0\}$ is in ${\sf coAM}$ under GRH. The proof works by reducing the nonvanishing problem to an instance of the Parametric Hilbert Nullstellensatz (HNP), a decision problem that was recently shown to be in ${\sf AM}$ under GRH. The reduction uses 'lifted formulations': polynomial systems whose number of solutions over the function field $\mathbb{C}(y,z)$ counts the Schubert coefficient, and whose existence of a solution characterizes nonvanishing. For types A, B, and C the lifted formulations come from Stiefel coordinates and bilinear incidence equations; for type D the paper supplies a new construction (jointly with David Speyer) based on double-coset intersections and Borel subgroup equations, which avoids the exponentially large determinant equation that blocked the earlier approach.
Load-bearing premise
The entire argument rests on the availability of polynomial-size lifted polynomial systems whose satisfiability exactly matches nonvanishing of the Schubert coefficient, and for type D this depends on the Appendix C claim (Equation C.1) that the double-coset intersection is nonempty for generic $\pi,\rho$ exactly when $c^w_{u,v}>0$, together with the Borel parametrization tables correctly encoding membership in the Borel subgroups of $SO_{2n}$.
Editorial extensions
If this is right
- Assuming GRH, SchubertVanishing is in coAM, hence inside $\Sigma_2^p$: the first polynomial-hierarchy upper bound for this problem. As a consequence, the vanishing problem cannot be NP-complete unless PH collapses to the second level.
- Since positive Schubert coefficients would be witnessed by an HNP solution when GRH holds, the paper identifies a structural obstacle to proving Conjecture 1.3 (Schubert not in $\#{\sf P}$) by showing the vanishing problem is not in PH.
- The result extends to the vanishing problem for generic $k$-fold intersections of Schubert varieties for every fixed $k$, as noted in the final remarks.
- In the BSS model over the complex numbers, the same lifted formulations place nonvanishing in ${\sf NP}_{\mathbb{C}}$ and Schubert coefficient computation in $\#{\sf P}_{\mathbb{C}}$ in all classical types.
- The type D construction (Appendix C) also gives a new uniform proof of the reduction for types A, B and C, replacing the earlier Stiefel-coordinate systems with double-coset equations.
Reading between the lines
- If the HNP-in-AM theorem were ever derandomized, the GRH assumption could likely be removed and the vanishing problem would probably land in NP or coNP, which would contradict the paper's Conjecture 1.5 but would strengthen the case that combinatorial witnesses exist.
- The double-coset construction in Appendix C suggests that other cohomological structure constants definable by generic intersections of Schubert varieties—not only the classical types—might admit polynomial-size lifted formulations, as long as the group and flag conditions can be encoded with polynomial-size equations.
- A natural testable extension is to apply the same lifted-formulation method to the vanishing of equivariant Schubert coefficients or to quiver coefficients, where the geometric counting interpretation is similar but the defining systems are not yet known to be polynomial-size.
- The paper's framework indicates that the difficulty in type D was not geometric but computational: the determinant $\det(\omega)=1$ condition is of exponential size, so any improvement must avoid explicitly encoding that equation; the new construction does so by working directly with double cosets and Borel subgroups.
Editorial analysis
A structured set of objections, weighed in public.
Referee Report
Summary. The paper studies the decision problem SchubertVanishing: given permutations u,v,w in the Weyl group of one of the classical types A,B,C,D, is the Schubert structure constant c^w_{u,v} equal to 0? The main theorem (Theorem 1.4) states that, assuming GRH, SchubertVanishing is in coAM, and hence in Sigma_2^p, for types A,B,C,D. The proof reduces the negation of SchubertVanishing to the Parametric Hilbert Nullstellensatz (HNP), which was recently shown to be in AM by Ait El Manssour et al. For types A,B,C the reduction is via explicit lifted formulations whose number of solutions over C(y,z) equals the corresponding Schubert coefficient (Propositions 5.2, 6.2, 6.3). For type D the paper relies on a new appendix (joint with Speyer) that constructs a uniform HN system for all classical types from the double-coset description of Schubert intersections. The paper also contains BSS-model results and a discussion of conjectures around #P-hardness of Schubert coefficients.
Significance. The main result, if correct, would be the first nontrivial upper bound in the polynomial hierarchy for the Schubert vanishing problem, a problem for which only PSPACE and C=P bounds were previously known. The construction is explicit and polynomial-sized, and it builds on the recent HNP result without circularity: the reduction uses Kleiman transversality, the Billey-Haiman relation, and external theorems, and does not assume the vanishing problem. The paper also makes the case that the vanishing problem is unlikely to be coNP-hard under standard derandomization assumptions. The main caveat is that the type D case depends on the Appendix C encoding of Borel subgroups; as printed, that encoding is incomplete, so the central claim as stated is not yet fully supported.
major comments (1)
- [Appendix C, Table 2 and C.4] In the rows for SO_{2n+1}, Sp_{2n}, and SO_{2n}, the set Eq(B) is printed as only the diagonal conditions b_{ii} b_{(2n+2-i)(2n+2-i)}=1 (plus a determinant condition in the odd orthogonal case). These conditions are necessary but not sufficient for B to lie in G: for example, for SO_4 with J=D_4, the upper-triangular matrix B=I+E_{12} satisfies all printed diagonal equations but violates B^T J B=J. Since the system E_Y(u,v,w) in C.4 is explicitly assembled from Eq(P_i) and Eq(Q_i) 'in Table 2', the satisfiability of E_Y as written is not equivalent to the non-emptiness of the double-coset intersection Xi in Equation (C.2). Therefore the 'if and only if' in the proof of Lemma C.1 is not established for types B, C, and D. The prose in C.3 says that B^T J B=J is imposed, but this matrix equation never appears in Table 2 or in C.4. The authors should either include the full matrix equation in E_Y (this adds O(n^2) equations, preserving the HNP reduction) or prove that the enlarged system has the same satisfiability over C(y,z). As printed, this is a load-bearing gap in the proof of Theorem 1.4 for type D.
minor comments (4)
- [Appendix C, Table 2, SO_{2n+1} row] The determinant condition is printed as 'bnn=1'; in the stated conventions this should be b_{n+1,n+1}=1, and the surrounding text 'det(B)=bnn' in C.3 has the same indexing issue. This typo, together with the missing matrix equations, suggests the table needs a careful rewrite.
- [Appendix A and Table 1, SO_{2n}] The parameter set for M is listed as {m_{ij}}_{i+j <= 2n+1} and the text says t=2n^2+n, but equation (A.2) forces the antidiagonal entries m_{i,2n+1-i} to vanish, so the dimension of so(2n) is n(2n-1)=2n^2-n. Please correct the parameter count or the index bound.
- [Abstract] The phrase 'whether c^w_{u,v} in #P' should be phrased as whether the function (u,v,w) |-> c^w_{u,v} is in #P, since a coefficient is an integer rather than a counting function.
- [Section 2.2(2)] The statement that Theorem 1.4 implies 'there are currently no other tools' to attack Conjecture 1.3 is too strong; the theorem rules out a particular route, not the existence of all possible tools.
Circularity Check
No circularity found: the coAM upper bound follows from an external HNP-in-AM theorem and explicit polynomial systems for nonvanishing.
full rationale
The claimed derivation chain is not circular. Schubert coefficients are expressed as generic intersections via Kleiman transversality (Eq. 4.3), and the paper then constructs polynomial systems whose number of solutions equals the corresponding Schubert coefficient (Propositions 5.2, 6.2, 6.3; Lemma C.1). Satisfiability of these systems is therefore equivalent to nonvanishing, and the final complexity bound is obtained by reducing to the parametric Hilbert Nullstellensatz result of Ait El Manssour et al. [A+24], whose authors do not overlap with the present paper. No fitted parameter is relabeled as a prediction, and no step reduces Schubert vanishing to a theorem of the present authors: the Billey–Haiman relation used for type B is an external result, and the self-citations to [PR24a], [PR24b], and [PR24c] are contextual rather than load-bearing. The printed Table 2 Borel equations in Appendix C may raise a correctness concern about whether they fully encode membership in the Borel subgroup for SO/Sp types, but that is an error-risk issue, not circularity; it does not make the conclusion equivalent to an input by construction.
Assumptions & free parameters
assumptions (6)
- domain assumption Generalized Riemann Hypothesis (GRH): nontrivial zeros of Dirichlet L-functions lie on the critical line.
- domain assumption Parametric Hilbert Nullstellensatz HNP is in AM assuming GRH (Ait El Manssour et al., Theorem 1).
- standard math Kleiman transversality: generically translated Schubert varieties intersect transversely and c^w_{u,v} counts points in the triple intersection.
- standard math Lifted formulation characterization of Schubert cells from Hein-Sottile (Proposition 5.1) and its analogues in types C and D.
- standard math Billey-Haiman relation c^w_{u,v}(B)=2^{s(w)-s(u)-s(v)} c^w_{u,v}(C).
- standard math Purbhoo's linear algebra criterion for nonvanishing of Schubert coefficients (Lemma B.7).
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Pith. "Pith review of Vanishing of Schubert Coefficients." pith.science (2026). https://pith.science/paper/WBDOMYCZ
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abstract
Schubert coefficients are nonnegative integers $c^w_{u,v}$ that arise in Algebraic Geometry and play a central role in Algebraic Combinatorics. It is a major open problem whether they have a combinatorial interpretation, i.e, whether $c^w_{u,v} \in \#{\sf P}$. We study the closely related vanishing problem of Schubert coefficients: $\{c^w_{u,v}=^? 0\}$. Until this work it was open whether this problem is in the polynomial hierarchy ${\sf PH}$. We prove that $\{c^w_{u,v}=^? 0\}$ in ${\sf coAM}$ assuming the GRH. In particular, the vanishing problem is in ${\Sigma_2^{{\text{p}}}}$. Our approach is based on constructions lifted formulations, which give polynomial systems of equations for the problem. The result follows from a reduction to Parametric Hilbert's Nullstellensatz, recently studied in arXiv:2408.13027. We extend our results to all classical types. Type $D$ is resolved in the appendix (joint with David Speyer).
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