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This paper argues that circuit discovery in mechanistic interpretability is a statistical estimation problem, and that a state-of-the-art method, EAP-IG, outputs circuits with high variance under data resampling and high sensitivity to hype

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load-bearing objection Solid empirical stability audit of EAP-IG that is worth refereeing, but the abstract overclaims a base-layer instability that the experiments never directly measure. the 3 major comments →

arxiv 2510.00845 v4 pith:DLCEELPU submitted 2025-10-01 cs.LG cs.AIcs.CL

Mechanistic Interpretability as Statistical Estimation: A Variance Analysis

classification cs.LG cs.AIcs.CL
keywords mechanistic interpretabilitycircuit discoveryEAP-IGcausal mediation analysisbootstrap resamplingstatistical stabilityvariance analysisattribution patching
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The pith

A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.

The paper tries to establish that the circuits mined from a neural network by mechanistic interpretability methods are not fixed discoveries but statistical estimates, and that the widely used EAP-IG method produces estimates with substantial variance: resampling the input data changes the discovered graph, hyperparameter changes can push circuits far apart, and noise in the causal intervention degrades both fidelity and stability. A sympathetic reader should care because the field's promise depends on circuits being reproducible; if a single run can be an artifact of the data sample or pipeline choices, then claims about 'the circuit' for a task need revision. The paper decomposes the variance sources, quantifies them across three models and three tasks, and proposes routine reporting of stability metrics such as bootstrap pairwise Jaccard index and coefficient of variation of circuit error.

Core claim

The central claim is that the causal effect of a model component, measured by exact single-input causal mediation analysis, is a volatile random variable rather than a fixed property, and that circuit discovery pipelines inherit and amplify that variance. Concretely, the paper shows that EAP-IG — which approximates edge causal effects with integrated-gradient attributions and then greedily selects edges into a circuit — yields markedly different circuits when the discovery dataset is bootstrap-resampled (average pairwise Jaccard 0.561, coefficient of variation 0.335), that changing aggregation or intervention hyperparameters moves Jaccard similarity to a median circuit anywhere from 0.086 to

What carries the argument

The central object is EAP-IG (Edge Attribution Patching with Integrated Gradients), a method that assigns each edge of the computational graph a score approximating its causal effect — by combining gradient information with interpolated clean/corrupted inputs or activations — and then selects a circuit via greedy search that grows from 30 to up to 2000 edges until an input-to-output path exists. The paper's analytic machinery is the perturbation battery around it: bootstrap resampling, meta-distribution re-generation, prompt paraphrasing, hyperparameter sweeps, and noise injection in interventions, with pairwise Jaccard index and circuit error/CV as the stability metrics.

Load-bearing premise

The paper's strongest framing — that the causal effect of a component is a volatile random variable, not a fixed property — rests on an unmeasured assumption, since every experiment uses approximate EAP-IG scores combined with a greedy selection pipeline, and no experiment computes exact single-input CMA scores directly.

What would settle it

Compute exact single-input CMA scores (e.g., brute-force activation patching per token) on a small model and task, and measure their variance across inputs; if exact scores are stable while EAP-IG bootstrap Jaccard remains around 0.56, the base-layer instability claim fails and the variance is attributable to the approximation pipeline. Likewise, evaluate circuits on a held-out dataset disjoint from the discovery set: if circuit error drops and resample-to-resample Jaccard rises, part of the observed instability is discovery overfitting.

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If this is right

  • A single EAP-IG run on one dataset should not be interpreted as delivering the circuit; the result should be accompanied by bootstrap-based stability metrics (e.g., average pairwise Jaccard, CV of circuit error).
  • Circuits discovered under bootstrap resampling are not only structurally diverse but also less faithful (average circuit error 0.440), meaning unstable structure and degraded performance travel together.
  • Choice of EAP variant and hyperparameters can matter as much as the data: Jaccard-to-median ranges from 0.086 to 1.0 across configurations, so sensitivity analysis should accompany circuit reports.
  • Larger models (Llama-3.2-1B) yield less stable and less faithful circuits than gpt2-small, so stability results from small models may not extrapolate to the models of practical interest.
  • Noise injection in the intervention, at moderate amplitude (~0.2 in gpt2-small), is proposed as a practical robustness stress test that exposes structural variance without wrecking performance.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • If the paper's framing is right, the instability should show up in exact patching methods too, not just gradient approximations; a direct side-by-side comparison of exact single-input CMA variance with EAP-IG variance would tell whether the problem is fundamental or largely an artifact of approximation.
  • The multimodal Jaccard distributions under bootstrap suggest multiple discrete 'solution basins'; this connects to non-identifiability and motivates treating circuit discovery as distributional (ensembles over resamples) rather than point estimation.
  • Because the paper evaluates circuits on the same data used for discovery (Deval = D), a held-out evaluation is a natural next test: if instability drops sharply out of sample, part of the measured variance is discovery overfitting rather than intrinsic mechanism variance.
  • A practical extension is to add a stability term to the discovery objective, searching for circuits that are both faithful and stable across resamples; the authors gesture at this, but the concrete optimization target is left for future work.

Editorial analysis

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Referee Report

3 major / 6 minor

Summary. The paper proposes reframing mechanistic interpretability circuit discovery as a statistical estimation problem and empirically assesses the stability of EAP-IG circuits. Experiments across three models (gpt2-small, Llama-3.2-1B, Llama-3.2-1B-Instruct) and three tasks (IOI, subject-verb agreement, greater-than) measure structural overlap (pairwise Jaccard) and performance (circuit error, KL divergence) under bootstrap resampling, meta-distribution shifts, prompt paraphrasing, hyperparameter variation, and injected intervention noise. The main quantitative results are an average bootstrap pairwise Jaccard of 0.561 with CV 0.335 (Table 1), a hyperparameter-sensitivity Jaccard-to-median range of 0.086–1.0 (Table 2), and noise-driven degradation of fidelity and stability (Fig. 3). The paper concludes that EAP-IG circuits are sample- and setting-dependent and recommends routine reporting of stability metrics.

Significance. If the reported results stand, the paper offers a valuable, directly observed demonstration that EAP-IG circuits are not stable point estimates. These measurements are a useful contribution to current debates on the reliability of mechanistic interpretability, and the recommendation to report bootstrap-based Jaccard and CV metrics is concrete and actionable. The empirical numbers are transparently presented in the main tables. However, the paper's abstract overreaches by asserting a fundamental instability of 'exact, single-input CMA scores' that is never measured, and several methodological reporting gaps limit immediate confidence in the quantitative claims. With appropriate revisions, this could be a solid empirical contribution.

major comments (3)
  1. [Abstract (metadata) and §1] The abstract states that the paper 'uncovers a fundamental instability at this base layer: exact, single-input CMA scores exhibit high intrinsic variance, implying that the causal effect of a component is a volatile random variable rather than a fixed property.' This claim is not supported by any experiment in the manuscript. All experiments use EAP-IG or its approximate variants; no exact single-input CMA score is computed. The phrase 'causal effect of a component is a volatile random variable' is a strong theoretical assertion that is neither derived nor tested. Since this is presented as a central discovery, it is a load-bearing unsupported claim. The authors should either remove this claim from the abstract and frame the paper strictly as an EAP-IG stability analysis, or add experiments that directly measure variance of exact single-input CMA scores.
  2. [§3.3 and Tables 1, 3–5] The paper does not report the number of bootstrap resamples, seeds, or circuits generated per condition. The text says 'For each experimental run (iterated over seed values)' but never gives the number of runs. Table 1 reports average CV values such as 0.335 for bootstrap Jaccard, and the appendix tables report variances, but without sample sizes the reader cannot assess the precision of these estimates or whether differences between resampling strategies are statistically meaningful. The paper should report N for every condition and, ideally, bootstrap confidence intervals for the mean Jaccard and circuit error.
  3. [§5.1, Table 1] The interpretation that a bootstrap Jaccard of 0.561 with CV 0.335 is 'high variance' lacks a baseline. Jaccard values depend strongly on circuit size and the size of the edge space; a value of 0.561 could be close to random overlap for large circuits or far from it for small ones. To make the 'high variance' claim load-bearing, the paper should compare against a null model (e.g., expected Jaccard for randomly selected circuits of the same size) or against another circuit discovery method's stability. Without such calibration, the claim is underdetermined.
minor comments (6)
  1. [§3.2] The paper explicitly sets Deval = D, which is acknowledged in the text. This limitation should be more prominently discussed when interpreting circuit error values, since evaluating on the discovery data may underestimate error. The structural (Jaccard) claims are less affected, but the performance numbers should be framed carefully.
  2. [Table 6 (appendix)] Several Greater-Than entries for Llama-3.2-1B are marked as '-' but the text does not explain why the circuit was not found or the entry is missing. Please provide an explanation (e.g., 'no faithful circuit found under the greedy search procedure').
  3. [§5.3, Figure 3] The text says 'Table 3 shows the effect of increasing noise amplitude' but Table 3 contains bootstrap results, not noise results. The noise results appear in Table 9 in the appendix. The cross-reference is confusing and should be corrected.
  4. [Table 1 caption] Typo: 'Bootstrap resampling tields' should be 'yields'.
  5. [§1 (metadata abstract)] The metadata/arXiv abstract differs from the full-text abstract; the exact-CMA claim appears only in the metadata. The two versions should be made consistent, and the overclaim removed from the metadata if not supported.
  6. [§6] The paper mentions a 'publicly available codebase' but gives no URL or repository identifier. If code is available, please provide a link; if not, state availability.

Circularity Check

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No material circularity: the paper's central variance results are direct empirical measurements, not outputs of a derivation that presupposes them; the only self-citation is framing and not load-bearing.

full rationale

The paper is an empirical stability study of EAP-IG. Its headline quantities — bootstrap pairwise Jaccard 0.561 (CV 0.335), hyperparameter Jaccard-to-median values from 0.086 to 1.0, and noise-induced degradation — are reported measurements obtained by resampling data, varying hyperparameters, and perturbing interventions, not by fitting a parameter and then predicting a closely related quantity. No equation in the paper defines a predicted circuit property in terms of the same measured property; the formal setup (§3.1) merely describes the discovery pipeline, and the stability metrics (§3.2) are statistical summaries of observed circuits. The choice Deval = D is explicitly acknowledged as common practice and is a limitation for generalization claims, not a circular reduction. The main self-citation is Méloux et al. (2025), used to motivate non-identifiability and incompatible circuits. This is self-citational, but the paper's central variance findings do not depend on that prior result; they stand on the paper's own tables and figures. The abstract's claim about 'exact, single-input CMA scores' being unstable is not directly measured, but that is an overstatement/evidence gap rather than a circular derivation. Overall, the derivation chain is self-contained with respect to its empirical claims, so the circularity burden is minimal.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

2 free parameters · 5 axioms · 0 invented entities

The central claims rest on standard statistical tools (bootstrap, coefficient of variation, Jaccard similarity) applied to circuit discovery; the paper's own contributions are the measurements and the variance/robustness formalization rather than new entities or fitted derivations. Upstream inputs: EAP-IG method and datasets from Hanna et al. 2024, task generators from Wang et al. 2023 / Warstadt et al. 2020 / Hanna et al. 2023, and the non-identifiability framing from Méloux et al. 2025 (same first author). The only hand-chosen quantities that shape the headline numbers are the noise level 0.2 recommendation and the fixed greedy-search initialization n=30.

free parameters (2)
  • noise amplitude recommendation = 0.2
    §6 recommendation 3: 'A noise level of 0.2 seems to be a good starting point for gpt2-small' — chosen by hand from the tested grid [0.01, 0.02, 0.05, 0.1, 0.2, 0.5, 1, 2, 5]; it sits at the CV peak in Fig. 5, not at a principled optimum, and is extrapolated to general practice from two tasks on one model.
  • greedy search initial edge count n = n = 30, incremented up to 2000
    §3.1: 'We select an initial set of n edges based on the absolute values of their scores (starting with n=30), then incrementally increase n up to 2000 until a path from input to output is found.' Inherited from Hanna et al. 2024 and fixed across all runs, so every reported variance estimate is conditional on this selection setting.
axioms (5)
  • domain assumption Circuit discovery can be modeled as C = F_CD(Mθ, D, Λmethod), a composite of observations and a selection algorithm.
    §3.1 formalization; the entire variance/robustness decomposition presupposes this input-output model of circuit discovery.
  • domain assumption Bootstrap resampling of the discovery dataset estimates the sampling variance of discovered circuits.
    §3.3 invokes Efron & Tibshirani; standard statistics transferred to circuits. Requires datasets large enough for resampling to be meaningful — dataset sizes are never stated in the text.
  • domain assumption Circuit error evaluated with Deval = D is a valid faithfulness measure for comparing circuits.
    §3.2 explicitly sets Deval = D 'following common practice'; circuits are scored on the same sample they were found from, so errors (e.g., 0.44 under bootstrap) reflect fit to the discovery sample, not out-of-sample generalization.
  • ad hoc to paper Exact, single-input CMA scores exhibit high intrinsic variance.
    Abstract and §1 assert this 'fundamental instability at the base layer,' but the body's experiments only measure approximate EAP-IG scores on three tasks; no exact single-input CMA measurement or derivation is reported.
  • domain assumption The three tasks (IOI, SVA, Greater-Than) and three models are representative of MI circuit-discovery practice.
    §4 re-uses tasks and datasets from Hanna et al. 2024 (with generators from Wang et al. 2023, Warstadt et al. 2020, Hanna et al. 2023); conclusions about 'MI findings' generalize from this sample.

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Pith. "Pith review of Mechanistic Interpretability as Statistical Estimation: A Variance Analysis." pith.science (2026). https://pith.science/paper/DLCEELPU

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  author       = {Pith},
  title        = {Pith review of: Mechanistic Interpretability as Statistical Estimation: A Variance Analysis},
  year         = {2026},
  howpublished = {\url{https://pith.science/paper/DLCEELPU}},
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Mechanistic Interpretability (MI) aims to reverse-engineer model behaviors by identifying functional sub-networks. Yet, the scientific validity of these findings depends on their stability. In this work, we argue that circuit discovery is not a standalone task but a statistical estimation problem built upon causal mediation analysis (CMA). We uncover a fundamental instability at this base layer: exact, single-input CMA scores exhibit high intrinsic variance, implying that the causal effect of a component is a volatile random variable rather than a fixed property. We then demonstrate that circuit discovery pipelines inherit this variance and further amplify it. Fast approximation methods, such as Edge Attribution Patching and its successors, introduce additional estimation noise, while aggregating these noisy scores over datasets leads to fragile structural estimates. Consequently, small perturbations in input data or hyperparameters yield vastly different circuits. We systematically decompose these sources of variance and advocate for more rigorous MI practices, prioritizing statistical robustness and routine reporting of stability metrics.

Figures

Figures reproduced from arXiv: 2510.00845 by Fran\c{c}ois Portet, Maxime M\'eloux, Maxime Peyrard.

Figure 1
Figure 1. Figure 1: In gpt2-small, varying multiple circuit finding parameters at once (resampling strategy, aggregation method, [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p002_1.png] view at source ↗
Figure 2
Figure 2. Figure 2: Circuit error and pairwise Jaccard index of EAP-IG circuits found across the three models, tasks, and types of [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p006_2.png] view at source ↗
Figure 3
Figure 3. Figure 3: Average and standard deviation of the circuit error (left) and pairwise Jaccard (right) index of the circuits [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p008_3.png] view at source ↗
Figure 4
Figure 4. Figure 4: Full heatmap of the pairwise Jaccard index between circuits displayed in Figure 1 (circuits found in gpt2-small [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p014_4.png] view at source ↗
Figure 5
Figure 5. Figure 5: CV of circuit metrics for different noise amplitudes in gpt2-small, averaged across tasks. [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p016_5.png] view at source ↗

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