Only Flat Spacetime is Full BPS in Four Dimensional N=3 and N=4 Supergravity
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Only flat spacetime is fully supersymmetric in N=3 and N=4 higher derivative supergravity
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Core claim
Flat spacetime is the only fully supersymmetric solution in the considered class of N=3 and N=4 Poincaré supergravity theories. These theories are obtained in the conformal supergravity framework using the standard Weyl multiplet and supersymmetric terms associated with the Weyl square. In the superconformal formalism, no other solutions, such as curved geometries, satisfy the conditions for full BPS preservation. N=2 theories in this class allow both flat spacetime and the Bertotti-Robinson AdS2 x S2 geometry.
What carries the argument
Superconformal formalism for determining fully supersymmetric solutions in higher derivative theories based on the Weyl multiplet
Load-bearing premise
The theories under consideration are those derived within conformal supergravity using the standard Weyl multiplet and including supersymmetric terms related to the Weyl square term
What would settle it
The existence of a non-flat, stationary or curved fully supersymmetric solution in one of these N=3 or N=4 higher derivative theories would falsify the claim that only flat spacetime works
read the original abstract
We investigate the fully supersymmetric solutions in a class of N=3 and N=4 higher derivative Poincar\'e supergravity theories. These class of theories are obtained within the framework of conformal supergravity using the standard Weyl multiplet and contains a set of terms related to the Weyl square term by supersymmetry. We work in the superconformal formalism and show that flat spacetime is the only fully supersymmetric solution in these theories. However, in N=2 Poincar\'e supergravity theories that falls into the same class, two fully supersymmetric stationary solutions exist: Bertotti-Robinson geometry ($AdS_2\times S^2$) and flat spacetime, which are known in the literature. We discuss the reason behind the richer vacua in N=2 supergravity compared to its N=3 and N=4 cousins.
Editorial analysis
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Referee Report
Summary. The manuscript investigates fully supersymmetric solutions in a class of N=3 and N=4 higher-derivative Poincaré supergravity theories constructed within conformal supergravity using the standard Weyl multiplet and supersymmetric completions of the Weyl-squared term. Working in the superconformal formalism, the authors impose the full set of Killing spinor equations and conclude that flat spacetime is the only solution compatible with all variations vanishing. They contrast this with N=2 theories in the same class, where both flat spacetime and the Bertotti-Robinson geometry (AdS₂ × S²) are known to exist, attributing the difference to the off-shell multiplet structure.
Significance. If the central derivation is correct, the result clarifies how the number of supercharges and the structure of the off-shell multiplets constrain the space of fully BPS backgrounds in higher-derivative supergravities. This distinction between N=2 and N≥3 cases is potentially useful for classifying supersymmetric vacua and for effective descriptions arising from string compactifications. The use of the superconformal formalism to derive algebraic constraints on curvature and auxiliary fields is a methodological strength.
major comments (1)
- [Section 3 (Killing spinor analysis)] The manuscript states that the additional supercharges in N=3 and N=4 impose stricter algebraic constraints than in N=2, but the explicit expansion of the Killing spinor variations (or the resulting conditions on the Weyl tensor and auxiliary fields) is not provided in sufficient detail to verify that only the flat solution survives. A concrete example of the constraint equations for at least one non-flat ansatz would strengthen the claim.
minor comments (2)
- [Abstract] The abstract summarizes the result without indicating the key technical step (imposition of the full Killing spinor equations in the superconformal frame); a single sentence on this point would improve readability.
- [Section 2 (Theory construction)] Notation for the supersymmetrized Weyl-squared invariants and their companions should be introduced with explicit reference to the relevant superconformal Lagrangian terms to avoid ambiguity when comparing N=2, N=3, and N=4 cases.
Simulated Author's Rebuttal
We thank the referee for their careful reading of the manuscript, their positive assessment of its significance, and their recommendation for minor revision. We address the major comment below.
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Referee: [Section 3 (Killing spinor analysis)] The manuscript states that the additional supercharges in N=3 and N=4 impose stricter algebraic constraints than in N=2, but the explicit expansion of the Killing spinor variations (or the resulting conditions on the Weyl tensor and auxiliary fields) is not provided in sufficient detail to verify that only the flat solution survives. A concrete example of the constraint equations for at least one non-flat ansatz would strengthen the claim.
Authors: We agree that additional explicit detail would improve verifiability. In the revised manuscript we will expand Section 3 to display the full set of Killing spinor variations for the N=3 and N=4 theories, derive the resulting algebraic constraints on the Weyl tensor and auxiliary fields, and include a concrete calculation showing that the Bertotti-Robinson ansatz violates at least one of these constraints once the extra supercharges are imposed (while remaining consistent in the N=2 truncation). revision: yes
Circularity Check
No significant circularity; derivation follows from Killing spinor constraints on defined class
full rationale
The paper constructs the class of N=3 and N=4 higher-derivative Poincaré theories by embedding into conformal supergravity with the standard Weyl multiplet and supersymmetrizing the Weyl-squared term plus companions. It then imposes the complete set of Killing spinor equations in the superconformal formalism. For N=3 and N=4 the extra supercharges produce stricter algebraic constraints on curvature and auxiliary fields than in N=2, forcing the only solution with all variations vanishing to be flat space. This step is independent of any fitted parameters, self-definitional loops, or load-bearing self-citations; the contrast with the known Bertotti-Robinson solution in N=2 is attributed to off-shell multiplet differences, which is an external structural fact. The derivation is therefore self-contained against the stated assumptions.
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axioms (2)
- domain assumption The higher derivative terms are related to the Weyl square term by supersymmetry
- domain assumption Fully supersymmetric solutions preserve all supercharges
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We work in the superconformal formalism and show that flat spacetime is the only fully supersymmetric solution in these theories.
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the only fully supersymmetric solution... flat spacetime
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